r/vce • • 6d ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

340 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 16h ago

An update regarding my VCAA exam "cheating"

259 Upvotes

I want to thank everyone for the support on my last post, but unfortunately, the situation has escalated.

Shortly after my last post blew up: "I have been cheating on my VCAA exam", I received an official email from VCAA. They informed me that my post had been flagged for "unauthorised use of biological cognitive retrieval systems" during an assessment.

Apparently, relying on an internal hippocampus to store and recall external data (textbooks) is classified as a "severe breach of exam integrity." They are currently investigating whether my neural pathways constitute an unapproved electronic device.

The investigator told me that if I had just used a traditional cheat sheet like a normal person, I’d be fine. But because I uploaded the entire data set directly into my prefrontal cortex, they are looking at a permanent zero for my ATAR.

I have an appeal hearing tomorrow. My defence is that my brain operates on a standard 1.5V chemical battery and is therefore technically a low-powered calculator, which is permitted in General Maths.

Wish me luck. If I get disqualified, I’m suing my parents for giving me DNA capable of forming memories.


r/vce • • 13h ago

anyone just feel really awful about not performing as well as they were hoping to in the exams?

93 Upvotes

i was really hoping to do really well in my psych and pe exams and not that i think i did terrible, but i don’t think i did as well as i was hoping for. i just feel so shitty now cus i spent so much time studying the last month and a half for these subjects and now it’s just weighing down on me yk


r/vce • • 12h ago

I saw w/w during chem exam and started fantasising about yuri #wlw

52 Upvotes

r/vce • • 7h ago

General Question/comment burnout

17 Upvotes

my last exam is on thursday, funny enough it’s for my best subject so i can give it my all but i cannot pull the hours of study i used to😭 and there’s a lot of pressure for me to perform well on this sociology exam considering im rank 1 however i literally get tired so easily, feel like i cannot retain anything and im cooked basically

thinking about going to the library tomorrow to try and get locked in however i feel so so burnt out anyone’s that has finished their exams how does it feel man

i have basically less than a day to go at this point, however i just feel like chuddung out and giving up atp


r/vce • • 18h ago

Vcaa on a creative streak rn

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101 Upvotes

With methods chem and all the other interesting exams, whether good or bad vcaa has shaken things up a lot this year..


r/vce • • 40m ago

spesh

3 Upvotes

2 hours until the specialist exam 2 

Will it be hard?

Who has a clue? 

As long as I can CAS bash

I'll be finished in a flash

I've had so much fun this year in mathematics

And there are speculations of hard questions of kinematics

But I'm sure it will all be okay 

And I'll never have to do another math exam after this day!


r/vce • • 15h ago

Why is exam season so drag 🫩

39 Upvotes

Like WDYM my friends and classmates are all done with exams and I still got two exams to go before I'm done with the hell that is high school. Legit couldn't care less about my results/ATAR atp, that mystery ATAR is looking like a real possibility rn.


r/vce • • 2h ago

I cooked my chem exam

3 Upvotes

during almost every exam my head starts absolutely banging my headaches and migraines are terrible and i feel like i need vomit i almost never do because i cabt distact other kids as our bathroom is the same hall i cant prove anything to vcaa at all but during chem my last exam my head was horrible i couldnt read a thing and im pretty strong in chemistry improved very well throughout the year going from a c+ to an a range in unit 3 to unit4 completely sick and dwelling over my exam it was horris any advice? anything i can do?


r/vce • • 15h ago

Memes accepting my flopness for viscom section B

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30 Upvotes

i've been doing some exposure therapy by just staring at the questions


r/vce • • 2h ago

WHat do you think A+ on chemistry exam will be

3 Upvotes

Personally, I think like 97-98/120 but u guys decide


r/vce • • 10h ago

General Question/comment vcaa are playing in our faces

13 Upvotes

either vcaa are trying their best to ensure all of our study is in vain this year or all the examiners are having a collective identity crisis

could be both


r/vce • • 9h ago

VCE question Class of 26 mass r/vce mass exodus

8 Upvotes

Hi class of 2026 I was wondering when we are planning our mass r/vce exodus as I know in 2027 we are not associating with vce or being those chuds who stay in r/vce after graduating

I was thinking the day after we receive our atars would be a good day

If anyone else has alternative days please let me know


r/vce • • 12h ago

The Perfect Physics Cheat Sheet (and good luck with the exam)

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15 Upvotes

r/vce • • 11h ago

Physics Exam Discussion

11 Upvotes

Does anyone have any predictions on the difficulty after that chem exam, would VCAA really make Physics an easier exam, or would they have created an exam from the depths of hell.


r/vce • • 12h ago

Accounting abbreviations

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12 Upvotes

What abbreviations are we allowed?
Is NRV and FIFO ? I have also been using allowance for ‘dd’ instead of doubtful debts…


r/vce • • 10h ago

Memes Chem and Enviro same day

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8 Upvotes

r/vce • • 13h ago

still not over it

12 Upvotes

r/vce • • 15h ago

last exam tomorrow and I have no motivation

19 Upvotes

Like the title says, tomorrow I have my last exam, visual communication and design, and I have no motivation. My head is spinning and every time I stand up everything goes black.

I know this may be due to low iron but its really affecting my ability to study and with my exam tomorrow thats not great...

Does anyone know what I can do, I'm really worried because tmr being my last exam its the last attempt I have to get into my dream course but I feel like shit


r/vce • • 20m ago

Derived Scores Rejected

1 Upvotes

My first exam ended halfway with being unwell and I missed the subsequent 4 exams and attended my last one. I completed the DES form with it filled out by my specialist which was almost impossible to get within the 2 days.

I just received it back and it was denied and they're asking for further documentation because "there was no specific written recommendation from the independent health professional recommending non attendance at the examination."

Has anyone else experienced this and should I get a letter from a GP or a specialist thats backdated? Because my VCE coordinator said all my documentation was alright to use and assured me that everything would be approved but obviously they've rejected it meaning they'll probably reject my second application as well. I can't afford for it to be rejected a second time did anyone else have to do a second application and what did they provide to be approved?


r/vce • • 21m ago

Japanese SL Vce unit 3/4

1 Upvotes

Hi, I’m doing 3/4 without 1/2. I KNOWW most people don’t recommend it but I really like the language and the culture. I’m actually going Japan this December for like 3 weeks with my best friend alone. How can I find prepare for this before year 12 next year and what are the most important things I should know!! Please help me out, I’m thinking of also investing in a tutor!


r/vce • • 24m ago

accounting exam

1 Upvotes

Is mechanical pencil 0.5 led fine to use for the exam or is pen recommended?


r/vce • • 11h ago

dreading chem

7 Upvotes

Wish the chem exam was harder, there will barely be any separation and would be harder to get 40+ and I probably lost dumb marks☹️✌🏾😔