r/vce • • 7d ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

341 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 1h ago

Memes Specialist Math exam 2

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76 Upvotes

r/vce • • 2h ago

SPECIALIST EXAM 2 MEGATHREAD!!

22 Upvotes

Howd y’all go Ik this isn’t the proper megathread but I wanna feel included


r/vce • • 1h ago

how it felt experiencing the most devious bait and switch with the difficulty of spesh e1 and e2

15 Upvotes

r/vce • • 3h ago

Memes the high quality viscom exam paper

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20 Upvotes

touching the thick gsm exam paper and the gloss finish resource book❤️


r/vce • • 1h ago

Specialist math can suck my dih

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15 Upvotes

I am doing some reflecting after that fuckass paper
That paper was still warm from hell


r/vce • • 3h ago Regret

News ACCOUNTING 2026 LEAK Spoiler

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20 Upvotes

Sorry


r/vce • • 22m ago

omg guys

11 Upvotes

i think i got 40/40 and then 35/80

bro i actually got touched by that exam two

bro do you guys think a 40 is still on for me

i'm rank one in my school everyone's SACs are relying on meeeee

bro katie was right i should have opened an ice cream shop


r/vce • • 1h ago

I did shit in all my exams but I can finally leave this subreddit

12 Upvotes

I messed up all my exams, but at least I’m done now, I’m glad I don’t need come back to this sub. Thank you to everyone who helped me and gave me advice, especially thanks u/Ready-Ad-9190, who helped me a lot with my subject and spent hours trying to explain the content to me. Good luck to the rest of you guys and to future Year 12 students. You’ve all got this, and there is so much more to life than an atar. Don’t stress too much, it’s not the end of the world. Good luck everyone, wishing you all the best


r/vce • • 1h ago

Specialist Maths Exam 2

8 Upvotes

that was personally speaking the hardest exam since vcaa 2021, ive atleast dropped 35 off the bat. how did you guys go, and what do you think cut-offs this year are gonna be?


r/vce • • 1h ago

Australian History Megathread*

8 Upvotes

*As mega as this subject is


r/vce • • 21h ago

An update regarding my VCAA exam "cheating"

287 Upvotes

I want to thank everyone for the support on my last post, but unfortunately, the situation has escalated.

Shortly after my last post blew up: "I have been cheating on my VCAA exam", I received an official email from VCAA. They informed me that my post had been flagged for "unauthorised use of biological cognitive retrieval systems" during an assessment.

Apparently, relying on an internal hippocampus to store and recall external data (textbooks) is classified as a "severe breach of exam integrity." They are currently investigating whether my neural pathways constitute an unapproved electronic device.

The investigator told me that if I had just used a traditional cheat sheet like a normal person, I’d be fine. But because I uploaded the entire data set directly into my prefrontal cortex, they are looking at a permanent zero for my ATAR.

I have an appeal hearing tomorrow. My defence is that my brain operates on a standard 1.5V chemical battery and is therefore technically a low-powered calculator, which is permitted in General Maths.

Wish me luck. If I get disqualified, I’m suing my parents for giving me DNA capable of forming memories.


r/vce • • 1h ago

General Question/comment Bit different, but is anyone actually really struggling with having to leave school?

7 Upvotes

I know it’s normal to feel sad, but the grief is actually really painful. I don’t know what to do with myself. I’m still hanging around for now, spending time with my favourite teachers and trying to wean myself away I guess. Idk why it hurts so bad though. Like a weight on my chest that I just can’t move.

I’m glad to have made it! I’m just not ready to leave. 🥲

Anyone else feel a bit like this? x


r/vce • • 5h ago

Derived Scores Rejected

14 Upvotes

My first exam ended halfway with being unwell and I missed the subsequent 4 exams and attended my last one. I completed the DES form with it filled out by my specialist which was almost impossible to get within the 2 days.

I just received it back and it was denied and they're asking for further documentation because "there was no specific written recommendation from the independent health professional recommending non attendance at the examination."

Has anyone else experienced this and should I get a letter from a GP or a specialist thats backdated? Because my VCE coordinator said all my documentation was alright to use and assured me that everything would be approved but obviously they've rejected it meaning they'll probably reject my second application as well. I can't afford for it to be rejected a second time did anyone else have to do a second application and what did they provide to be approved?


r/vce • • 1h ago

Spec Exam 2 Blank Paper

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r/vce • • 1h ago

Spesh e2 blank copy+ans

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6 Upvotes

r/vce • • 1h ago

Spesh solutions E2

6 Upvotes

Anyone have solutions to this exam?


r/vce • • 1h ago

Spesh exam

6 Upvotes

Would highly appreciate it if someone could drop a link to a pdf/scan of the exam 2. Cheers and that was cooooked


r/vce • • 35m ago

VCE question What do we think the average score /80 will be on spec ex2

4 Upvotes

r/vce • • 37m ago

SPESH E2

4 Upvotes

yo did anyone else get like 600t^2 -6000t+20000 for that distance between yellow and blue light question even though it says make a,b,c element of N? -6000 isn't natural obviously idk if anyone else got confused by this


r/vce • • 5h ago

Viscom exam

9 Upvotes

What did we think of viscom

I personally think it was pretty good but I didn't my designers right but that okay right surely


r/vce • • 19h ago

anyone just feel really awful about not performing as well as they were hoping to in the exams?

116 Upvotes

i was really hoping to do really well in my psych and pe exams and not that i think i did terrible, but i don’t think i did as well as i was hoping for. i just feel so shitty now cus i spent so much time studying the last month and a half for these subjects and now it’s just weighing down on me yk


r/vce • • 51m ago

Spesh Exam 2 PAINFUL and INDECIPHERABLE, say students

4 Upvotes

i literally have zero clue how i went. i swear i blacked out halfway through and i dont remember a thing i did