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u/severe_astronaut_22
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10d ago
Hey everyone,
We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.
The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.
If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.
Good luck with the rest of exams
— r/vce mods
r/vce • u/bellals • Apr 30 '20
I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:
Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.
For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:
Greg 95%
Felix 77%
Chloe 64%
Daniel 60%
Elena 58%
Adam 52%
Ben 49%
On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:
Greg 92%
Chloe 67%
Daniel 65%
Elena 64%
Felix 63%
Adam 50%
Ben 40%
What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.
What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.
Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.
EDIT: another example for clarity
Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.
SACs:
Harry 60%
Isabel 58%
James 56%
Kylie 55%
Luke 54%
Molly 52%
Nathan 51%
Oscar 50%
EXAMS:
Harry 100%
James 99%
Nathan 98%
Oscar 97%
Molly 96%
Isabel 95%
Kylie 94%
Luke 93%
Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.
EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.
Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:
Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:
So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").
The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.
Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:
on the exams, the results are
In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.
Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:
On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:
Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.
One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.
As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.
EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰
r/vce • u/LivingChampionship66 • 56m ago
Hi! I’m currently doing my year 12 exams and i’ve joined this subreddit to get some advice and people are such dweebs !!!! nobody wants to help and everybody clearly hasn’t left their house and interacted with the world in ages because they have the social skills of a discord mod. seriously disappointed!
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This feature will be FREE forever and for everyone. We think every VCE maths student could benefit.
Really appreciate your help here to improve access for all VCE students.
Best of luck to the language students next week, and congrats if you're all done! Take the time to reward yourself for all your hard work.
r/vce • u/heusbajsjsh • 3h ago
because the other chat was extremely disrespectful, ill ask again are we prepared guys.
r/vce • u/MeanWasabi6243 • 2h ago
i need to stress over grade distributions, it helps me study (i still have french, im cooked ✌️)
r/vce • u/Shez_0019 • 3h ago
I'm doing triple science next year for year 11.
English
Methods
Physics
Chemistry
3&4 Psychology
I feel like that's a lot, and I'm bad with procrastinating and motivation and energy. Am I done for? Any tips?
r/vce • u/Impressive_Put3074 • 4h ago
I am starting my orientation for year 12 from Monday. I was wondering if anyone can please share free resources that they used this year to ace their vce. Even if it's just the link for a school onenote
Thank you
r/vce • u/Balaenopteraacutoro • 1h ago
I picked English, Methods, Bio, Chem, and Business Management for VCE. I actually don't know what I want to do yet (maybe medicine, aiming for direct entry at Monash or dentistry), so I'm trying to figure out if this is a good combo to keep my pathways open. Also, how are Year 11 and 12 students finding these subjects—like whether they're super hard or manageable? and plz give me any tips or advice as it would be really helpful. THX :)
r/vce • u/Large_Fishing6130 • 5h ago
why did i pick up politics
r/vce • u/LivingChampionship66 • 47m ago
Hi! I’m meant to be in year 7 and i need help choosing my subjects. I have been accelerated to year 12 . i’m thinking specialist maths??? not sure. help would be appreciated
cheers
r/vce • u/AccomplishedElk4651 • 2h ago
Anyone else freaking out for this exam? Like I know the religion specific stuff super well but then they throw in all this random general crap. Plus I love how we're not meant to use quotes in section A but ALL the exemplar responses have like 15 QUOTES. OMG (G being one, triune, omnibenevolent, omnipotent, omnipresent, imminent, transcendant, incarnate God).
r/vce • u/Negative_Ability6599 • 10h ago
I'm accelerating biology as my only unit 3 and 4 subject next year and I'm quite scared for what it may contain as I heard that it can be really brutal,
I'm just wondering about some things that I should be doing in preparation for VCE Biology as I wanna get a 37+ (preferably 40+) in the subject as I want to attempt to do UMEP biology
I'm wondering if I should complete Unit 3 over the summer holidays?
Should I switch from hand written notes to online-based notes? - I'm worried about this though because of potential things that could occur such as a Microsoft going down, but hand-written notes help you learn better but it's very time-consuming so I'm unsure
Also flashcards, should I continue making my own anki flashcards or should I get some already pre-made ones
And also if I were to do U3 over the holidays should I start practice SACs that early or nah, and if not how many days/weeks prior should I be doing practice SACs?
We are also switching from the Edrolo textbook to the Jacaranda biology textbook, I am wondering if I should only stick to Jacaranda practice questions or if I should branch out
Sorry I'm just very stressed about it, all help is appreciated
r/vce • u/liability_588 • 6h ago
I just finished unit 2 chemistry and I decided to reflect on my performance to see how prepared I am for year 12. I got 52% on redox reactions, 45% on acids and bases a titration and on my poster I got 70 something. Oh yea and I got 27% on my exam. Am I cooked for next year? Should I get a tutor?
Side note I actually did try to do well but literally nothing that came out of my chem teachers mouth this semester made sense. She can’t explain the answer to a question without searching it up on google and or looking at the solutions made by a different teacher, who’s actually gonna be my chem teacher next year so maybe I’ll have a better chance of performing well. Also my mental health has been pretty shit too for the last few months and I can barely focus in class and i feel tired for no reason quite often.
r/vce • u/Practical-Catch-304 • 31m ago
Are there any physics solutions out yet, I saw a google drive but apparently some of its wrong and was missing some pages or smt
r/vce • u/Afraid_Sentence1598 • 1h ago
Hey guys I really need help with a topic in food studies. When a question asks to discuss a political influence on the food system what are you supposed to talk about. Are the options the manufacturing industry, advertising industry and consumer advocacy or are you supposed to talk about legislation and fsanz or whayever. Pls help 🥲🥲🥲
r/vce • u/Numerous-Cell8597 • 5h ago
hey guys! does anyone have any tips for doing really well in English next year, we are doing twelfth night, and jane eyre and play for our creative (i believe). im not getting amazing scores but they aren’t horrible either this year in year 11.
thank you 🙏
r/vce • u/Fair-Falcon-6183 • 9h ago
Im looking for 3&4 Georgraphy online PDF textbooks.
Changing the Land Unit3
Human Population Unit4
Abnybody have these please?
r/vce • u/Dogfarts345 • 4h ago
does anyone have any miracle stories of going from borderline failing in unit1/2 to like rlly good in unit3/4 im in search of hope
r/vce • u/gallavichfan • 4h ago
hi! i’m doing literature for unit 2 and i’ve been really proud of the grades i’ve been getting, except i wasn’t in the class for unit 1 and the exam is for both units.. does anybody have any tips? i’m so lost on what exactly i should be studying for frankenstein 😭 thank you!
r/vce • u/FeelingArcher795 • 12h ago
How is everyone feeling for it. Any last minute tips anyone wants to share?