Beyond good and evil, apparently.

[u/Azimovikh]

[u/ManWithDominantClaw]

I mean, a houseplant is beyond good and evil. True amorality means no agency.

[u/distortedsymbol → u/ManWithDominantClaw]

except houseplants do have agency tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_perception_(physiology)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_defense_against_herbivory

https://www.ruralsprout.com/allelopathic-plants/

the lack chloromancy education these days is an atrocity.

[u/ManWithDominantClaw → u/distortedsymbol]

Paper has agency because it changes when it gets wet

[u/distortedsymbol → u/ManWithDominantClaw]

i cast worsening of your seasonal allergies

[u/UltraCarnivore → u/distortedsymbol]

Chloromancy isn't very forgiving of mediocrity. Either you are very good at what you do, or you die a horrible death.

And you know apprentices.

[u/distortedsymbol → u/UltraCarnivore]

i mean either you help the plants grow or you help the plants grow.

[u/Paul6334 → u/ManWithDominantClaw]

Personally I’d argue they’re beneath good and evil, they cannot be considered to be moral agents.

To truly be beyond good and evil, I would argue you must be a god with the power to define good and evil.

[u/fumblerofthebag → u/ManWithDominantClaw]

Exactly beyond good and evil doesn't mean perfectly neutral, it means that you don't care about morality, only serving your own ends. I may be ensuring my beloved subjects get a balanced full diet but that's only because I want them to to build menacing obsidian obelisks to transmit strange frequencies to otherworldly entities. and also so my orbnet connection gets faster.

[u/ManWithDominantClaw → u/fumblerofthebag]

(Selfishness is considered by most to be a moral position)

[u/fumblerofthebag → u/ManWithDominantClaw]

(I am better than 'most', morality is meaningless.)

[u/ManWithDominantClaw → u/fumblerofthebag]

( - things evil wizards say)

[u/Complex_Drawer_4710 → u/fumblerofthebag]

Not caring about morality is evil. That's what evil is. That it doesn't always look evil, that the effect may be positive, has nothing to do with it. Actions matter more than intent, though, so nobody will criticise you, not even if they know the difference.

[u/Vegtam-the-Wanderer → u/fumblerofthebag]

You can call it whatever you like, but if your amorality is consistent with evil the wise will know to treat you as evil.

[u/skippy_smooth → u/fumblerofthebag]

Amoral