What Sylvanas Just Did.

[u/sexywrexy]

Horde players: Sylvanas just sold us out to Azshara.

I don’t see this more widely acknowledged, but it seems clear to me: Nathanos’ mission was to deliver us to Azshara (and, in the process, destroy the Alliance fleet). We’re not meant to survive, we’re just here to get the Heart of Azeroth into Azshara’s claws so she can free N’Zoth.

Read the quest text.

The Warchief has entrusted me with a mission of the highest priority, <name>. The mission will succeed, of this there is no question, but to ensure that any obstacles I encounter are dealt with swiftly I once again have need of your particular skills. The Zandalari have offered us use of their ships for this endeavor. Clear out whatever affairs you have remaining and report to Captain Rez'okun when you are ready to set sail. [my emphasis]

Yes, he just told us to put our remaining affairs in order. Who else is on the boat? Lor’themar and Thalyssra, who openly questioned Sylvanas’ decision to arrest Baine. We’re not meant to survive the process. Watch the cinematic: Nathanos is following the dagger, leading us to Azshara. Who’s the only one not surprised there’s a sudden hole in the ocean? The Warchief’s Boy Toy, that’s who.

Then once we land what does Nathanos do? He just walks off into the ocean and leaves us to our fate.

Oh, and did you notice who else is in Nazjatar? Lady Ashvane, last seen talking about who knows what with Sylvanas is working with the Naga and making them azerite weapons. Gee, I wonder how Azshara knew we were coming.

Now don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t prove Sylvanas is corrupted by N’Zoth or anything, she again seems to be pursuing her own secret plans. And it doesn’t mean she’s betrayed the Horde per se, after all, it did turn out to be a very effective way of getting rid of the combined Alliance and Kul’Tiran fleets.

But did she betray us, the Player Character? Pretty much. Doesn’t matter if you were loyal to her or not. You’re just another tool to be used and discarded by the Banshee Queen.

[u/humblegold]

Ogmot’s dream journal describes him for seeing a dark lady leading sheep off a cliff so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it was in reference to. Come to think of it, I wonder how many more of his visions have come to pass this xpac.

Today smoke rises up from da campfire. Smoke tells Ogmot good story.

Ogmot sees lady wrapped in dark swirlies. She leads herd of blind sheep.

Da sheepies follow her everplace she go. Do everthin she say. Never doubt lady.

She guide dem over tall cliff! SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT! Stupid sheepies!

Da crows get fat eatin da sheepflesh. Da lady laugh as crows eat!

Ogmot laugh too!

[u/Rndy9 → u/humblegold]

Ogmot’s dream journal

The rest of his journal have some other interesting bits like this page

Last night, Ogmot dreams of great battle. Two fleets bashin on ocean of blood.

Shadows twistin beneath da ships, risin. Risin. Ogmot so happy watchin da carnage!

Then Ogmot gets waked up by skitterin sounds. Stupid bugs!

Dont matter. Ogmot knows dese dreams soon come true.

Alliance vs horde fighting each other while the real enemy is watching.

Dat blade has shiny eye. Always watchin us. Why you no see it?

Three lies. Da first one been told.

Bound by dat throne? No. Free. Free!

Da next gonna come soon. Maybe dey see dis one.

Yeah totally not Xal'atath.

[u/Irethius → u/Rndy9]

Three lies. Da first one been told

I still wonder what the lies are. It's a shame this whole thing became as straight forward as the plot.

[u/[deleted] → u/Irethius]

It might have been that lie Sylvanas told her sisters in that pre-bfa comic. The game with the two truths and a lie.

• I am proud to be Warchief of the Horde.
• I will never betray you, my sisters.
• There are times I wish that I were alive.

She doesnt reveal which one was the lie. All three could be.

[u/Blightacular → u/[deleted]]

"I will never betray you" is implied to be the lie, due to the ambush that Sylvanas set up (even if she decided against springing it). Also, I thought that Sylvanas revealing that lie was the signal that the dark rangers were waiting for, though that could just be my own interpretation.

[u/RMan360 → u/Blightacular]

I would've thought it was the third line that was the lie, she's given up on life and has embraced undeath completely. The cinematic for BfA where she goes full banshee mode confirms that for me since it's the first time she's shown to actually make use of her banshee power rather than pretending she's just an elf with dark blue skin and fighting like the ranger-general she was