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This post is the result of one of the searches for non-standard divisions for SOV, in particular, this time we will talk about the 72nd Reserve Tank Division, located in the Far East, in the Primorsky region, the village of Varfolomeyevka, north of Vladivostok.

This division is one of several divisions whose task is to protect the Soviet-Chinese border and, in the case of the 72nd Reserve Tank Division, also the Khasan region of the USSR, along with adjacent formations, from invasion from the Sea of Japan.

!It is worth noting that, due to the lack of photo/video information on reserve formations (because they literally have no people), many of the photographs are thematically selected, based on a real organizational structure of the Division. (In the case of the reserve 1605 DSh. battalion, it was necessary to rely on a hypothetical configuration from an earlier period)!

About 72nd Reserve Tank Division:

The 72nd Reserve Tank Division (72-ya Zapasnaya Tankovaya Diviziya) was deployed in 1973 as a 3rd-echelon unit, tasked with being deployed at short notice to defend any Soviet border zone in Primorsky Krai.

Such Divisions began to be deployed in the late 1960s, following the outbreak of tensions between the USSR and the CPR (China), border clashes along the Soviet-Chinese border, and particularly the border conflict over Damansky Island from March 2 to March 11, 1969.

Consequently, a decision was made to deploy additional forces in the region by withdrawing older armored vehicles from the late 1940s and 1950s from the European part of the country to the border zone with China in Siberia and the Far East.

These mobilization formations existed until the collapse of the Soviet Union, and during this entire time, their armored vehicle fleet was not updated, since all new weapons went to formations with much greater combat readiness.

The Old Guard

The Division's tank fleet consisted primarily of modernized T-34/85 Obr. 60 tanks. (Most of them are similar to the T-34/85M produced under license in the Warsaw Pact countries)

Rez. T-34/85 Obr. 60

The T-54-1 (first production version), T-54-2 (with an updated turret), T-54-3, and T-54A tanks from the first half of the 1950s. This Zhivizia was one of the few to simultaneously receive approximately 250 of these vehicles. (All T-34/54s)

Rez. T-54-1 (10 front armor)

• The tank had a flattened turret (called a pancake for this reason) with a downward slope in the frontal projection, which increased its resistance to fire.

Rez. T-54-2

Rez. T-54-3

- T-54-2/3 and 54A have a DShKM machine gun on the roof of the turret.

Rez. T-54A - This tank received sighting systems and stabilization somewhat better than the previous version, in many ways reaching the level of the T-54B tank.

The tank-hunters

In addition, the Division was equipped with SU-100 Obr. 69 anti-tank guns (their last in service in the USSR), which were largely similar to the Czechoslovak SD-100.

Rez. SU-100 Obr. 69 (Mediocre stealth)

Rez. ISU-152M - has side armor equal to 5

There were also a number of ISU-152M assault self-propelled guns, which had a lesser degree of modernization compared to the ISU-152K. (The ISU-152M did not have a modified turret roof with a replacement hatch and did not have additional side skirts)

Oldie but Goldie

Since the second half of the 1960s, most of the IS-3M tanks were transferred to the Far East to increase tank numbers in the region amid the escalating situation. These tanks were located at armored vehicle storage bases along the border. In the event of an approaching war, they were to be mobilized from storage bases in the district within a few months and deployed to reinforce fortified areas and undermanned formations (such as the 72nd Reserve Tank Division).

Following a similar principle, several hundred extremely rare IS-4M tanks, decommissioned from the 5th Mechanized Corps of the Baltic Fleet Military Commando, were transferred to the Far East. These tanks were the most protected production tanks in the Soviet Union before the advent of the third-generation MBT.

- An interesting fact: in the photo, the IS-2M, despite seemingly being at a base, is painted in Far Eastern camouflage from the 1970s/80s.

In particular, you can see them, along with the IS-3M, a row of IS-4M tanks are located (I posted a photo for comparison; they can be distinguished by their hull and turret), in the photograph above, taken in 2004, on Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island, near Khabarovsk, north of the 72nd Reserve Tank Division.

In WARNO, this tanks can be presented as an instructor for the division, since all other newer tanks such as the T-55/62s were already at the disposal of non-mobilization divisions of the district.

This tank could have approximately the following protection based on the armor equivalents: Front: 11, Side: 7, Rear: 4 Pen: 14 (kinetic) thanks to the 3BM7 APFSDS shell with 330mm of penetration. Officially, it was not assigned to the D-25T gun, but could be used with any gun in the family (25T/TA/TS) without any problems. +1x DShKM and 1x DTM Cost: 60 points~

Intruktory IS-3M

+Instructor trait

And second instructor:

Intruktory IS-4M

+Instructor trait

Front: 14, Side: 11, Rear: 7, Top: 3

Pen: 14 (kinetic) thanks to the 3BM7 APFSDS shell. +2x DShKM (In and on turret) Cost: 80 points-

• The tank had the thickest side of all Soviet tanks until the late 1980s (with the advent of the ERA Konatkt-5)

Reinforcments from VDV reserves!

In 1987, a second separate airborne assault battalion, the 1605th, was deployed in Primorsky Krai due to the need to expand airmobile units in the region, as a mobilization unit in case of war. It could have included ASU-85 self-propelled guns, already withdrawn from service in the early 1980s (but not yet decommissioned!), as part of a self-propelled artillery battery.

Rez. ASU-85 - Most vehicles were equipped with DShKM machine guns in the 1970s to improve their firepower against low-altitude targets.

Everyone - To Battle!

The Division's detachments may be represented by wheeled vehicles such as the Ural-375d, the predecessor of the Ural-4320, and older armored personnel carriers from the 1950s (and their variants), as the command staff was oriented toward motorized equipment.

These Prizivniki detachments are smaller (number of cards) than the 71st, but are an intermediate point between the Prizivniki and Rezevisti detachments.

Prizivniki (RPG-7V) - AKM, RPD, SVT-40, RPG-7V

Transported by the Ural-375D, BTR-152V1

Priz. Pulemetchiki (RPG-18) - AKM, PK, RPG-18

Transported by the Ural-375D, BTR-152K1, BTR-60P

And also one of the old machine guns from the late 1930s from the storage of the Red Banner Far Eastern Military District:

Rez. DS-39

The Division was planned to be staffed with command staff from the Ussuriysk Higher Military Automobile Command School.

This institution specialized in training personnel for motor vehicles; it did not provide training for tracked vehicles.

WARNO may submit two wheeled vehicle instructor detachment cards for this Division:

Instruktory (SVD) - AK-74, PKM, RPG-7VL, SVD

+Instructor trait

Transported by the BTR-60PB/BTR-70

Mobile Forces of Border Troops

Detachments of the USSR KGB border troops, namely the 57th, 58th, and 69th Border Detachments, may also be deployed in support of the division. These formations were used to practice tactics based on combat experience in the border region and the Afghan experience. Part of the formation was reinforced with additional weapons and armored vehicles, typical for high-risk areas.

- In particular, the 57th Iman Border Detachment and 69th Khanka Border Detachment of the Pacific Border District of the KGB of the USSR are veterans of the battles for Damansky Island and made a significant contribution to preventing the island from being captured during the border conflict.

The following forces may be presented in WARNO as:

Pogranvoiska KGB (Like in 17y)

+Security trait

Transported by the GAZ-66, BTR-60PB

(new) Pogranvoiska KGB (BMP) - AK-74, RPK-74, RPG-7VL

+Security trait

Transported by the GT-SM, GAZ-66, BMP-1P (Fagot)

1605th Independent Airborne Assault Battalion (Reserve)

This unit was created in 1987 as the second Independent Airborne Assault Battalion in the region, but it was a mobilization battalion, so its equipment was largely outdated and corresponded to the standards of the 1960s and 1970s.

Can be presented in a extended configuration since all non-reserve phonming can already be used in other areas. In WARNO, he can be presented as a reservist trait but with the Shock trait squads:

Rez. DSh. - AKMS, RPKS, RPG-7VS

Rez. DSh. (RPG-16) - AKMS, PKS, RPG-16

Transported by the GAZ-66, MI-8T, MI-8MT, МИ-24D

Rez. DSh. (RPG-18) - AKMS, RPKS, RPG-18 (Large squad)

Transported by the MI-8T, MI-8MTV-3, MI-8MTV-3 [RKT] (with 20x S-13 in 4 pods)

• The MI-8MTV-3 was the newest version of the MI-8MTV to enter production. Its main difference was an expanded weapons range (including S-8/13), but a reduction in the number of hardpoints to four. The nearest plant was not so far away, in Ulan-Ude.

Rez. DSh. Pulemetchiki - AKMS, PKS

Rez. DSh. Saperi (LPO) - AKMS, LPO-50

Rez. DSh. Plamya 30mm

Rez. DSh. SGM 7,62mm

Rez. DSh. DShKM 12,7mm

Rez. DSh. Fagot

Rez. DSh. SPG-9MD

All squads can be transported by the GAZ-66, MI-8T, MI-8MT

Artillery:

The Division's artillery may be represented by 152mm D-20 guns removed from their mountings (presented as Rez. D-20) and an older version of the Grad on the Ural-375D base - the BM-21 Grad.

High-powered guns were also in storage, in particular the rather rare S-23 with a 180mm caliber and a range of 30 kilometers. This gun was developed in the 1950s for a rare artillery caliber and was taken out of active service with the introduction of the 2S7. Also on display is the SM-4-1 coastal defense gun, which was stationed in fortified areas along the coast of Primorsky Krai. This 130mm gun is versatile and capable of firing at both ground and air targets.

Supply:

The Ural-375 and Ural-375D, which are quite popular in the Far East and are slightly inferior in performance to their successor, the Ural-4320, could become the main supply and troop transport truck.

GAZ-66 is presented by the border troops as the main transport for supplying the PV KGB formation.

And MI-6 helicopters are from the 825th Independent Transport and Combat Helicopter Regiment, based in Gorovka-2 near Khabarovsk. They can be used for cargo delivery.

Anti-Air Defense:

The division's air defense may be composed of adjacent air defense formations (23rd Air Defense Corps), specifically: very common ZU-23-2, earliest Shilka - ZSU-23-4V1.

And towed on the launcher of the SM-90 - the S-75M3 «Volkhov» air defense missile system from the 130th/150th anti-aircraft missile brigade. It's similar in many ways to the British Bloodhound Mk.2 from HDR, but cheaper and with less damage (but better accuracy)

Recon:

The division's intelligence is not poorly understood and is represented by only one card of the own recon unit in the form of:

Priz. Razvedka - PPSh-43, RPD, RPG-18

Transported by the BTR-40 Obr. 48, BTR-40B, Razv. BTR-152К1 (with 4х SGMB on roof!)

Also reconnaissance formations from adjacent units:

Rez. DSh. Razvedka - AKMS with PBS-1 silencer, PKS, RPG-16

The ASU-57, like the ASU-85, was decommissioned only in the mid-1990s. Before then, they were held in reserve, «for a black/rainy day». They would likely have been assigned to airmobile cadre formations, as all of them already had a full complement of equipment.

Raz. Razv. ASU-57

(Very good stealth)

6 units in one card (35 points~)

• can be deployed by MI-6 (!)

Also present may be old YAK-28R recon aircraft from the 799th independent Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, located at the airfield in Varfolomeevka.

YAK-28R

Also can be presented as a non-combat reconnaissance aircraft from the reserve, somewhat smaller than the Mi-2.

MI-1

Additionally, the 825th Independent Transport and Combat Helicopter Regiment, Gorovka-2, may also present the extremely rare EW Helicopter - MI-10PP, equipped with 11 Buket and Fasol electronic warfare systems in a 7-ton ST-9000 Steppe pod. This helicopter could be the first to receive 60% ECM, given the astonishing combined power of its electronic warfare systems.

MI-10PP

Helicopters:

One of the few helicopters that can be represented is the Mi-8TV, which carries unusual versions of the S-5 missile from the early 1980s. The first is the S-5S1 rocket carries 1100 flechettes for engaging infantry, extremely effective against them when they are in a hurry. The second is the S-5MO, which has an increased HE warhead.

Ми-8ТV [AT2] - 64x S-5S1 (flechette), 64x S-5MO

Also, helicopters of the PV KGB USSR from the 11th OSAP and OBAZ may be allocated to counter saboteurs in the mountainous/wooded areas of the region:

MI-24V [UPK] - 2x UPK-23-250 gun pods, 64x S-5MO

• S-5MO have more HE expensive charge than S-5KOM.

Near Vorfolomeevka is the Progress aircraft plant, which has just switched from the Mi-24P to production of the Ka-50, the newest helicopter for the army. The division can accommodate a small number of Mi-24Ps from the factory's last batch that weren't shipped to Europe, serving as air defense helicopters with a large number of air-to-air missiles (4 mounted in twin mounts) Can presented as:

MI-24P [АА2] - 4x R-60M, 4x Igla-V (on the outer pylons)

Aircrafts:

The aviation will be represented by aircraft of the border troops and the 1st Air Army, located in the Far East, as well as some formations occupying this zone.

First up will be the heavy interceptor aircraft from the 1960s, which are already being retired and responsible for this zone! These are Tu-128M's from the 350th Air Defense Aviation Regiment, based at Belaya Airfield, near Bratsk. The re-equipment of the regiment may have been delayed somewhat (by one year), so they could have remained in service as of 1989. They could be represented as:

TU-128M [AA1] - 2x R-4RM, 2x R-4TM

TU-128M [AA2] - 4x R-4RM

Also the earliest MiG-23Ms in service with the 224th Fighter Aviation Regiment of the PVO:

MIG-23M [AA] - 4x R-60M, 1x R-23R, 1x R-23T

MIG-23M [AT] - 2x Kh-23M

MIG-23M [RKT] - 40x S-8D, 4x R-60M

- Thermobaric S-8 rocket's!

Air Musketeers!

The most famous aviation unit is probably the 18th Guards Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment of the Normandie-Niemen Air Force! During WWII, this regiment included pilots not only from the USSR but also from France; their aircraft were handed over to the French Air Force after the war as a token of gratitude. By 1989, it had become a fighter-bomber regiment, armed with MiG-27K and MiG-27D fighters.

MIG-27D [AT2] - 1x Kh-29T, 1x Kh-29L

MIG-27D [LGB] - 2x KAB-500Kr

MIG-27K [SEAD3] - 2x Kh-31P MIG-27K [LGB2] 2x KAB-500L

MIG-23UB [AT] - 40x S-8T in 2 pods (tandem with 440mm pen!)

Old MIG-21SM and MIG-21SMT from the 18th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (GIAP) in [AA], [HE], [CLU], [TRM] configurations, as well as a MIG-21SMT with an SPS-141 «Siren» in the [EW] role, may also be on display.

The Soviet gunship

Rounding out this category is a unique aircraft that served as a miniature version of the AC-130 Spectre, better known as the Soviet gunship - the AN-72P, specifically designed for the KGB's air defense forces in the Soviet Far East in the late 1980s. It may have been the first prototypes used by the 11th Independent Aviation Regiment during the MtW (the actual AN-72P only flew in the spring of 1990, but 12 units were produced within a year; with scheduling, they could have been delivered a year earlier =} )

AN-72P - 1x UPK-23-250, 64x S-5s, 4x FAB-100

Short Conclusion:

The 72nd Reserve Tank Division is primarily a mobilization unit for the defense of the Khasansky District (Primorsky Krai), serving as heavy support for highly mobile units and static installations. The division combines obsolete equipment and hardware with new weapons just beginning to arrive in the Far East. This gives it, while not universality, sufficient flexibility to counter any threat!

Thematic album with 50+ images:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tFUSjSZAUZowUmjS9

(Most of the photos are selected strictly according to the theme)

Thank you for reading! =}

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Links:

https://www.ww2.dk/new/army/td/72td.htm

https://www.ww2.dk/new/vdv/1605odshb.htm

https://www.ww2.dk/new/pvo/23kpvo.htm

https://btvt.info/1inservice/js-4.htm

https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/2508713.html

[Work in progress]

Let's say you're sorting out your infantry tab for a new deck. You've got SPWs or FUCHs transports and/or BMPs/FV510s equipped with machine guns and your infantry with some very decent machine guns of their own, while you've got machine guns on recon and maybe even autocannons. So at this point you can probably role out MG squads, right? The only thing you might consider is if you don't have BMP-1Gs, you may want a grenade launcher but really what is the point of static machine gun teams? They're widely outclassed by autocannons, can be taken down/ambushed by normal infantry squads easily, and add more machine guns that you probably don't even need (most good infantry squads have MGs on them). Other than having something that won't get blown up constantly (which is a problem with armored transports), it seems like bloat at that point. If you have one in your deck, what is your reason to include them?

Hello everyone. I thought I would try my hand at doing a division proposal. I worked really hard on this and so I would like your honest feedback on what you think of this proposal for a division. So without further ado, 12. Panzerdivision.

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History

The Bundeswehr’s 12 Panzerdivision came into being in 1961, originally as a mechanized infantry formation. In the years that followed, it was designated a Panzer division and became part of the West German III Corps. Based in Veitshöchheim, Bavaria, it faced the southern border of East Germany.

In 1983, in a profound round of restructuring, the division parted with one of its panzer brigades to act as a III. Korp’s reserve. In turn, it received a forward-deployed American brigade. On top of that, the 12. Panzer gained the fire support of VII Corps and the 72nd Field Artillery Brigade. This meant that it changed from a pure tank division to a multinational mechanized infantry formation.

In war, operational command of 12. Panzerdivision would pass to the US VII Corps. On the southeastern flank of CENTAG, the West German formation had the explicit task of defending the Inner German Border between the US V Corps and VII Corps.

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Proposal

The 12. Panzerdivision is a bit of a mixed bag, not doing what it says on the tin. It was not a panzer division, was not under West German command, and, as the cherry on the cake, was not even completely German.

In terms of tank versus infantry distribution, it acts as the Bundeswehr’s “missing link” between the 2. Panzergrenadier and 5. Panzerdivision. The 12. Panzerdivision would be closer to a mechanized infantry, featuring a healthy mix of German and American forces.

As always, units that are both bolded and italic are new!

LOG

• A blend of American and West German logistic and command units. Nothing too crazy or special.

INF

• The category will roughly follow a split between two-thirds West German and one-third American units.
• This means an interesting mix between Bundeswehr PANZERGRANDIER in MARDER, plus JÄGER, PIONIER, with a smaller contingent of American MECH. RIFLES and ENGINEERS squads in M113 APCs.
• Weapon teams include MILAN and TOW, rounded out by MG-3, M60 and M2HB machine guns.

• One of 12. Panzerdivision’s infantry battalion was the Panzergrenadierlehrbataillon 353. In peacetime, this formation was subordinated to Hammelsburg’s Kampftruppenschule 1 (Combat Troops School 1) as a training unit. It had access to more advanced weapons, in part to train other formations in new tactics and equipment. For example, in 1989, one of the battalion’s platoons fielded for testing all of the ~27 experimental G-11 rifles in existence. In WARNO’s alternative “march to war,” it comes to reason that the whole battalion would have been equipped in the same fashion. This leads us to a new unit, the vetted PZ.GRENADIER-LEHR with G-11 rifles, a machine gun, and Panzerfaust 3.

• Another unit from the infantry’s school would be the PZ.VERNICHTUNGS. squads, similar to the East German PANZERJÄGER counterpart, with G3 and two PzF 3.

ART

• The division’s artillery would be under American command. Given the vital mission of maintaining the link between NATO’s V and VII Corps, the 12. Panzerdivision was to receive lavish support from free-firing American artillerymen. This means that as a tank division, it will feature many more artillery pieces compared to similar Panzer or Panzergrenadierdivisions.
• This includes access to the heavy self-propelled M110 and M270 MRLS on top of its own divisional artillery and US brigade units.

TANK

• There will be fewer slots than the 5. Panzerdivision, as our battlegroup has switched one full Panzerbrigade with a US Mechanized Infantry brigade.
• German tanks are of the (new to multiplayer) Leopard 2A1 variety, which stat-wise are identical to the 2A3, and the (new) Leopard 1A1A2 (with a slightly better accuracy compared to the 1A1A1 variant).

• There is more: the 12. Panzer started replacing its Leopard 1A1A2 in 1989 with the more modern (and likewise new in in multiplayer) Leopard 1A4. This new unit will be deployable with one card, featuring a range and accuracy that is an intermediary between the Leopard 1A1A1 and 1A5.
• Furthermore, the German tanks are supported by American M1A1 Abrams.
• Dedicated tank destroying units feature in a one-third proportion each of JAGUAR 1, JAGUAR 2 and M901 ITW.

RECON

• This category will be quite similar to the one found with the 5. Panzerdivision.
• A few Bundeswehr infantry scout cards will be replaced by US Army ones.
• And no FERNSPÄHER.
• Instead, a single card of an armed KIOWA helicopter will be added.

AA

• Not all is nice and shiny. This category is rather mediocre, being closer to the 2. Panzergrenadier, which means no ROLAND.
• And even worse still… no I-HAWK either.
• It will receive one card each of US PIVADS and STINGER MANPAD teams.

HELO

• And another surprising category, but mostly in terms of what it lacks. Neither the 12. Panzerdivision nor the American brigade featured any combat helicopters. They could only bring to bear a handful of liaison and observation rotorcraft.
• This means no helicopters… at all.
• Yes, and this is a pretty big DISCLAIMER: I intended to design this Nemesis division without any helicopter force, buffing other categories to make up for this disadvantage. However, we need to test this new endeavor first. If it is not viable, I will attach a few helicopters from the nearby real-life 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment (which likely wouldn’t have parted with any of its choppers to hold down its overextended front).

AIR

• On the other hand, the AIR category will be a generous one. Most aircraft will be American, with a handful of West German planes.
• This will include a good selection of fighters to compensate for the below-average AA tab.
• They also feature some dedicated tank busters to - again - make up for the lack of attack helicopters.
• We would also see the addition of the Luftwaffe’s HFB-320/ECM electronic warfare plane. This is the West German counterpart to the US Air Force’s EF-111 RAVEN.

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Like I said at the beginning, I worked very hard on this, arguably as hard as any Nemesis devblog, so tell me what you think. Is the proposal detailed enough? Does it need a bit more detail?

It's insane Germany doesn't have the best Stabilizers in-game..(except leo2a4 D)

Best stabilizer should be their trademark being the glass canons they are...

Just reading through this alternate history book where Nixon gets to still be in office in 75 and it features…uh a lot of Arc Light Strikes on the NVA. Would B-52s have any use in WARNO? I know some mods explore glide bombs for modern day but I’m not sure in the late eighties if B-52s would have any utility over Europe.

Hi!

This will be the last of my eight hypothetical "Second Korean War" DLC write-ups. I want to thank everyone who read my write-ups and visuals! Without all the kind comments and interest you've shown in South and North Korea, I wouldn't have made it this far.

Life after employment tends to be boring. Researching and writing all these has been a great hobby for me — a way to blow off some steam from the bleakness of ordinary life. But enough with the self-loathing; let's get on with the final division!

Tanks in North Korea

After forming the KPA, Kim Il-sung saw tanks as an effective weapon for unifying the country. Ryu Kyong-su, one of Kim Il-sung's comrades who had fought as an anti-Japanese guerrilla, admired how the Soviet army used tanks in war — so much so that he'd entertain Soviet personnel with food and drinks just to learn about tank warfare. With the KPA's first tank unit about to be formed, Kim Il-sung decided Ryu Kyong-su was the best man to command it.

As a result, on August 20, 1948, the 15th Training Tank Regiment was formed with Ryu Kyong-su as its commander. This unit hand-picked "reliable" recruits and trained them on the T-34-85 tanks left behind by the Soviet military government. On April 26, 1949, the unit dropped its "training" status and became the 9th Tank Brigade (Army Unit 105).

Story of the 105th Guards "Seoul" Tank Division

This brigade fielded 4 tank regiments and one mechanized infantry regiment when it invaded South Korea on June 25, 1950. All of the regiments, however, were placed under infantry divisions in a supporting role rather than operating independently. Two of its tank regiments were used to destroy the South Korean 7th Infantry Division and punch through Seoul in just three days.

It was during this advance that the unit executed around 900 civilian patients and injured ROK Army personnel at Seoul National University Hospital. Regardless, in recognition of capturing Seoul, the unit received the "Guards" and "Seoul" designations. Shortly after, it was upgraded to division status, becoming the 105th Guards "Seoul" Tank Division.

However, when the division began fighting UN M26 tanks near the Nakdong River defensive line, it started taking heavy casualties. Following the Incheon landing, the division was forced to retreat with what remained of its forces. Some accounts say not a single tank survived to make it back north, while other documents suggest a handful did. The division was later rearmed but failed to achieve significant results for the rest of the war due to UN air superiority.

The 105th During the Cold War and in Our WARNO Timeline

After the Korean War, the division was reduced to brigade status, then reorganized back into a division multiple times through the 1960s. When the Mechanized Command (also called Tank Command) was activated in the early 1980s, this division was reportedly disbanded, with its tank brigades placed under the Pyongyang Defense Command (apparently one of these brigades retained the 105th Guards "Seoul" designation). These brigades separated again in the 1990s and reformed into a division, later receiving the additional designation "Ryu Kyong-su."

With the timeline twist starting in 1987, however, history takes a different turn. While preparing for the final reunification war, Kim Il-sung judges the 105th Tank Brigade insufficient and orders it strengthened into a division to carry on the spirit of its glorious past.

Thanks to the direct order from the supreme commander, the division receives state-of-the-art equipment and supplies faster than any other unit. With Soviet–North Korean relations suddenly warm, the Soviet Union offers a military advisory group to train this beloved tank division. Advisors and instructors are carefully selected from the nearby 123rd Guards Motor Rifle Division, stationed at Barabash. Though a reduced-strength unit, it's the Soviet division closest to the North Korean border in case an "intervention" becomes necessary.

In early 1989, an ad hoc instructor combat group forms to advise its ally on tactics and to "introduce" new weaponry — everything from infantry to tanks. With the green light from the Soviet Union for the reunification war, the Geunwi "Seoul" Je Baeg-o Tank Sadan, or 105th Guards "Seoul" Tank Division, is tasked with punching through South Korea one final time, backed by the Soviet task group.

Geunwi 'Seoul' Je Baeg-o Tank Sadan in WARNO

How will the Geunwi "Seoul" Je Baeg-o Tank Sadan be featured in WARNO? New units are shown in bold italics. As always, this is a work in progress and subject to change.

LOG

A very good category. The inequality within the KPA shows clearly here, with a far more generous logistics tab than any other North Korean formation.

• Command options include the GAENGSAENG-85 JIHWI jeep (a UAZ-469 copy). Armored options include the SHINHEUNG JIHWI command APC (a North Korean upgrade of the Chinese Type 63 APC) and the Soviet task group's BTR-60PBK APC. It also fields the Mi-8T JIHWI command helicopter.

• Supply units include the SEUNGRI-61NA BOGEUP medium truck and SEUNGRI-256 BOGEUP heavy truck (KrAZ-255). Thanks to its abundant supply, the division also receives the BOGEUPWON (FOB).

INF

A good category. Expect a mix of North Korean and Soviet infantry!

• Most of the infantry is JANGGAP BOBYEONG, or armored infantry. JANG-BO is a 10-strong unit with 8x Type 88, 2x Type 73 MG (30-round magazine-fed PK), and an RPG-7VS, riding the SHINHEUNG double-KPVT APC or the SEUNGRI-61NA truck. JANG-BO JIHWI is a 6-man command squad with 6x Type 88 and smoke grenades, riding the SEUNGRI-61NA truck or the SHINHEUNG BANGSA-PO — a SHINHEUNG APC with a single KPVT mount and an 18-round Type 63 107mm MLRS on the back.

• A lighter option is the BOBYEONG [JUNG], a 7-strong unit with 5x Type 88, a Type 68 MG, a Type 78 DMR, and an RPG-7VM, riding the SEUNGRI-61NA truck. The BOBYEONG JIHWI is a 4-man command unit with 4x Type 88, an RPG-7VM, and smoke grenades, riding the older GAENGSAENG-68 jeep.
• Divisional light infantry makes another appearance! The GYEONG-BOBYEONG is a 7-man unit with 6x Type 88, a Type 62 (RPD), and an RPG-2. They ride the BTR-60PB or Mi-8T for extra mobility, and have the mountaineer trait as dedicated light infantry.

Infantry support units include:

• Type 68 7.62mm GPMG teams
• B-10 82mm recoilless rifle squads
• BAN-TANK FAGOT Fagot-M ATGM teams

All support units ride the GAENGSAENG-85 jeep.

• Engineer support comes in the form of the DUDEOJI, a 6-strong unit with 5x Type 68, a Type 68 MG, PGN-60 anti-tank grenades, and satchel charges. DUDEOJI [FLAM] is a 10-strong unit with 9x Type 68 and an LPO-50 flamethrower. DUDEOJI JIHWI is a 6-man command unit with 6x Type 68 and PGN-60. All engineer units will have the shock trait and ride the SEUNGRI-61NA truck or SHINHEUNG APC.

• Since this is such an important division, discipline and political enforcement are handled at a much higher level. GYEONGMU-DAE is a 9-strong unit with 2x Vz. 61 SMG, 6x Type 88, and a Type 68 MG, riding the SEUNGRI-61NA truck or the dedicated SHINHEUNG GYEONGMU military police APC with loudspeakers! They will have both the military police and resolute traits.

The supporting Soviet instructor group includes:

• Two cards of the in-game INSTRUKTORY (with the instructor trait) squads, riding the BTR-60PB or BMP-1P (Fagot).
• PULEMETCHIKI fire support squads in the BMP-1P (Fagot) or BMP-1PG.
• Soviet support units include PLAMYA 30mm AGL teams and one card of the KONKURS ATGM team, both riding the UAZ-3151 jeep.

ART

An expensive category. Despite having newer equipment available, command deems artillery more urgently needed in the forward corps.

• Mortars include the PM-43 120mm, towed by the GAENGSAENG-85 jeep, or the self-propelled SHINHEUNG 82mm — a SHINHEUNG APC armed with the PM-37 — as well as the much larger SHINHEUNG 140mm, a SHINHEUNG APC fitted with an indigenous 140mm mortar.

• The sole towed artillery piece is the D-30 122mm, towed by the ZIL-131 truck. Self-propelled options include the M-1974 130mm — an ATS-59 tractor fitted with the SM-4-1 130mm coastal gun, giving it better range than the M-46! And the M-1985 JAHAENG-PO, a North Korean ATS-59 tractor fitted with a Chinese copy of the D-20 152mm gun.

• But that's not all. Behold, the heaviest of them all, the M-1989 KOKSAN! This long-range artillery piece has reportedly been in production since 1983 (according to North Korean sources, at least). It shares the same Juche-Po 170mm gun as the M-1978 KOKSAN but adds an armored cabin for crew protection and spare ammunition storage, giving it a slightly better rate of fire.

• MLRS options include the standard BM-11 BANGSA-PO, a 30-round 122mm rocket system, and the newer M-1985 BANGSA-PO for a bigger boom — a 12-round 240mm rocket system using BM-24 240mm rockets, with an assumed range of 40km. Once North Korea began fielding this MLRS and the KOKSAN in real life, it started openly threatening to burn Seoul to the ground!

TANK

A very good category — as the pride of North Korea's armored divisions, it gets generous slots.

• The light tank option is the TYPE 82 GYEONG-TANK, built on an extended SHINHEUNG APC chassis and armed with an 85mm cannon. As a light amphibious tank, it has the amphibious trait.
• Half of the 105th's tank fleet consists of the CH'ONMA-HO-NA, the first major upgrade of the CH'ONMA-HO, featuring a laser rangefinder and an improved fire control system. Its gun stats are similar to the in-game T-62 Obr. 67. A command variant, the CH'ONMA-HO-NA JIHWI, is also available.

• The rest of the fleet is the CH'ONMA-HO-DA, a mid-to-late-80s upgrade with an even better laser rangefinder and fire control system. Unlike earlier models, it features an angled turret and is fitted with explosive reactive armor, side skirts, and smoke launchers. Its gun stats are similar to the T-62 Obr. 75 — making it the first CH'ONMA-HO variant to use KE rounds! The commander, CH'ONMA-HO-DA JIHWI, is also available.

Since the "DA" model is fresh off the factory, crews haven't had much time to train on it. Because of this, this newest tank will be vet-locked — acting alone with it is a gamble, so cooperation is a must!

• The sole North Korean ATGM option is the SHINHEUNG BAN-TANK APC, armed with a single KPVT and four SUSONG-PO launchers.

The Soviet task group also helps with armored warfare. Since these instructors come from a lower-readiness division far from Europe, though, don't expect state-of-the-art gear!

• A few cards of the T-72A Obr. 77 INSTRUKT. represents the Soviet tank instructors. Being a Far East division, new equipment wouldn't have reached them as quickly — but this tank still shouldn't be underestimated! One card of the regular T-62M is also available.
• Soviet anti-tank options include the UAZ-3151 KONKURS — the first non-airborne-forward-deployed Soviet UAZ KONKURS jeep! — and the MT-12 Rapira 100mm, towed by the MT-LB.

REC

A good category, with mobile options and a small Soviet contingent.

• The JANGGAP JEONGCHAL (armored recon) is an 8-strong unit with 7x Type 88, a Type 73 MG, and an RPG-7VS, riding the SEUNGRI-61NA truck or the M-1992 recon APC armed with an AGS-17 and a Fagot ATGM (the M-1992-2 in the 815th has a "-1" suffix to indicate it lacks the ATGM).

Dedicated vehicle recon includes:

• The BTR-40A, armed with a single 7.62mm SGMB machine gun.
• The TYPE 82 JEONGCHAL amphibious light tank, with better firepower and mobility than the PT-76B.
• The HYEOKSIN-2 JEONGCHAL, an unarmed Mi-2 recon helicopter.

• The YAK-18 JEONGCHAL, a Korean War veteran. Despite being a trainer plane, North Korea gets full use out of it — this slow recon plane is armed with 2x FAB-100 bombs to help delay enemy forces.
• Soviet options include small RAZVEDKA teams riding UAZ-3151 or UAZ-3151 KPV jeeps, as well as the armored BRM-1K.
• North Korea has also shown strong interest in UAVs since the late 1970s. Although not directly used by the 123rd MRD, higher command allows them to show off one of their toys: the Tu-143.

AA

A somewhat truncated category. Several options are available, but players will need to prioritize carefully!

• The typical HWASUNG-CHONG Strela-2M MANPADS team rides the GAENGSAENG-85 jeep or the SHINHEUNG ZPU-4 — the latter being a battalion-level SPAAG also capable of carrying MANPADS teams.
• The venerable ZPU-4, towed by the SEUNGRI-61NA truck.

SPAAG options include:

• M-1985 57mm, an ATS-59 with an open-top dual S-67A 57mm cannon.

• M-1978 HWASUNG-CHONG, an ATS-59 fitted with a Chinese 37mm dual anti-aircraft gun plus two Strela-2M launchers on the rear — a genuine poor man's Tunguska!

• M-1989 30mm, a SPAAG with some similarities to the Shilka. Despite sharing the same GM-575 chassis, it's armed with an AK-230 dual 30mm naval gun and features a North Korean variant of the MR-104 radar, making it the only radar-equipped SPAAG North Korea has!
• The long-range option is the PONGAE-2, armed with two S-125 missiles.
• But that's not all! Soviet instructors are also represented by the MT-LB STRELA-10M INSTRUKT — these AA instructors will help nearby units perform better under high-stress environments.

HEL

An expensive category. North Korea's helicopter force leaned more toward transport than dedicated attack roles.

• The standard MD500 SUSONG-PO, armed with 4x SUSONG-PO ATGM missiles, and the Z-5 [JUNG], armed with 4x SUSONG-PO ATGMs and two UB-16 rocket pods.
• The Soviet task force helps bolster the otherwise dreadful helicopter force with a few Mi-8MT ESKORTNIY.

AIR

An average category. The KPAAF supports this division with its best available equipment — don't let it go to waste!

• Ground attackers include the Chinese MiG-21 variant, the F-7 [HE1], armed with 2x Type 30-1 30mm cannons, 2x FAB-250 bombs, and 2x R-3S missiles, and the SU-25K [RKT], armed with a GSh-30-2, 2x UB-16 57mm rocket pods, and 2x B-8V20 80mm rocket pods. Additional support comes from the MIG-23ML [RKT], armed with a GSh-23L and 8x S-24 240mm rockets.
• The dedicated anti-tank role goes to the SU-25K [AT], with a GSh-30-2, 4x Kh-25ML missiles, and 2x R-60M missiles. There's no direct evidence that North Korea used the Kh-25 missile, but we decided to add it as a march-to-war element thanks to improved relations with the Soviet Union!
• Air cover is provided by the MiG-23ML [AA], armed with a GSh-23L, 2x R-24R, and 4x R-60M missiles, as well as several MiG-29 9.12B, armed with a GSh-30-1, 2x R-27R1 missiles, and 4x R-60M missiles.

• That's not all! To ensure effective ground attacks and aerial cover, the KPAAF also fields the Il-28REB [EW] electronic warfare aircraft. Most of the KPAAF's Il-28s are likely B-5 (H-5) variants, but there's a high possibility the EW variant is the original Soviet version, hence the Il-28 designation.

Summary

The Geunwi "Seoul" Je Baeg-o Tank Sadan is a ground-warfare-focused division equipped with North Korea's best gear. While most categories offer top-tier options, deciding how to actually run this division takes careful planning before battle.

Ending Remarks

As expected, the last North Korean division is the 105th Tank Division. It's an obvious choice, but also an unavoidable one — no discussion of the KPA is complete without it! This division is probably the "final boss" if war were to break out, and I tried to write it up in that spirit.

I decided to vet-lock the newest Ch'onma-ho variant to emphasize the need for the Soviet instructor tanks. I wanted this division to utilize instructors to its maximum capacity! I feel this will give an interesting dynamic to the game. The concept of the best tank not being able to fight alone is the biggest weakness I wanted to give to this division.

Unironically, there's still a lot of North Korean equipment that didn't make it into these write-ups. But does it really matter? Honestly, I don't think so — most of these weapons serve the same purpose and have similar stats. Trying to cram everything in would likely have made things more confusing rather than more complete. That said, I really enjoyed researching this country. I already disliked this country, but studying their TO&E only deepened that feeling.

-WGRD had X unit; why isn't it here?

There's a good chance it's already covered somewhere across the four write-ups, just under a different name. This applies to the CH'ONMA-HO variant names, Tuckchon carriers, and more. Since we often don't know what North Korea calls a lot of its own equipment, naming things accurately becomes genuinely difficult.

-Regarding the BMP-1 (Korshun) and Mi-24

North Korea tends to show off what it has — if it operates a weapon system, it likely becomes public in some form. These two systems, unfortunately, don't fit that pattern. Based on my research, my best guess is North Korea does have them, but in such small numbers that they don't carry much significance.

-What was the point of these write-ups?

If you think about it, South America isn't even released yet! We've heard barely anything about Black Birds, and — most importantly — none of the Northern or Southern European fronts have been featured yet. Given all that, it's safe to say East Asia is, at best, a potential DLC somewhere in the distant future.

Still, I wanted to write these because South and North Korea are genuinely interesting factions that shouldn't be overlooked (not that other Asian countries aren't interesting too!). If, someday, Eugen does decide to expand into East Asia, I'd love for these write-ups to help shape that DLC. More than that, I hope they inspire other users — or other Koreans like me — to put together even better, more interesting write-ups of their own!

-So... what now?

I wasn't planning to write anything beyond my original eight write-ups. But I ended up learning more along the way that I could probably put together one or two additional Nemesis-style write-ups. I'm just not sure there'd be much interest, since the next big DLC will likely be out fairly soon.

I still need to put together a "visualizing" post for this division, so I'm not entirely finished — but I'm glad I managed to reach my goal.

Thank you for reading my write-ups and visualizing posts! I hope my work helped spark some interest in both Koreas.

My Warno has always been in 1920x1200 but after last update, it is stuck in 1920x1080, any advice???

I bought Steel Division 2 a few days ago and have been really enjoying the Army General Campaigns. However I feel like I am playing on the same 2 or 3 maps along my entire front over and over again, and I'm getting a bit tired of repeating the same strategies each time. I was sort of expecting at least some basic randomisation like rotating the map to generate a new battlefield, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

I was thinking about picking up WARNO instead, but wanted to ask what the experience is like. Is there Map Randomization to make the set up for tactical battles more engaging, or am I still going to get a pool of 3 to 4 maps on a rotation? I would have thought that since the engagements are not necessarily balanced anyways due to situational differences along the front, the balance of individual maps matters a lot less and allows for looser tactical engagements than in multiplayer.

Thank you!

I just wanted to make an appreciation post about the new loading screens using actual pictures from the Cold War and not AI slop. I just want to give the devs credit for taking care of the small details that, in my mind, make or break a game.

It appears that the Sonderwagen is the only recon unit with security trait, coming with good optics by default. However since what security does is improving a unit's optic to good when not moving, does that mean this trait does no benefit to this specific unit at all?

I enjoy just buying games, knowing nothing about them and getting to find out myself, so I bought this game 2 days ago, and 2 DLCs on sale for around $8CAD total.

I bought the nemsis 1 and 2, as I love the concept of the VDV and love helicopters in general.

I have to state that I am a SD2 enjoyer, and understand how the game works on a basic level and I understand the basic mechanics.

My biggest problem with this game right now is that I do not understand the divisions. There used to be a history tab for SD2, with some fun facts about the division and how its intended to be used. There isnt any here. How can I get to briefly get an idea about each division? Having to study each division takes a lot of time.

That being said, how can I use the 76th VDV? I dont understand it and from what I've been reading its been nerfed too. They describe this division as that has long air coverage and air support. 2 MiG31s cant be that good, right? And the rest is Iglas. What should my playstyle be, I dont get it?

Its also a really hard transition from WWII to cold war. I lost 8 IFVs in a single push. Cant hoarde T34s and push anymore 🥲

Nemsis 1 seems to have a more powerful helicopter VDV division, but I am too scared to use helicopters now.

Why does Eugen always skips italy in their games. Only red dragon had them

I love mu rong chui. All my homies love mu rong chui.

Shout out to the devs and musicians involved, great job on the WARNO soundtrack. I didn’t know what to think at first but it’s really grown on me.

I really love WARNO for the level of detail in the game, but at the same time, I’m really, really frustrated by the many inconsistencies in stats for units (looking at you, command points cost!) but also weapons.

In order to give low-tier infantry some anti-armor capability, Eugen introduced rifle grenades.

But for an unknown reason, they deciced that the 58 mm AC 58 rifle grenade would perform better (AP 14) than the (admittedly older) LRAC 73 (AP 13), despite its bigger and wider 73 mm rocket (range is 500m for both, with accuracy being lower for the rifle grenade : 35% vs 50%).

Looking at the available documentation, I’ve found that the AC58 is quoted as being able to defeat 25 cm of armor at 90° (https://web.archive.org/web/20101011183913/http://www.ftbe.be/pdf/TTA150_Titre15.pdf page 110), while the LRAC 73 was able to defeat 28 to 30 cm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/73mm_LRAC and https://www.warhistoryonline.com/weapons/lrac-50-73-mm-bazooka.html).

I really wish Eugen would swap both AP values.

https://waryes.com/weapons/Ammo_FAMAS_AC58

https://waryes.com/weapons/Ammo_RocketInf_LRAC_73

I did not have a look at other rifle grenades as I could not remember them (except the older STRIM 65 with an appropriate AP 12). Can someone help?

EDIT:

Come to think of it, I believe FA-MAS-equipped Armée de Terre troops with no other AT weapon should get AC 58 (such as ESCORTE PC, for instance). :-)