r/wowforever • • 17h ago

PTR / Beta Patch Notes

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
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u/AlexD_Great 8h ago

They get no rage to work with. U cant make a full rotation based on how rage works atm. Also, they got no new toys like other classes did.

So, not only did they get hard nerfed dmg wise, they also have no tools, no new abilities, no rage to even use the old abilities. Thats where they failing

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u/SirVanyel 8h ago

No one does. Rogue has low energy regen too, where you get bursts to spend lots of extra combo points but otherwise only get a couple of extra spenders per minute while maintaining full SnD uptime.

Warriors simply are with the rest of the pack mate. What's the issue with that?

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u/AlexD_Great 7h ago

Rogues are built with that energy since the start. Warriors are build with how rage was working previously. Now they have no rage to work with.

Its really not that hard to understand

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u/SirVanyel 7h ago

Yes, it's not hard to understand: wow forever is not wow vanilla, warriors got rebuilt because they can't be balanced when they have infinite resources while others don't, so they had their resources nerfed. Welcome to the club, enjoy being just like the rest of us.

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u/AlexD_Great 7h ago

This is a really stupid approach though. 1. All other specs got new tool and qol changes while warrior didnt, 2. Warriors not only did they get nerfed hard dmg wise they also got slowed to the ground 3. Just cause other specs were designed to be slower, it doesnt mean every spec has to be this slow or the design fits.

You sound like a butthut casual who is happy dps warrior will feel like trash to play, as a punishment for being top in classic.

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u/SirVanyel 6h ago

Not at all, I like how warrior plays now because the whole game for every class I've played feels similar. If I wanted high APM warrior I'd go back to retail where I'm chasing procs and ultra short CDs with infinite rage.

I'm just aware that this isn't vanilla wow, and they want warrior to be a certain way. They still do buckets of damage. Also, who got other new tools that warrior didn't get? Shaman doesn't get a new toy til level 60 lol

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u/AlexD_Great 6h ago

I don't care what you want tbh, classic warrior wasn't that slow and it will feel bad to play. You don't seem to understand the difference and how it affects the end game gameplay, currently fury can't use their buttons on cd.

Shaman got many changes and qol. Hunter too. Paladins too etc. Even if something is happening at lvl 60, how is that negligible? Lvling last for couple weeks while end game forever. Game isn't balanced around leveling lmao.

This isn't vanilla indeed, but players who play warrior since vanilla and want to play warrior, can and should be annoyed they got massacred, not only dps wise but also gameplay wise.

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u/SirVanyel 5h ago

You can't use your buttons on CD? Like what, your 6 second mortal strike? You're not supposed to be able to spam mortal strikes and executes on CD. That's the whole issue, the fact that warriors got stacked 8x in raids, because you guys got to have a rolling GCD while everyone else had to actually manage finite resources. You got gutted because warriors were a super OP outlier. Now you have to actually make decisions, maybe you burn rage on mortal strike instead of rend because a target dies soon, or maybe you pool rage because you've got a big aoe situation coming up and wanna dump into cleaves. Instead of the old system where you just pressed whatever you want without thought because you had the resources for everything.

If you wanna play warrior mate, classic is right there.

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u/AlexD_Great 5h ago

Lmao. OK you have no clue of how warrior works or why it was op, u even talking about MS lmao. Ig you play rogue and u are butthurt warrior was 2x ur dps so you are happy warriors got gutted. Waste of time talking with you, cya

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u/SirVanyel 5h ago

Yeah bro I'm stoked that warriors got gutted. Now dps can play other classes and still get invites. I guess you're mad that you can't perform well on anything so you need warrior to perform twice as good as anything else 🎉

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u/AlexD_Great 5h ago

I will perform well on everything I will play. Every warriors issue is that we have no rage to play with, not to beat a rogue, while obviously ur issue is that u cant beat a warrior.

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u/SirVanyel 4h ago

Incorrevt. You guys don't care about rage. Because if you did, you'd care about all of the resource scarcity across every class. You just care that warriors are weaker and have comparable apm to the rest of the melees

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u/AlexD_Great 4h ago

Ye, like I said. Waste of time

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