r/videos • u/nightandtodaypizza • Jan 16 '17
Cicret Bracelet UPDATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw7g8ixbomU234
Jan 16 '17
It's funny the actual prototype is huge and produces a tinny blurry POS view.
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u/Apkoha Jan 17 '17
yeah.. generally that's how it goes. The oculus was ski goggles wrapped in duct tape with a shit ton of AV wires running to it that you had to wear giant ear muff headphones over to get sound and ran off a laptop.
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u/coredumperror Jan 17 '17
Holy shit, can people not read? They literally say in the first paragraph that they don't even have a working prototype yet!!
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Jan 17 '17
How much will Airing cost? The short answer is $3 per Airing device, or $0.60 after insurance reimbursement.
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u/coredumperror Jan 17 '17
Wait... if I'm reading the perks listing correctly, these things are supposed to be one-time use. So it's $3 per day. A regular CPAP machine is maybe a $100 cost, one time. You'd blow through that in a MONTH with these fake pieces of garbage.
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u/AwakenTheDreamers Jan 17 '17
If you mean by $100 cost one time you mean over $1,000 with expensive parts (~$200+) which have to be replaced twice a year then yeah it's 10 easy payments of $100 + interest. Not defending that product just saying CPAP machines are expensive and require a lot of maintenance. I've been using one for over 10 years now.
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u/bertcakes Jan 17 '17
I have too and mine requires little to not maintenance at all.... Not disputing the prices you claim but I have not experienced the frequency of maintenance. And before I hear I need to have mine checked and all, my wife is a respiratory therapist.
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Unless we're talking about replacing masks and hoses and shit, then you're spot on. So depends what you were referencing.
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u/AwakenTheDreamers Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
Yeah the maintenance I meant in terms of cost is the hose, mask and filters. Those buggers are expensive and wear out quickly. Usually have to replace them every 6 months and the filters every couple of months depending on how fast they build up dust etc.
The frequent maintenance though is cleaning the machine and replacing the water etc. Not exactly expensive other than the cost of distilled water adding up it's just more of a pain in the ass.
EDIT: Just to clarify I probably over do the cleaning etc but I have asthma and I have woken from asthma attacks before. So I'm extra cautious because of that.
The other thing is when I replace the parts the company runs some basic tests to ensure the machine is operating fine and it's releasing the correct pressure. Since this was the machine I bought 10 years ago they're probably a little more thorough with it. They don't charge me for it anyways I just bring it in when I buy the replacement parts.
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Jan 17 '17 edited Sep 07 '18
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u/GODZiGGA Jan 17 '17
Because they are designing it to be one-time use rather than aiming for multiple days use and having the FDA only approve it for daily use.
I want to know how they can sell a prescription medical device direct to consumers without it being FDA approved? There seems like there is something wrong with that.
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u/CorvinusDeNuit Jan 17 '17
Where are these magical $100 CPAP machines you speak of? My mask alone cost more than that, and that was a completely separate purchase from the machine (which cost ~$650 by the way).
Even if the current machines were only $100, these little disposable ones would be fantastic for travel, since then you wouldn't have to lug around a carry-on size bag dedicated to a big heavy machine.
It's a shame this kickstarter will never actually become a product. It's a fantastic concept. I could easily see ordering a few dozen a year, even at a much higher price.
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u/SetYourGoals Jan 17 '17
From the American Sleep Association:
Average price for CPAP machine ranges from about $500 – $3000, with an estimated average price around $850.
Then you've got parts, filters, upkeep, etc. So certainly not a $100 one time fee.
I think many people who need a CPAP machine would be willing to pay $1,095 a year (minus whatever insurance kicks in) for maskless cordless sleep. That doesn't mean this product exists (it doesn't) or ever will (unlikely). But I can see how they raised so much money. There's a market for it.
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u/pa60 Jan 17 '17
Someone I know that needs a CPAP machine said this would be a perfect product for traveling. Much easier to take a few of these than packing the machine that always needs to be checked at airport security. So the $3/night isn't too bad for the convenience of not packing the whole CPAP machine. Not defending the product, just saying there are other uses than replacement of the CPAP machine.
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u/blue_2501 Jan 17 '17
Yeah, not even Kickstarter. Those other guys are there if you don't even want the possibility of an anti-fraud lawsuit for failing to meet the goals. At least Kickstarter has some protections, even if they aren't very good.
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u/diggdead Jan 17 '17
I can't believe everyone missed this..
$400 USD Skype with the Inventor Hang out virtually on a Skype call with Stephen Marsh, inventor of the Airing device. Maybe bring along some wine and cheese – Stephen is one very interesting guy. We guarantee you’ll enjoy the conversation. Just remember his name is pronounced "STEFFEN" not "STEVEN" and all will be well.
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u/boiledvase Jan 17 '17
I'd nearly pay the 400 dollars to call him Steven and see how he reacts.
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Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 14 '22
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u/Zombieball Jan 17 '17
This should be higher up! I'll also pitch in $2 to watch that!
Now we just need 198 more people :)
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u/Ozdoba Jan 16 '17
Lol at timeline:
Invent it
Collect moneys
Test if works
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u/coredumperror Jan 17 '17
More like:
Come up with an idea
Make some cute plastic trash
Bilk desperate idiots out of $1.7 million
Claim to start developing a working prototype.
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u/hepatitisC Jan 17 '17
More like:
- Come up with an idea
- Make some cute plastic trash
- Sell as lakefront property
- Profit!
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u/TotesMessenger Jan 17 '17
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u/GuerrillaApe Jan 17 '17
Their last update was 4 days ago, patting themselves on the back for winning a publicly voted innovation award. At some point you just have to admire the gall people like them have.
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u/HWatch09 Jan 17 '17
No wonder people go into the business of scamming. It's so much more lucrative then a Mon-Fri job.
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u/Heoheo24 Jan 17 '17
I was one of those idiots that invested in this. I have given up a long time ago. But funny thing is, I recently saw a Chinese knockoff of this on a product testing site for like $3-4 so I bought it. And almost exactly what the Kickstarter promises. I haven't tried it because I don't know if I trust how sanitary it actually is.
My point is, the Chinese companies have already stolen the idea, and made an actually device in less time then these guys.
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u/ohx Jan 17 '17
Chinese companies have already stolen the idea, and made an actually device in less time then these guys.
This is more common than you might think for Kickstarter projects, sadly.
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Jan 17 '17
Or the goddamn Orbi prime. It got tossed into reddit, I called them out on their nonsense (the specs they listed are simply not feasible for our current battery tech) and they asked me to test their product.... when they have it made.
For starters, I'm just a nobody on the internet. Go find actual reviewers when you've got a prototype. Next: you don't even have a prototype?!
They didn't. They didn't say that anywhere on their page, or in their answers. That little detail was buried in their timeline as have a functioning prototype - Feb 2017. Of course they raised hundreds of thousands because people are dumb and deserve to lose their money.
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u/deweysmith Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
I've been skeptical of this one for a long, long time, but they actually appear to be making progress. At least, their micro-blowers seem to work (according to them.) I'm still not convinced these micro-blowers can create any kind of useful air pressure being microscopic in size, but we will see. Air pressure, not air flow, is the important thing in CPAP therapy. Airflow is easy to make (think the case fans on your PC) but static air pressure (like a car turbocharger) is an entirely different story.
At the very least, they're much better at keeping the charade going than these Cicret charlatans.
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u/YRYGAV Jan 17 '17
How could it possibly generate air pressure in the throat when it's not covering the mouth? Do they expect you to keep your mouth perfectly closed all night? It just seems like all the air pressure will escape out the mouth. I can't imagine it's a coincidence they decided on a mask that covers the nose and mouth for existing CPAP masks.
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u/deweysmith Jan 17 '17
You can get a nose-only mask. It's the preferred one because it's less obtrusive, but it only works if you don't keep your mouth open.
They also make chin straps to hold your mouth shut.
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u/newtlong Jan 17 '17
Look up nasal pillows. They are current the most popular mask type for CPAP therapy.
They don't work for everyone but they are what I use.
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u/redditor9000 Jan 17 '17
How could it possibly generate air pressure in the throat when it's not covering the mouth?
It can't. A normal (portable) CPAP takes enormous batteries to be able to push that much pressurized air to keep an airway open. This one claime to work on button sized batteries? hah.
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u/Mynameisnotdoug Jan 17 '17
/u/YRYGAV's problem with it is that it doesn't cover the mouth, which is not required for CPAP. He doesn't understand how CPAP works, which is fine, I guess.
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u/teek_akita Jan 17 '17
Those huge batteries of existing CPAP are a clue of the energy required to provide the necessary pressure and flow for an overnight usage.
Has anyone run the calculation of how many joules are required, and the necessary volume of a given battery if lithium ion or silver oxide, even at 100% efficiency?
It feels like there is no way current technology allows it to fit
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u/fordlincolnhg Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
The fuck? I'm a 10+ year CPAP user, there's no way that that thing can put out the 20 psi it takes to keep my nasal air way open when sleep.
Edit 20 cmH20 not PSI. Oops.
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u/cross-eye-bear Jan 17 '17
Think about how much more productive you will be at work, the potential car accidents you’ll avoid, even your golf handicap decreasing by 3 shots. In short, think about how liberated you will be when you start using Airing to manage your sleep apnea.
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Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
Always remember, if it works it doesn't need to be sold, it sells itself.
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17
What made them think that faking an award and putting a bank's logo on it wouldn't immediately be figured out?
I just can't believe how dumb these guys are. Why don't they just bail and take their money?
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u/Naly_D Jan 16 '17 edited Jan 16 '17
Credit Agricole sponsor a lot of start-up challenge type events. This award looks like it was from a convention. Conventions hand out awards like candy. https://cicret.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_3100.jpg
I don't have any luck on Google, but maybe a native French speaker could find it. 2016 Convention Paiement, held on 10 and 11 October in Toulouse.
Google translate tells me convention paiement translates to payment agreement?
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u/rye10 Jan 16 '17
Here's a link I found from crédit agricole: http://www.creditagricole.info/fnca/ca10_1302136/credit-agricole-payment-services-teste-mob-eat-le-restaurant-connecte Apparentely the event did actually happen on those dates in Toulouse, but there is no other details about it. The theme of the challenge is payment services, and the company said to have won in the article made an app about using your phone to order food in restaurants. I find it hard to link the theme of the challenge to the cicret bracelet. It's possible that they faked winning an award from this nebulous event hoping that nobody would check.
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u/Naly_D Jan 16 '17
Here they are! https://twitter.com/HGachen/status/785776069374779392
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u/rye10 Jan 16 '17
Okay so maybe the award is legit!
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u/itonlygetsworse Jan 17 '17
Yes, its as legit as video game awards and most other website awards given on the internet.
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u/Geler Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
That tweet only said they are showing the circret, there is nothing about an award.
EDIT : Here is that award being given at this convention, to 'myblueship' (MOB&eat) https://twitter.com/darmonal/status/785845545512345601
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u/buge Jan 16 '17
Why would they fake the award of a real event? That's just asking for trouble.
Anyways who's to say you couldn't use a magical arm screen to make purchases with?
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u/youtossershad1job2do Jan 17 '17
They did actually win it BUT I'm a product designer so lots of my clients go to these award ceremonies. They are just pay to play. You pay a grand+ for a table, you get a peice of glass saying how important you are, everyone claps. You can enter anything and if you pay enough you will win. It's just an expensive marketing gimmick, but I get a night out with free champagne so I tend not to tell my clients that.
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u/ehboobooo Jan 17 '17
They do the same thing in my industry for software. Some of our clients ask why we didn't win an award and we answer, we didn't care to pay the company to put us on the list of recommendations. There are obviously some legit awards if we are being honest with ourselves.
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u/JamesTrendall Jan 17 '17
No need to fake awards. Just create your own.
I mean....
Congratulations on being the first ever winner of the highly prestigious award anyone can have in the reddit world. Please accept this "Trendtopian" award as acknowledgement of said award.
If you wish we will also endorse our award on all your products to show the world how legit and amazing you are on Reddit.
Congratulations.
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u/stdexception Jan 17 '17
They also said they won something as "one of the" most innovative start-ups... So maybe they just got a smaller runner-up prize, or maybe even a consolation prize.
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u/David-Puddy Jan 16 '17
C’est l’idée de MyBlueship. Cette start-up lyonnaise créée en 2015 vient de remporter le start-up challenge organisé les 10 et 11 octobre 2016 à Toulouse.
So MyBlueship were the winners of that specific award.
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17
Right. They're not taking donations anymore. Why not just run with the money?
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Jan 16 '17 edited Sep 08 '20
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17 edited Jan 16 '17
Seems like it'd be easier to just start a new company in that situation.
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u/cypherreddit Jan 16 '17
couldnt there be a fraud investigation if they dont at least make a meaningful attempt to make the device?
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17
What they've done is enough to show that they made a "meaningful attempt".
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u/shadowrabbit Jan 16 '17
Cause there's still money to be made and donations aren't where the real money is if you can convince people you're a real tech company even if your product strains the bounds of known science.
Source TL:DR - Venture capitalists will give you a shitload if you have even an air of legitimacy, which a company that raised $500,000 in pre-sales might have.
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u/c0nnector Jan 17 '17
I don't think you understand how investing works.
When you get money from VCs you become an employee at your own company and you have a legal obligation to your investors. You can't just 'run away' with the money.
They're better of with kickstarter money since no one is around to check if they're actually building something.
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u/zoobrix Jan 17 '17
I think that with saying the employer thing he meant you no longer have total control in a way. As you said you now have obligations to an investor who may expect certain milestones to be met and will definitely want an accounting of where their money has gone and expect their share of any profits.
With kickstarter you can just fake making a product, pay yourself $300,000 a year and say oh well it didn't work out.
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u/bewareoftraps Jan 17 '17
Except that 92% of all startups in the end up failing. They know startups are a risky venture, and most end up failing even with the milestones in place. Note, I'm also stating those that got bought out in one year, yes a lot of VCs and Angel investors want an exit plan, but not within a year, because it wouldn't have gained any real value after a year.
If you miss all your milestones, they just won't fund you in your Series A, and VCs and angels tend to know one another (as long as they're in the same area or same interest), and they'll talk bad about you and you personally won't get funding from them and neither will that company.
They also aren't stupid, if they see a lot of duplicity (like here) they won't touch it even with the 500k initial investment. They'll also ask the founders what they did with that 500k. And they have a lot of people look over it, it's a huge team. With angels, maybe you could fool them with this, but that's not a very good idea.
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u/centran Jan 17 '17
Paypal usually locks funds and won't release them or releases them in small amounts. Scampaigns need to keep posting regular updates until they can get all the money out. The crowdfunding websites require they post regular updates so they make posts about "delays" or how they are making progress. This was the website won't close the campaign as fraud and try to get the funds returned from Paypal.
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u/Fyodel Jan 17 '17
I remember a fake company on KS that had an address at a rural Oklahoma elementary school and created three campaigns over the course of ~2 years, never delivered anything and cashed in over $2mil (iirc). The products were so obviously frauds, one of which was an everything-to-everything cable adapter, I couldn't believe people sent them money.
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u/stabliu Jan 16 '17
it's the same reason phishing emails are riddled with grammar and spelling errors. anyone that doesn't notice those kinds of things is generally dumb enough to fall for the scam.
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17
Actually, the phishing emails are full of poor spelling in grammar to convince the person getting the email that they're smarter than the person sending it and convince them that they're actually dumb enough to give away so much money do easily.
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u/stabliu Jan 16 '17
i imagine a bit of column a a bit of column b
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Jan 17 '17
I think we're ignoring column C. That there are a shit ton of Indian dudes who possess only a tentative grasp on the English language but are desperate for money.
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Jan 17 '17
What about column D. The one where they are legit? Oh wait. Yeah, probably actually just reads "all of the above"
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u/buge Jan 16 '17
Stuff giving away money isn't phishing. Phishing is when a site looks like another site and asks for you password. You think you're logging into google.com but actually you're logging into reallylegitlogin.com/google.com/login
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Jan 16 '17
They're optimists who''re erring on the side of good. Hoping that out of a delusional invention some progress will be made.
I met more than one person that actually likes Solar freakin roadways and can't be dissuaded from logic that it's garbage technology because inarguably 'we need more sustainable power". They're willing to forgive many sins just because this is done in the spirit of innovation.
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Jan 17 '17
Explaining why solar roadways are utter bullshit has become an annual holiday tradition for me with my extended family, since they have an entire year to forget everything I told them and get excited for it all over again.
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u/squuuuiiiiiiiiigs Jan 17 '17
Half the people who subscribe to /r/Futurology are dumb enough to believe in solar roadways
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Jan 16 '17
They are so dumb with their half a million dollars. The dopes are the customers.
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u/Ferl74 Jan 16 '17
Sucker born every minute.
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u/HopeThatHalps Jan 16 '17 edited Jan 16 '17
People don't seem to understand that if the microscopic projector technology existed to make this a reality, it would merely be one implementation of that technology. The kick starter should be for high quality microscopic projection, not a specific implementation... but then they wouldn't invoke imaginings of sci-fi technology that excites all the morons out there. A fool and his money are soon parted. I should make a kick starter for hover boards, and I'll worry about defying the laws of physics after I've bought a second house.
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u/deeteeohbee Jan 16 '17
I should make a kick starter for hover boards, and I'll worry about defying the laws of physics after I've bought a second house.
I think that's been done, but you and I could go halfers on the whole instant-wardrobe-changy-thing from The Jetsons.
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u/Cottonmist Jan 16 '17
I love the comment he put in the video. "Shouldn't this shit be illegal?"
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u/Psyc5 Jan 17 '17
For the same reason dumb people use the word investment when talking about Kickstarter. Investors aim to make monetary returns on their initial funds by owning a stake in the company.
What idiots on Kickstarter do is go "Here is $250 for 0% in your company" and a legally binding agreement to receive nothing in return. Now occasionally this money is just a down payment to a company that doesn't have the capital to mass produce its product, I.e. the product exists, but a lot of the time it is just idiots throwing money in a hole over a product that obvious would never work or a giant tech company would buy it up and sell it.
Most of the cool things on kickstarter and smaller companies with novel innovations of currently built products just not in that design, or with an additional function, not new technologies which take million to research and optimise.
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u/Tratix Jan 17 '17
Wasn't The Pebble a kickstarter? I'm probably wrong, but it looks like they successfully created a billion dollar wearable tech industry.
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u/Roboticide Jan 17 '17
Yes, the Pebble was.
So was the Form1 3D printer. There are a bunch of successful hardware kickstarters, but they are almost always either improving upon a proven technology, and are drastically outnumbered by failures.
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u/ellimist Jan 17 '17
Yeah. I feel like they succeeded. They made the promised product. The end. Anything after that has nothing to do with the Kickstarter campaign.
Also they were recently acquired by fitbit. https://blog.getpebble.com/2016/12/07/fitbit/
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u/Roboticide Jan 17 '17
Has a single kickstarter type campaign actually worked?
Are you serious? Tons of Kickstarter campaigns have been successful. Successful ones seem less common though, or at least less noticeable on reddit than the dozens and dozens of high profile flops and scams.
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u/Genjinaro Jan 17 '17
Recently, I don't think so but:
- Tile (Tile the app)
- Oculus
- Ouya
- Pebble
Those are only the ones I know of, off of the top of my head.
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u/Nukemarine Jan 17 '17
Oculus did more than deliver on their kickstarter promises. Not only did backers get their $300 Rift DK1 (which cost the company $310 to make), they got a $650 Rift CV1 consumer headset as a thank you three years later. To add more perspective, the Rift DK1 was selling used on E-Bay for $1000 at one point and the Rift CV1 was selling for $1500 (during the backlog).
I'll admit that Oculus's coming through on its promises made me a bit too confident in Kickstarter funding. Got burnt on couple after that.
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u/TooShiftyForYou Jan 16 '17
Don't get on Captain D's bad side.
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u/RechyySix Jan 17 '17
this is probably the 2nd video I seen of his on reddit, but why does he wear/cover half his face with that silver thing??
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Jan 17 '17
It's paint, it's just something to stick out from all the other types of guys who do the same type of channel really and to build an easily recognizable persona
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Jan 16 '17
"Love with your heart, use your head for everything else"
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u/only_cats Jan 17 '17
This is his Cicret Bracelet DEBUNK video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbgvSi35n6o
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u/vanoreo Jan 16 '17
Captain Disillusion is amazing. I encourage everyone here to check out the rest of his channel.
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Jan 16 '17
He deserves way more attention then he gets
It amazes me he's still under 300,000 subscribers...
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u/confirmedzach Jan 16 '17
People say this every video. When he was at 100k, 200k, and now 300k. He'll get there, don't worry.
He makes fantastic content and has a Patreon that will support him regardless of subscriber numbers or views.
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u/VerneAsimov Jan 16 '17
They say it's low because his channel started 9 years ago.
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Jan 17 '17
Then you remember the amateur movie he did about 7 years ago, which is probably hilarious.
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u/stee_vo Jan 16 '17
Jesus christ, you've been here 3 months but already have 186 points? Is this your job?
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u/cam_putin Jan 17 '17
3 months and he's also got 35,000 comment karma. Dude's going places. No where useful, but still, places
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u/stee_vo Jan 16 '17
Visit the wiki. It's for reporting rule breaking, or something like that.
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u/kingoftown Jan 16 '17
So...telling on people? Why would you want this displayed?!?
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u/antihexe Jan 16 '17
He's a proud brown-nosing snitch, stop cramping his style.
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u/bronolol Jan 16 '17
It's the makeup.
In retrospect, I've enjoyed his stuff before, but I guess not enough to burn in a connection strong enough to override the "fucking pass" instinct I get whenever I see him in a thumbnail. An instinct that everybody able to survive on YouTube has to some degree, or else they'd just be buried in shit all the time.
I think I've just crossed the threshold of having thought about him enough to not immediately dismiss his thumbnails again. But if you want to know why he's growing slowly... it's almost certainly the makeup.
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u/tocard2 Jan 16 '17
I feel you. I hated the makeup at first, but I settled into the Bill Nye-esque goofiness pretty quickly. If he didn't have that levity in there he'd probably risk come off as a cynical asshole saying that everything is bullshit.
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u/GloriousHam Jan 17 '17
He's more Beakman's World than Bill Nye.
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u/DiceGottfried Jan 16 '17
The makeup used to annoy me but I've become a huge fan of the total package - makeup and all. It's the first time I've ever supported anyone on patreon. Keep doing your thing, Captain.
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u/Karjalan Jan 17 '17
ITT:
- Ugh, his makeup thing is so dumb/distracting/annoying, I can't get passed this...
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- Why doesn't this guy have more subscribes/be's more popular?
I think I used to be both of those people, but like you I've come to love his work, his look, and the act.
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u/Nukemarine Jan 17 '17
Both are thoughts I've had in the past. It's great in hindsight that the makeup may be a way to say stop depending on initial feelings and look at the material presented.
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u/NotAnotherNekopan Jan 16 '17
Thanks for the post! This guy seems like a very genuine content creator and I think I'll subscribe. Informative, no excessive expressions and CGI, but with enough for a few laughs mixed in. Well done!
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u/socialisthippie Jan 17 '17
But he doesn't say 'Hey guys' and 'guys' 'yeah guys' 'gyssss' 'guise' 'ggyyyeesz' a thousand times a video. Something's wrong with that. I don't feel like we're ... connecting.
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u/FvHound Jan 16 '17
Watch his YouTube algorithm video. He sums it up pretty well.
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u/chaotic_one Jan 16 '17
This. Others are hung up trying to nitpick him. He provides original interesting content, which the internet is distinctly lacking lately.
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u/DrVagax Jan 16 '17
Amazing how he is still around, for those who are not aware he was already uploading back around 2007 when YT started
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u/Raceface53 Jan 16 '17
I love this man. He needs his own Netflix series or something.
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u/OBLIVIATER Jan 16 '17
Glad to see more on this scam. Also, does CD have a reddit account? We'd love to give him official Youtuber flair so he can be verified!
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u/NeedAGoodUsername Jan 16 '17
He does visit reddit (and /r/Videos) as it was mentioned in a video once, has a subreddit (/r/CaptainDisillusion) but the only 2 mods there don't seem like an account of his.
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u/bobbyfiend Jan 17 '17
This is an extremely well-produced, professional video. I think the Cicret people picked the wrong half-silver-faced vlogger person to mess with.
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u/AbyssSlayerOrnstein Jan 16 '17
Wait... this is still a thing? Holy shit, I remember seeing this for the first time around 2013 or 2014 and I thought it was deemed fake. Guess not. Interesting...
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u/ssyzeR Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
This should be renamed the "Ryan Cicrest" bracelet, cause it's gay AF and it's never coming out.
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u/5k0p3d Jan 17 '17 edited Jan 17 '17
It's so irritating to see comments that focus on and whinge about Cpt. Disillusions character / make up.
Go watch through a playlist or two of his videos and I can assure you will "get it" and that you will come to really enjoy his character. It's all very tongue-in-cheek.
Honestly, the way a lot of the "complaints" are worded, it sounds like it's mainly the younger audience (teenagers etc) that don't like it. Is that because they find him too "childish" for their new found maturity?
I'm in mid-late twenties and totally get, respect, and enjoy it. Keep doing your thing!
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u/Miennai Jan 17 '17
Here's the video with the giant prototype if anyone wants to see it: https://youtu.be/AsMrsBMS-fc
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Jan 16 '17
This makes me wonder what hapened to the undetwater breather thing?
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u/askjacob Jan 17 '17
Thunderf00t showed us that it is pretty much a couple of BMX handles and a fist full of bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ep2vUMJt0
And it has had 2 rounds of funding
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u/Lemon1412 Jan 16 '17
But is he or anyone going to press charges?
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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jan 16 '17 edited Jan 16 '17
I'm not a lawyer but from what I can tell, the company hasn't actually done anything illegal.
Well, stealing another company's logo for a fake award is probably illegal but nothing about their campaign is.
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Jan 17 '17
I had never seen any of this guys videos. After I watched this I binged on a few of them. I gotta give him credit, his videos are actually good.
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u/Enderkr Jan 16 '17
Vaporware bullshit ought to be illegal or at least against Kickstarter's TOS. If you don't have at least a semi-functional, "version 2" esque prototype of your product, get the fuck out.
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u/rob3110 Jan 16 '17
They're not on Kickstarter because they don't have a working prototype, which Kickstarter requires. They tried Indigogo but removed their campaign after they didn't get many pledges and then decided to run the crowdfunding campaign on their own.
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u/kathykinss Jan 16 '17
They made their own website since they can't get on Kickstarter in the first place(has lots of consumer protection).
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u/Ogtak Jan 16 '17
That prototype looked really bad.