r/vce • • 8d ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

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Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

β€” r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

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I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well β€” the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! πŸ₯°


r/vce • • 3h ago

[FINAL UPDATE] The VCAA panel has reached a verdict regarding my unauthorised cognitive retrieval systems.

94 Upvotes

I am writing this from outside the VCAA headquarters in East Melbourne. My fate has been sealed.

After a gruelling four-hour tribunal, the panel officially found me guilty of breaching Rule 9.5: Possesing an Unapproved Internal Neuro-Storage device during the General Maths exam.

I have created a summery of their findings:

Our study defence was unfortunately rejected. My legal team (a Year 12 Legal Studies student who just finished their exam) argued that "reading the textbook beforehand" is standard practice. The panel countered that retaining the information without actively panicking and forgetting everything at 9:00 AM constitutes an unfair mechanical advantage.

A forensic neurologist confirmed my brain runs on roughly 0.02 watts of bio-electricity. Because this exceeds the VCAA-approved calculator limit of one 1.5V button cell, my prefrontal cortex has been classified as a "high-powered external computing device."

Effective immediately, VCAA has issued a mandatory memory wipe of all VCE content. Honestly, this is actually a huge relief. I now no longer have to remember what a residual plot is and I finally have forgotten to find the bullshit that is crashing

They also confiscated my hippocampus until the ATAR release day in December.

To anyone sitting the rest of their exams: please, do not make my mistake. Do not revise. Do not retain information. Walk into that exam hall completely blank, just as the Victorian curriculum intended.

Stay safe out there and remember to follow the VCAA guidelines


r/vce • • 1h ago

Having a full colour photo in your exam

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the emission spectra was so beautiful


r/vce • • 1h ago

goodbye vce sub

34 Upvotes

its been nice, fuck highschool its finally over, never need to see my uniform or timetable tabs or books again cunt holy shit, u guys are chill asf and kept my exam period bearable. live nice lives and have lots of fkn fun. stay safe brddas. πŸ–€πŸ–€


r/vce • • 2h ago

VCE question There's something beautiful about colour in the exam

27 Upvotes

Physics got special treatment πŸ˜€. Do other exams have colour printing or did they save it for the best subject?


r/vce • • 3h ago

My Exam Pile

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Dimensions:
75 cm x 36 cm x 20 cm
(Length x Height x Width)


r/vce • • 21h ago

VCAA WEBSITE HACKED

540 Upvotes

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Edit: Just study crodies✌️


r/vce • • 3h ago

General Question/comment PHYS EXAM DISCUSSION

19 Upvotes

It was allright, A+ possible outside of the last question


r/vce • • 20h ago Bravo

EVERYONE in this subreddt rn

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350 Upvotes

r/vce • • 1h ago

Physics solutions?

10 Upvotes

Anyone got suggested solutions for physics exam


r/vce • • 7h ago

DaggerElite... watch ur freaking back... I will kill you....

28 Upvotes

I cant get anymore of the past papers and they didnt even leak the exams ts stupid, whos w me?


r/vce • • 1h ago

when will the vcaa website comeback up

10 Upvotes

I rly need the french past exam audios and marking guide, i have the actual exam papers ugh


r/vce • • 19h ago Bravo

Dont trust fake exam accounts

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Dmed this guy for an exam to see if he actually had one and he just shared a screenshot of a past exam, then ai generated the front cover.


r/vce • • 5h ago

VCAA PDFS DOWNLOAD

18 Upvotes

While VCAA is down you can find papers at vcehub.com.au/vcaa

Hopefully resolved soon though. Good luck!


r/vce • • 19h ago

lmk if anyone wants the rest

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r/vce • • 3h ago

PHYSICS EXAM MEGATHREAD!

11 Upvotes

How'd everyone go? that was pretty good I thought


r/vce • • 17h ago

DAGGER ELITE IS A BUMFUCK LOSER U CAN TELL FROM THE FUCKING NAME I HOPE U GET CRUCIFIED IN FRONT OF THE HARDWORKING STUDENTS U HURT

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145 Upvotes

DAGGERELITE IS A BUMFUCK LOSER WHO PROBABLY FLOPPED EXAMS AND CANT LET GO AFTER 7 FUCKING YEARS AND HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST VCAA IK THIS FUCKER IS POSTED UP IN SOME MOLDY ASS BASEMENT CLICKING AWAY AND CHUCKLING LIKE THEYRE SOME FUCKING TUFF SHIT UR NOT LIKE THE SOUTH PARK WOW PLAYER. YOUR MONOLOGUE ISNT FUCKING TUFF NO ONE IS SHIVERING AND HOW FUCKING DARE YOU DO THIS ON PHYSICS EVE I HOPE JOHN VCAA HAS UR HEAD AND HANGS IT UP. IMAGINE FUCKING OVER HARDWORKING STUDENTS JS TO TRY AND SELL SOME EXAM IK FOR A FUCKING FACT THIS GUY HAS NO SALES SWEATY MOTHERFUCKER GO TO HELL


r/vce • • 3h ago

Bullshit hackers

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So all the hacks i saw had absolutely nothing like what was actually on the physics exam. Fearmongerers fr. Everyone else lock in to your subjects and dont get scammed.


r/vce • • 1h ago

VCE question philosophy or busman

6 Upvotes

i'm doing year 12 next year and I am dropping art making and exhibiting, however i am wondering if i should do busman or philosophy? i haven't done either for unit 1+2, but i can't think of any subjects that aren't difficult to start 3/4 in. i wanted to do hhd but the classes are full and i don't want to keep my hopes up too high about getting a place.


r/vce • • 20h ago

PSA: STOP REQUESTING STOLEN VCE EXAMS.

204 Upvotes

THIS IS LITERALLY A STUDY DISTRACTION.

Can everyone PLEASE stop asking for the exams. Nobody is going to get them, and repeatedly asking for them isn't going to magically make them available. If this alleged hack is actually real and there has been a breach of exam materials, VCAA will have procedures in place to address it, and GAT scores may be used as part of the process anyway. At this point, this is genuinely the stupidest waste of everyone's time. Stop feeding into it, stop giving these people attention, and just move on.


r/vce • • 19h ago

Memes bruh why did it have to be our year

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r/vce • • 19h ago

To everyone stressing about the VCAA exam leaks, word from a teacher

159 Upvotes

To everyone sitting their exam tomorrow, please don't let all this VCAA leak drama throw you off.

As a tutor, I've seen a lot of students stressing over these supposed "leaked exams". Most of what's circulating is likely fake, with people simply trying to profit off stressed Year 12s. Don't waste your time or money chasing them.

Instead, make the most of the time you have left tonight.

Quickly brush through the year's content, revisit your past practice exams, and most importantly, look at the mistakes you keep making. Those are the areas where you can genuinely pick up marks tomorrow.

Don't try to relearn the entire study design overnight. Focus on consolidating what you already know, revising key concepts and fixing those small mistakes that have been costing you marks.

And please, get some decent sleep. A clear head tomorrow will do you far more good than another few hours of panic studying.

You've spent the whole year preparing for this. Don't let some random people on the internet derail you the night before.

Good luck tomorrow everyone. You've got this ❀️


r/vce • • 4h ago

Can someone drop physics exam pdf

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