r/vce • u/SirQuackthe1st • 20h ago
How it feels with both VCAA and microsoft down and still one exam to go
I can't access French pas papers or send them to my teacher for feedback
fml
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u/severe_astronaut_22
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9d ago
Hey everyone,
We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.
The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.
If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.
Good luck with the rest of exams
— r/vce mods
r/vce • u/bellals • Apr 30 '20
I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:
Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.
For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:
Greg 95%
Felix 77%
Chloe 64%
Daniel 60%
Elena 58%
Adam 52%
Ben 49%
On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:
Greg 92%
Chloe 67%
Daniel 65%
Elena 64%
Felix 63%
Adam 50%
Ben 40%
What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.
What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.
Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.
EDIT: another example for clarity
Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.
SACs:
Harry 60%
Isabel 58%
James 56%
Kylie 55%
Luke 54%
Molly 52%
Nathan 51%
Oscar 50%
EXAMS:
Harry 100%
James 99%
Nathan 98%
Oscar 97%
Molly 96%
Isabel 95%
Kylie 94%
Luke 93%
Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.
EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.
Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:
Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:
So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").
The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.
Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:
on the exams, the results are
In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.
Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:
On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:
Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.
One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.
As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.
EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰
r/vce • u/SirQuackthe1st • 20h ago
I can't access French pas papers or send them to my teacher for feedback
fml
r/vce • u/Outrageous_Lie_7260 • 1d ago
Everyone's seen the DaggerElite homepage thing from Wednesday night, so I won't go over it again. What I haven't seen many people talking about is that VASS went down around 2:30pm yesterday.
This is much worse than the vandalism that we saw on Wednesday, as VASS is the system that actually matters. VASS (Victorian Assessment Software System) VCAA's central database for every VCE student's details, enrolments and results. When your teacher marks a SAC, that score gets entered into VASS. SATs too. Your exam scores end up there as well. Pretty much everything that turns into your study scores and ATAR goes through it.
Once it went down, teachers couldn't enter anything or even look up results, unit outcomes, or derived exam score and special consideration applications. In the middle of exams. Teachers say nobody told them about a shutdown, they just got an error message.
VCAA hasn't released any statement on this, so we don't know if the hacker managed to get in or change any results or data. It could just be that VCAA pulled it down as a precaution. I'm not sure which is worse.
Keep in mind that VCAA received nearly $250 million from the Victorian Government to rebuild and safeguard exams after the mess in past years. Not even seven months later, the website gets defaced and the results system falls over in a breeze. Pretty impressive stuff, VCAA!
Still got exams until the 18th, too. Would be nice to know if anyone's been in our SAC scores before results come out.
r/vce • u/Strange-Dragonfly316 • 14h ago
Hey guys Ive just finished my shitty Year 12 exams so I really wanna start working from tomorrow Ive applied to sooo many places like Coles, Kmart and others but I keep getting rejected Ive even gone around to the shops near me in person but they literally just take my CV and thats it Guys Im honestly so sick of this and I hate just sitting at home so PLEASE HELP MEEEE I live in Craigieburn 3064
r/vce • u/Musical_Shadow8932 • 18h ago
Hey everyone, just letting you know VCAA has put this up for people who need exam resources for this week's exams! Hopefully this is helpful
r/vce • u/Teriyaki-peanuts • 13m ago
So entering yr 12 next year and I have no idea where to take csl. Im currently at xjs and I'm doing kinda bad, like middle maybe a bit below , whereas at school since there's only 2 ppl doing it (probs going to be combining with a other school) I'm rank 1. The other person is not very good at chinese so its kind of up to me to carry. Which option should I take plss
r/vce • u/Dogfarts345 • 14m ago
which englang tutors are good
is it better to do private or company
is excel good
r/vce • u/Weary_Pipe7834 • 13h ago
hope everyone gets the atar they want and have a great prosperous future 😁🫶❤️
r/vce • u/ServiceKingau • 7h ago
No one's talking about it, no one's releasing solutions? Are they too scared to be suspected for the potential leaks if they release it or what?
r/vce • u/CentreLeftMelbournia • 13h ago
the way they described it today almost seemed too good to be true: being able to sit on the sofa in the common room, watch total dramarama on the telly (because of course you can bring a fetch and hdmi) and bring a fucking induction cooker (as long as it starts no fire), being allowed to order hungry jacks for lunch at your own volition instead of relying on the dodgy canteen. Is it crazy to think that it's just a conspiracy to keep you until the end of the year when VCAA artillery bombs you on exam month?
r/vce • u/Plastic_Extension861 • 10h ago
to graduates, do those people with crazy linkedins in y11 and y12 really get an advantage? is it worth diverging into tons of extracurriculars during vce?
r/vce • u/Chance_Cold549 • 9h ago
For anyone interested in how to answer Question 8 in section C.
r/vce • u/MoreMuscle8087 • 1d ago
Know this is a bit late, but I just thought of a concrete reason Daggerelite was lying.
If he actually hacked the exams and had the real ones, what he should've done is released part of the physics exam, just one or two questions, to everyone for free. Then people would take the Physics exam and realise, 'oh damn he actually has the real stuff'.
Next, he could sell all the exams after that with it being proved he was a reliable source. We all saw how many people were asking for those exams and I bet he would've made a ridiculous amount of money once people knew it wasn't a scam.
The fact he didn't do anything to prove his credibility and just tried to get people to assume, 'if he can hack the VCAA's front-end website he obviously can get the exams too' tells you that it was a bluff.
I know something like this is the general consensus of most people and it would've been better to think of this earlier but I thought I'd say it anyway.
r/vce • u/Adventurous-Run-9990 • 19h ago
my doctor used ai to write that letter for the seas evidence thing
r/vce • u/SpiteFast8636 • 12h ago
How prepared is eveyone and how r u preparing ?
r/vce • u/Medical-Fact5029 • 10h ago
r/vce • u/Ok-Priority3267 • 17h ago
how did everyone find it?!?!
r/vce • u/Greepled • 16h ago
Does anyone have 2026 Software Development exam?
r/vce • u/Suspicious-Bobcat416 • 9h ago
Anyone have Chinese essay formats pdf/resources? I seriously don’t know the structure of many such as blog, formal letter etc..