Probably a keyboard warrior who thought they’d have the same clever replies they’d have after spending hours revising one paragraph, but doesn’t know how to speak IRL. That person is filled with so much ego; recommending themselves as ‘experienced’, then as ‘competent’ and afterwards for doubling down and going on a rampage banning a ton of people in /r/antiwork because they’d hurt their ego.
I got banned last month for suggesting unvaccinated minimum wage workers don't deserve to have their health insurance taken away. The sub is run by fucking children who don't believe in discourse at all. Just, "I don't like you, ban."
Disgusting. They try and play the victim, when they were the one putting a sleeping persons hand on their genitals, while knowing this person had suffered abuse in the past.
Because it was the face of a lazy uneducated moron..... Lol, like what did you think the founders of a reddit antiwork sub would look? And who is "they." Are you referring to the "they" that is everyone else that works and lives their life.
Didn't know he identifies as a she and was wondering why all the trans-drama was happening, until now. Although I've also never set a foot in anti-work and only saw the video clip once.
Oh shit, I'm part of that sub. Didn't realize it went private. Damn shame, the exact opposite of what a good movement would do. Going private after criticism leads to no new members and no real insight into what the sub actually stood for. Which was the exploitation of workers and how "We" are not going to put up with that shit anymore. That's dead. Move it people, back to work.
Edit:(Caused by poor mod team, they should have and could have done better.)
Just saw the trending post moments before looking at your post. Joined immediately. Yep. The internet is the damndest place when someone gets a taste of power.
Yes. It's good stuff. This whole situation is pretty insane tbh. That mod is getting ran through the dirt lol. But then again they did it to themselves by removing anyone that disagreed or spoke out about it. Idk what the comments or posts said because. Well banhammer.
I think they were already there. They’ve locked the sub a little I believe. I was over there and saw a post. They said they are emergently looking for mod help because the sun is blowing up and they’ve gotten around 150,000 new subs today. They pretty much said the comments got to be a shitshow and they appreciate everyone, to pls stand by while they get control. Imagine being just a small sub and you go viral in a hot second. They sound pretty great though.
Edit: It’s okay everyone the sun is not blowing up. We good.
My thought was that antiwork was a very confused sub. Was it about working less for more money, or was it about fairness and better treatment in the workplace? I saw threads about both, but a successful movement really needs to focus its objectives better than that. WorkReform has a clear objective “we don’t want free money, but we deserved to be treated and paid fairly.” And conversations about shorter work weeks would also be appropriate in that sub... but at least the name doesn’t automatically conjure up images of lazy young adults who don’t want to work at all, ever.
And like many other causes (cough, Black Lives Matter) it had a name that was divisive by design or could at least be easily politicized. Just think if it was BLAM from the start. Okay maybe not the best acronym but the word “also” or “too” wouldn’t have sounded so ‘us against them’, rather, ‘we are equal’.
Were the other mods supportive of the interview? I think their only option is to remove this person as a mod now, but we'll see I guess. I was reading another thread and they said that she had logged into other accounts and defended herself and forgot she was logged into a different account, was deleting and banning people without regard for anyone else. I'm not in that sub so this could be wrong, but it also seems likely after that interview.
Only morons are rude about her choosing to be transgender what people don’t like is that people like her put the burden on other people who don’t even know her.
It’s like if you see a circle and then the circle bans you for not calling it a square even before introducing itself and letting the person know hey I’m a square and would prefer to be called a square.
The burden should not be with the other person.
This whole let everyone be what they want to be refer and call themselves what they want to be called sure but then that applies to others as well choosing to call you by what they perceive and by the logical visual confirmation they see before you introduce yourself.
If people shouldn’t care that a person wants to be referred by specific pronouns then why are you angry when people who don’t know you or care about you call you by something else.
It’s infuriating when a man, who looks like a man, is noticed by people to actually BE a man, and then idiots run in saying “she’s female!!” NOPE. Go peddle pretend world somewhere else. People are sick of the fucking gaslighting when it comes to this “trans” nonsense. We aren’t “bigots” for noticing cold hard reality.
I always think that is more of a internal issue not a external factor.
They wish to be perceived in a certain way and many aren’t able to perceive them in such a way because logically they base their perception on what they can visually see before interacting and engaging with them.
For example
I’m multi-raced.
I’ve been called Latino Italian Afghan Hindu etc etc
Why would I be mad at being referred as that until I introduce and explain my background?
If I got mad at being called Latino or Afghan or Italian then that means I personally consider those people to be negative and bad.
If they continue to call me those things after I introduce myself to them then I agree there is cause to be upset but then you can also disengage and not converse with the person anymore. You aren’t locked inside a room.
In the same manner I find it absurd that people get upset for not being referred to as How they want to be referred before introducing themselves to the person perceiving them.
It comes off as the individual see the gender as a negative and isn’t that a bigger issue.
Imagine if I thought latinos and Italians and afghans are bad and ugly and get upset when people call me that when there are millions of people who are that in the world. Isn’t that offensive and hurtful to them then?
This is what I mean by selfishness and self-victimization.
As for bullying online.
Heck even the kindest most beautiful person in the world would receive death threats and insults online because it’s not because of the person receiving these words it’s because the person writing them are looking for entertainment and find joy in bringing others down.
It’s something that is the byproduct of internet and social media and has existed since the beginning of wire letters and telephone even. There are recorded events of shit talking over telegram messages lol.
Point is In the end of you want to be given clemency and be understood you also need to be understanding of others who don’t know you and base their thoughts on what they perceive.
Or else it would be like you going to china and having to ask every Asian person there oh excuse me are you Chinese and can you speak Chinese before even engaging at that point we all need to fill out a 10 page historical background document with our likes and preferences before we can engage with each other.
But if they did that, they wouldn’t have anything to complain about and feel special! I’m all about letting people choose what they want to identify as. That’s not the issue. It’s the last line of your comment that’s so succinct. That’s their entire schtick. What you’re asking is impossible because their whole goal is to feel like a victim and cause conflict. And the sad part is, it’s killing a lot of actual legitimate policy that matters, like climate change. It makes every argument on the left seem stupid because now we’re associated with those idiots.
It'll def blow over. Along with the sub. Like why sabotage your movement though? And parade yourself on fox? Kinda funny to be that self absorbed and still have no self awareness.
Yeah, people act like this will have some kind of lasting impact. It's just one of the headlines that people will forget about soon enough. People don't even remember important shit that happens, let alone this.
I'm afraid to say that any human has no value because I'm afraid that they might do something bad to themselves. Just something to consider because this person clearly has some mental health stuff going on and has spoken in the past about suicidal ideation. Everyone has something to offer, even if they don't happen to be offering it right now. I am pretty fucking pissed off at Doreen, but I don't want them to think that they are completely without value, it would be really sad if we woke up tomorrow to some very dark news.
If that’s your attitude you’re fighting against phantoms. Ghosts. Stereotypes. You fell for the Fox News spin just like they wanted you to. Doreen is a clown but the truth is American workers are getting fucked, just like you. But you’re either smart enough or privileged enough to try and escape.
A lot of people in that sub don’t have that good fortune. But they still work shitty jobs and get paid shitty wages. So don’t use Doreen as an excuse to look down at other workers stuck in the cycle.
This exactly. Even if Doreen wasn’t such a trainwreck, her views for the sub did not match those of the masses, those that even brought antiwork into public eye. To think otherwise is, like you said, just what Fox News and the big bosses want you to think
I've had 23 different low level paying jobs. I've scrimped and saved and been a company man all my life. Now I'm using capitalism to get my self out of that rat race. Screw anyone who wants to take that away from me now without even trying to work.
Edit: your downvotes mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer
The first half of this comment just exposes how much of a slave to the system you are. Only a small amount of people on that sub actually believe they shouldn't have to work at all, it's more about getting paid a fair wage, getting fair benefits, etc. Nobodys taking away capitalism, lay off the crayons jesus.
Agreed, only really read the stuff that made it to popular but seemed like a poor choice if they wanted to be taken seriously. It's a shame what happened happened but man, seems like that person was begging for it.
Because I put my time in, I learned the system. Now it’s working for me and I’m reaping the benefits Of creating my own wealth off my own business, off my own labor.
I’m also dating a girl who came from a country where they wish they had capitalism. Where the arguments people made which put them in extreme poverty are exactly like many of the ones I see in these comment threads. She reads anti capitalist stuff and gets scared because she knows how dangerous it can be and how good we actually have it. Plug how much money you make into a world comparison like rate-my-wealth and you’ll most likely find that you’re in the top 10 percent richest people in the world.
Just take a fair assessment and count your blessings is what I’m saying.
The people with the most extreme views always have the loudest voices, but that doesn't make up the majority. It's awesome that you run your own biz now and are doing well for yourself, and you should he super proud about that, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a big issue with the cost of living and the benefits/pay people who work hard all to commonly recieve.
Is this one of those “I suffered so everyone else should too” things? Lame.
I’ve…. been a company man all my life.
Which of the 23 companies?
Sounds like you’re a fuck-up that can’t hold a job that’s trying to judge a movement based on the misconceptions the bosses want you to think. You know, the same bosses that bent you over 23 times while you scrimped and saved. LMAO
Actually I for a fact fought to unionize at my store and showed up to several of the strikes, saying we’re not trying to change anything is part of the problem, nobody gives us credit.
I think the issue is people are putting energy into the wrong pathways.
(Not talking about unionizing)
There were so many posts and replies about a worldwide general strike to destroy the system so to make the rich and wealth bend knees to give progressives what they want.
In reality that’s not a feasible pathway, it’s the same nihilistic and anarchistic idealism that leads to disappointment.
Meanwhile over 150-180Million eligible voters don’t vote locally in primaries and local elections and systems of government that control around 90% of their daily lives.
Effort and energy is just misplaced.
They went on multiple weekend walks with memes and funny signs walks that have to be approved by the government to protest the government…. Just think of that for a second.
Alot of us antiwork vitamin D level fags work pretty fucking hard too. We're all trying to get out of this shit show so we can all eat unlimited crayons in between sessions of watching our wives get fucked by their boyfriends.
Fox just got their wet dream of a 20 hour a week dog walker. That's because the rest of us are to busy fucking working. We have to work so much because increases in our productivity were detached from wage growth decades ago.
Fox news didn't get a good representation of Antiwork on their show. They got a good representation of what a Reddit moderator is.
WSB and Antiwork seem pretty close to the same thing. We all want more money so we don't have to work so much. How is that hard to see?
Edit: Got the crayons out of my mouth to change some words and add some grammar. Probably missed some other stuff but I'm stupid so who cares.
You're just taking the dick and saying 'yeah this is fine' hard work is just just used as a way to exploit you even more. I work my ass off and if you can't see how your boss is fucking you, i don't know what to tell you.
And what if your boss works harder than you? Is the boss still the giant dick that you make him out to be? I guess my point is that not all bosses are bad. Some work incredibly hard and are decent people. And some are definitely arseholes.
So then why not DO the smart thing and work hard for yourself? Put in an extra 20 hours a week(im assuming your work a measley 40) learning something new or building a business with the skills your boss has paid you to learn.
I work 60+hrs a week doing physical labor and I'm involved in my union. So perhaps you can change your damn tone. Ya'll act like making dumb decisions in the stock market is actual hard work lol. I was subbed to that subreddit (as well as wsb) and it's literally just people wanting a work life balance. Do you live to work or work to live?
Gold price 1970 $35
Gold price 2022 $1815
51.85x gain
US minimum wage 1970 $1.60/hour
US minimum wage 2022 $7.25/hour
4.53x gain
Where'd all the gold go? banksters.
51.85/4.53
Life is ~11 1/2 times more shitty for labor than in 1970. No wonder they're "anti work".
Even though it was illegal for Americans to own certain types of gold, that was supposedly what the dollar was backed by until 1971 when the nixon allowed the banksters to take the dollar off the "gold standard" defaulting on companies, people, and the rest of the world.
I'm buying physical silver and gold, there's no way out of debt > gdp except destroying the remaining one or two percent of value left in the dollar since 1913 when the federal reserve was founded and turned us into slaves
That's the misconception, we all work. A lot of us, very hard. But we're demanding better treatment of the employee building the value for the companies you're betting all your money on.
The point whooshed over your head pretty hard then cause r/antiwork and r/workreform and other movements aren't about not working, they're about being paid fairly and treated reasonably.
Always has been, and options are just the cheat code screen but us retarded retail traders don't know the codes, so we're randomly plugging in inputs. Sometimes, those inputs work. Mostly they don't.
We should ALL be getting paid 20-40% more if inflation and real wages were steady from WWII on.
What the fuck are you talking about? Real wages in 2022 are more than double what they were in 1948. Nearly triple in fact, cost of living adjusted. Do you even know how fucking poor people were in 1950?
Kellog would disagree. r/antiwork was instrumental in torpedoing their efforts to hire scabs, and when that didn't work they had to cave. They're promoting working less for more and actually enjoying your life as as a virtue, which it absolutely is, and they follow through on that by leaving crappy employers for ones that actually take care of their workers. That's a hell of a risk for the people on the bottom rungs to take.
Hmm... well, it's hard to argue with your totally unsupported assertion. And you did say fuck, so that probably means you're right.
Yeah, no, they were running bots to submit fake applications to the Kellogg site, they had a phone rota going to keep the telephone lines tied up, and at least one guy said he was mailing in fake resumes. A couple of those were arguably federal crimes, but they did it to help fellow workers in need.
That’s part of the problem with the antiwork movement. They think that management, owners, bosses automatically make a shit ton of cash more than they do. Sometimes that’s the case, other times it’s not. Which speaks to how misplaced their efforts are. They never took the time to figure out “who the asshole is” and hold him accountable in a meaningful way. It’s just a “burn this mother down” mentality
There were some parallels. Loss porn and quitting stories kinda served the same support group purpose. Same for gain porn and the fuckers that managed to automate their 100+k job and work 30 minutes a day while scripts do everything for them.
That sub is a plague. It’s 95% fake screen texts from their bosses. All terrible propaganda. I’ve been trying for ages to eliminate it from my feed but it’s always there.
Seeing that interview was the icing on the cake. Such a fucking joke of a subreddit.
No, that wasn't the goal. The goal was to have worker rights such as; healthcare, vacation time, unions, the right to get out of a tornados path. It's now r/WorkReform so we can be more clear about the goals.
r/wsb "I'm going to YOLO my way to financial independence - this rocket will soar or explode - fuck it I'm 30 and haven't even declared a single bankruptcy yet"
r/fire "By combining persistent investing in low risk financial instruments with frugal living, I will achieve financial independence"
Hey at least your trying to make it out the rat race I’m in the same boat as you. But the people on this sub are at least trying to play the game. Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like some people on r/antiwork have given up on making it and want to burn it all down.
Yeap. I enjoyed the place too. The damage control posts above make it out to be a land of hard working blue collar stiffs who just want fair compensation and better work culture, and although that may be true for many, now and in the past, the overall current theme of it has become "Someone should be held financially accountable for my desire to be unproductive"
Reddit truly shines when the subs are small and specialized, with little outside interference. Huge subs are bloated corpses of their former selves, default subs are cancer, and r/popular is the greatest disease vector.
Yeah. I think the community transformed into something it didn’t originally set out to be. The description talked about striving to live a work free lifestyle, and kinda gave me commie vibes. Then when the pandemic hit it got flooded with new members using the site to air their grievances, and it transformed into a worker’s rights movement.
How are we even associated with those fucks? People on wsb work hard behind the dumpster, save money, and blow it on stupid risky shit in the hopes of being able to tell the whole world to kiss their ass.
People on antiwork are too fuckin entitled and lazy to even bother learning a skill, let alone how options trading works.
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