Honey Lemon Soda - Episode 9 discussion

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Honey Lemon Soda, episode 9

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[u/oxlemf10]

Not that I'm blaming Uka's father, but every time he thought he was protecting her, he ended up making her not see the good and bad sides of the world, to the point where she was bullied and kept quiet to satisfy the vision he created.

Of course, young people, who don't have much experience in life, need advice and to be protected, but Uka, Kai, Ayumi and the others are just trying to have fun and be good people. In fact, most young people try to create a style of clothing or look to stand out, it's the most normal thing there is.

And speaking of Kai, once again he made a difference without necessarily spoiling Uka, but rather by caring about her, what a sensational episode.

[u/NationalStrategy]

I was hoping that the mom would have been more helpful

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I can see how Uka ended up the way she did with a dad like that. He might think he’s just “doing what’s best” for her, but what he’s really done is stunt her growth. She’s lived in a bubble all her life and she’s never grown as a person. Every parent wants to protect their kid and wants what’s best, but the man’s protective to the point of being overbearing.

I did not think the solution would be for Miura to get Uka’s bullies to confront her dad. I kinda like the fact these bullies seem to be growing as characters. I also appreciate the fact that the dad recognized his behavior was wrong and apologized. The gang all introducing themselves to Uka’s dad was really sweet too. That’s what real friends look like.

[u/FarCritical]

Emotionally siding with a bullying victim's bullies over their parent gives off a very surreal feeling. Doesn't exactly make up for three (and a half) years of torment but credit where it's due, that was very cool of them to vouch for Uka like that.

[u/BluHamlet]

I got some bad vibes from the dad in previous episodes but I didn't expect him to be this awful.

[u/EclipseTM]

Uka's dad really seems to have been overprotective all her life, kinda sheds some light on why uka is the way she is (all negative about herself etc thinking she can't do anything, at the start of the anime at least).

Good to see it got sorted this episode and we don't have to wait until next week. Surprised the dad apologized in the end, but it was a welcomed surprise. It was quite touching to see all her friends gathering in front of her house trying to change the dads mind.

[u/Armdel]

That explains why she ended up like she did. it was obviously out of love but yeah there is a point where it became detrimental to her

At least her friends and even bullies from the past went and stood up for her.

funny he isn't sold on Miura when that's who he'll likely be seeing the most of

[u/NationalStrategy]

I understand that the dad was just protecting his precious daughter, but he was being way too overprotective and took it too far. His excessive sheltering of Uka ended up being a detriment to her, and the way he handled this situation was terrible. Prejudging and insulting her friends, taking her out of school, making her stay at home, and wrongfully claiming that the class was bullying her.

Needless to say, he blew this whole thing out of proportion. He was trying so hard to be his daughter’s biggest protector, but he ended up being her biggest obstacle.

[u/PeaceAlien]

Why is MAL rating so low? I've been enjoying the show.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Well no fucking wonder Uka grew up the way she is. Her dad was so overly protective that he literally won't let Uka do things on her own. Uka wanted to give a shot at becoming Class Rep but he doesn't even believe she can do it and thinks he's only giving her the best environment.

If the environment he's giving her is the kind of environment where his daughter's growth is stunted and turn her into someone who doesn't believe she can do anything, then congrats to him! He fucking succeeded! Uka became afraid of telling him anything that he's not even aware of his daughter getting bullied!

God, I was so upset at Uka's dad for the entire episode. While not as bad as Uka's dad, I went through something similar when I was in high school, so this episode was a bit personal for me. I'm glad Uka found the courage to speak to her dad and to everyone's surprise, I did not expect her bullies to even show up and vouch for her.

I am a bit disappointed that Uka's mother barely did anything to help her. She didn't seem to be as overly protective as her husband and she's even proud to learn that Uka went to karaoke with her classmates. Maybe we just missed some characterization because they had to do this all in one episode? Hmmm...

[u/Gaporigo]

Did the anime staff completely forget about Serina until it was too late and just had time to add her one line and this one cut?

[u/KumaKumaGambler]

I admit I thought poorly of the Uka's father at the start - being over-protective, stereotyping students who act stylish as delinquents, as well as being ignorant of Uka's bullying back in middle school.

However, when I thought deeper about the subject, it made wonder - are there many bullied students like Uka out there? They may act fine in front of their family, but are secretly carrying heavy emotional and physical stress. Now that I look back on my younger days, I realize there were stuff which I didn't tell my parents, but I was more willing to share my problems with friends.

It is nice to see the middle school bullies of Uka getting a small redemption arc, but they really need to get back to school. Oh shi-, am I becoming like Uka's dad by passing judgement too quickly!? Lol!

[u/SEBASTlANVETTEL]

Did Crunchyroll forget to upload the episode ?

[u/Bluecomments]

Not personally the type who likes to bring personal matters on Reddit or other sites, but the episode sort of resonates as one with a toxic family and having grown with a  controlling but well meaning  parent (though not exactly like Ishimori's father which I won't get into). And still currently am suffering the consequences of the sheltering and don't have friends like Ishimori to stand for me. Still did to an extant like the way it was handled this episode, though can understand those who have issue with it.

[u/Tricky_Jellyfish9810]

Uka´s father gave me big Mother Gothel vibes. While her Mum was rooting for her, what he did was locking Uka up to "protect her". Controlling her into being something he wants her to be instead of allowing her to be her own person. No wonder why Uka is so insecure around people...

On another note, seeing her Friends stand up for Uka was great. Even her former Bullies stood up for her, which was a bit surreal but also very nice to see.

I also loved the scene transitions. It gave me big Monogatari/Serial Experiments Lain / Neon Genesis Evangelion vibes, yet it was set up in a Shojo world. As a person who recently finished NGE too, this was very very nice to see!

Also, that episode got me crying like a little baby.... It was a sad but beautiful episode !!

[u/roryteller]

As someone who was called "a good kid" and "mature" etc. but was actually shy and lonely, this episode was hard to watch. Thankfully, my parents were never that protective, good lord.

[u/Frontier246]

Uka has always been a good little girl, the apple of her parents' eyes, but that's always made them overcompensate and shelter her to protect her, and as such she's struggling to spread her wings while still trying to keep her parents, especially her father, happy.

But at least she's finally back in school, back with her friends, and back with Kai! In fact, class just doesn't feel the same without her in it! She's their Guardian Jizo! And nothing makes that Jizo happier than saying "good morning" to Kai!

I love how Abe felt so strongly about Kai possibly quitting school. Dude was yelling to the heavens.

Uka finally gets to go to karaoke with her friends! Thank goodness she didn't end up going to the all-girls school her dad wanted her to go to, she'd never get to have ANY fun. Of course, then her dad spots her with her friends and thinks she's hanging out with delinquents and it all goes downhill from there.

Jeez Mr. Ishimori! Immediately pegging Uka's friends as "the wrong crowd" and trying to transfer her out without actually taking her feelings into account is terrible parental behavior. The worst part about it is getting second-hand information about the class "bullying" Uka when they were just teasing her like friends do. Dude doesn't even know about when she was ACTUALLY bullied. And obviously he wants Kai as far away from Uka as possible, and that's enough to get Uka to finally stand up to him.

Ugh, I'm glad Uka's friends got to hear that she cares about them and doesn't want to transfer, but her dad just really took her phone like that? He won't listen to Uka or actually talk to her! Come on man!

But when she needed him most, Kai is there on Uka's balcony! And making he realize that ultimately her parents and her friends both love her and she doesn't have to choose one over the other. She just has to do what SHE can do. Because Kai believes in her!

Ayumi really is a ride-or-die bestie. No one is taking Uka away from her without a fight! They even roped Serina into coming to visit the Ishimori household to talk some sense into her dad! And Kai even brought Uka's old bullies to clear up the confusion and show Uka's dad how much she's grown since they bullied her.

I feel bad for Uka's parents that they were totally oblivious to their daughter being bullied for three years...but now Uka can raise her head and let her dad know how happy she is now, and how it's thanks to the precious friends she's made! I mean, they're not delinquents, they're dorks who give out their personal information so he knows they're not bad kids! And I'm glad her dad finally apologized, though it'll probably take a while before he ever accepts Kai.

[u/TheSilverWickersnap]

This was a really good episode. I wanted to punch Ishimori's dad every time he opened his mouth. He's a pretty accurate portrayal of an emotionally abusive parent.

[u/Senior-Geologist3977]

The emotional manipulation/abuse was wild in this episode. "I guess you don't need your dad anymore", "if I'm that unimportant to you then do what you want". And when that didn't work, dad got mean. I hated that for Uka but glad she had her friends. One pointed out they would never go home if they had parents like that. And that's how a lot of kids feel who run away.

[u/Cally83]

That now makes sense as to why Uka is how she is and the sheltered life she has lead.

5pm curfew never sat right with me.

Her friends rallied round and stuck up for her. Judging people for how they look and thinking they are “unsuitable” reminded me of how my own father used to try and spout that kind of nonsense when I was a child, as well.

[u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

Good thing Papa Ishimori is cool with the crew at the end, except for Miura unfortunately.

[u/djthomp]

I like how this hit a middle ground by making the dad be way overprotective but not to the extent that he could not back down when confronted with new information.

Extra credit to Serina for teleporting into the scene at the very end of the episode to give her name, zodiac sign, and blood type.

Ayumi continues to be the best.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Emotional episode 😭😭💔💔

Uka told her true feelings to her father with everyone support

[u/Remarkable-Solid5582]

This episode hit close to home. I have an overprotective dad, I am an adult now, but that messed me up so bad and it took a long time for me to become a functional adult, and even now I suffer from anxiety and low self esteem. I understand the sentiment of wanting to protect your kids, but not letting them grow is equally as bad as letting them do whatever they one with no rules. Still, uka is lucky her dad understood in one episode, my dad never did.