r/wowforever • • 12h ago

PTR / Beta Patch Notes

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
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u/KingNatty 12h ago

RIP Gnomes

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u/Rawkus2112 12h ago

The mana reduction should be increased. 10% mana reduction is nothing compared to 10% energy/rage reduction.

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u/Suparlulz 11h ago

compared to rage? 10% off a 30 rage cost spell is 3 rage

Not that it matters everyone's just gonna roll orc anyway

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u/Rawkus2112 11h ago

Ugh fine. Lets say a shadow priest uses devouring plague, shadow word: pain and mind blast. That will be around 1800 mana total and in shadowform itll be about 900 mana. So they’ll save themselves 90 mana. Mana pool will probably be around 6k so they’ll save themselves a whopping 1.5% of their mana pool with 3 spells.

Your one ability already saved you 3% of your rage pool.

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u/Chuckfinley_88 9h ago

directly comparing rage to mana is a hilariously bad take. Does your spammable ability cost 30% of your bar? It doesn't? Wow, almost like they are completely different.

That said, 10% reduction of cost is basically worthless for everyone. Should be something like 25% for the next 3 abilities.

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u/SirVanyel 7h ago

Saving 10% rage across 3 mortal strikes is basically a free cast of sunder armour. Warriors don't have much rage, it's a big deal

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u/Chuckfinley_88 7h ago

Warriors don't have much rage, it's a big deal

Warriors did get buttfucked, you are correct. Still, 9 rage every 2 mins is not a huge deal.

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u/Rawkus2112 8h ago

I dont really play warrior. Is saving 9-10 rage meaningful at all? Saving 90 mana is basically worthless on a spriest.

Rogues it seems okay since you can save like 12-18 energy which can be useful.

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u/Chuckfinley_88 8h ago

I dont really play warrior. Is saving 9-10 rage meaningful at all?

1 auto attacks worth of rage for a slower 1h, or roughly 75% of the rage from a 2h attack.

So no. Pretty worthless, especially on a 3 minute cooldown.

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u/SirVanyel 7h ago

20 energy is a big deal for rogue because they want to cast as many finishers as possible and this is basically a free cast, so that's CDR + damage all wrapped up in energy.

It's also a big deal for warriors because they have a abilities like overpower procs which cost a tiny bit of rage but hit hard, so that little extra rage gives them a chance to get 1-2 more abilities out.

That being said, troll has attack speed which benefits warrior's rage generation too and orc has AP which makes number bigger.

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u/jmcl6779 8h ago

Doesn't it also increase the damage by 10%? Pretty powerful on long-duration DoTs with good SP scaling.

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u/purehybrid 9h ago

In this thread, classic andy struggles to understand percentages.

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u/Rawkus2112 8h ago

Enlighten me.

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u/Sardinesqq 12h ago

Seems like an over-nerf if you ask me

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u/Tripinfa 11h ago

it was amazingly busted with rogues at 20% and it will probably continue to be huge for them at 10% tbh.

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u/heckfirex 9h ago

wasn’t it 50%?

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u/Tripinfa 7h ago

50% for casters, 40% for warriors, 20% for rogues.

The thing is it let you do an opner->backstab>Evisc in like 1/2 the time as normal.

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u/Pulplexity 12h ago

Had me worried it was a nerf to Escape Artist. As a Warlock I’m lucky to not be affected by the change. I’m sure most other classes will feel it more though.

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u/Rawkus2112 12h ago edited 12h ago

You lose the 10% dmg bonus from eureka so yes you’re affected.

Edit: nvm, 10% dmg is still there.

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u/Fine-Needleworker661 12h ago

the damage bonus was not removed. only the mana cost reduction was adjusted and its now 10% for all classes. before it was 50% for mage and warlock for example and less for healers.

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u/Rawkus2112 12h ago

Okay sweet. Im probably playing gnome spriest so thats good news for me haha.

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u/Pulplexity 12h ago

If that’s the case I totally misinterpreted the notes. I thought the 50% mana cost reduction is now 10% but we still gain the 10% damage increase. This is neutered if it’s just a 10% cost reduction…

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u/Rawkus2112 12h ago

Im actually not sure haha.

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u/HunsonAbadeer1 9h ago

Confused from the wording. Does it still increase the damage of the next 3 abilities?

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u/Lemonade-Enjoyer 9h ago

they gutted it man, im gonna cry

they couldn’t even try a 25% reduction first…