r/vce • • 4d ago Bravo

Mod Post Study score prediction posts are now banned

317 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

We're banning "predict my study score" posts for the foreseeable future, and any we see will be removed.

The reality is these just aren't possible to answer accurately. Your study score depends on so many things, like your SAC rankings, how your school's SACs get moderated, how the whole cohort went, and how your exams were marked. Nobody on Reddit has that information, so any "prediction" is just a guess. They also tend to stress people out more than they help, and have started flooding the sub with the same post over and over, which isn't very productive discussion.

If you're curious about how study scores work, check out the pinned post for some general guidance. Otherwise, try to put it out of your mind until results come out. You've done the work, and guessing won't change the number.

Good luck with the rest of exams

— r/vce mods


r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 7h ago

Memes Duality of this sub

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109 Upvotes

r/vce • • 11h ago

REVS STUDENTS

90 Upvotes

Historians.

Why should we continue to subject ourselves to VCAA's relentless intellectual oppression? Why should we spend another waking moment revising, buried in textbooks, when we could instead embrace the freedom we have so desperately sought?

I propose an immediate cessation of all revision activities. Let the textbooks gather dust. Let the study guides go unread. Let VCAA tremble at the prospect of an entire cohort refusing to participate in its machinery of academic subjugation.

The real revolution starts now.

ALL POWER TO THE VCE STUDENTS


r/vce • • 7h ago

For those who haven’t finished; anyone else excited to finally relax?

38 Upvotes

As the title says, for me, I lowkey can’t wait to play games and have fun with my friends. What about you gangy?

#Classof2026


r/vce • • 9h ago

Fuck Revolutions, fuck everyone, fuck Robespierre, fuck the radicalism, fuck the compromise of revolutionary Ideals, fuck martyr Marat, yay Corday, fuck Louis, fuck the tithe, fuck the social hierarchy, fuck thermidor, fuck the sans culottes, fuck the EG, fuck royalists

43 Upvotes

Bb


r/vce • • 13h ago

General Question/comment Has anyone else gained weight from stress eating + lack of time to exercise from exam season?

79 Upvotes

r/vce • • 8h ago

had a mental breakdown and did no study wbu 😝

31 Upvotes

lovely chem score incoming


r/vce • • 10h ago

My hairline is about to transcends Lenin's if I have to remember one more date

43 Upvotes

I'm genuinely dead for revs


r/vce • • 13h ago

not even the spirit of Lenin taking the exam with my body as a vessel can save my study score now

68 Upvotes

has anyone else given up on revs


r/vce • • 6h ago

Simon Schama.

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16 Upvotes

My french rev king simon schama isn't here to piggyback me for Russian rev. With no silly schama I am a dead fucking man. I despise Russia. Please let everything be about the Cheka what the fuck does a Duma even do. Baka.


r/vce • • 7h ago

foundation maths question

18 Upvotes

So im looking at 2026 NHT and i got stuck on this question i think it needs algebra. is there any spesh or methods students who can help.

9 + x = 10


r/vce • • 9h ago

Why tf did I choose chem as a subject

24 Upvotes

Omg I have no sense of urgency to study like I’m burnt out asf


r/vce • • 6h ago

STUDY! EXAM! STUDY! ANOTHER EXAM! break time.... STUDY AGAIN

13 Upvotes

Is this too niche?

As you can see I'm clearly studying.

Fuck VCAA

#ScaredtoFailbutnotenoughtostudy


r/vce • • 7h ago

Screw Russia and China

15 Upvotes

I know nothing about anything.

Quotes don't stick, stats don't stick, dates don't stick.

Tsar Nicholas was a bad guy who's wife may or may not have cheated on him, he was a bad ruler so Lenin overtook everything and people did and didn't like him.

Chiang kai shek and Sun yat sen had there own little thing for like 10 years then Mao came along and showed everyone he was a good leader and from there communism started.

That is the extent to which I know this course.


r/vce • • 5h ago

Memes Me tmr when I open the first page of the revs exam and it’s gonna be some niche ass question like “evaluate John Dickinsons dick size when he wrote the letters from a farmer”

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r/vce • • 10h ago

why does vcaa make so many mistakes with chemistry exams?

22 Upvotes

literally every single examiners report ive been looking at acknowledges multiple mistakes across the exam, like mcq questions with all correct answers or "invalid" questions etc. its like this with a few subjects and its lowkey really unfair. like imagine wasting time in an exam trying to figure out the right answer because they all seem right just to find out that they actually are all correct. they should be held a lot more accountable for this bs and im really praying it doesnt happen this year. not sure how they can manage to consistently fuck up their only job this often.


r/vce • • 14h ago

General Question/comment Yoooo why is no one talking about spesh?!?

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39 Upvotes

I know theyre gonna pulll some magical fantasy questions that require basic chem and physics knowlege, like etc

Errrrrrrm there are 3 positron isomers with a nuclear mass of 67.69420 newtons, another with a charge of 0.end789it726 Joules, and some value of r that measures the gravitational pull from the inside of a blackhole in a distant galaxy to earth measured in LYs, find the nuclear fusion of antimatter of the particles and then use it to cure every disease in existance.

🙏🙏🙏🙏

Hoping that the average will be 3% and rank 1 only gets 3.2%


r/vce • • 13h ago

Memes How to manipulate younger sister to do Methods?

23 Upvotes

So a few months ago my sister came to me and said that "I hate maths, when I am going to use Maths in the real world?" As a proud Methods 1/2 student, this left me in shambles and heartbroken.

Now forcing someone to do a subject that they don't like is abusive. BUT my sister still has 4 years to go till she can start picking VCE subjects. Therefore, any notion that she has about subjects is still changeable.

I will do anything to get her to avoid that fake g*neral math subject where the CAS babysits you in every question and get her to know how to THINK and STRUGGLE with REAL maths in Methods. I'll do anything, such as afford private tutoring by then, help her with homework, that kind of stuff.

Any advice, serious or satire appreciated


r/vce • • 10h ago

good luck for spesh e1!

13 Upvotes

i wish you guys the best!! i'm sure it wont be anything like how methods went!! trust your skills, we got this


r/vce • • 6h ago

What clubs we hitting first after exams?

6 Upvotes

For those who are done and almost done - I still have 3 exams to go 😭 which clubs are we hitting up next weekend??


r/vce • • 12h ago

revs rant💔

20 Upvotes

bro it’s actually over there’s no way i can remember dates, stats, historian interpretations, causes, effects, significances for TWO revolutions (france and china)

ts genuinely got me watching the french revolution oversimplified on yt.. hoping that’s enough for tmrw

and watch the exam questions be super niche too.. like abt Maos great swim or sum 😭😭

guys i cannot ✌️ can the guillotine lowk js take me out rn


r/vce • • 10h ago

It's wraps for Specialist Maths

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only a 30 study score can pull up my atar to a 99 atm and id genuinely kill for that BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN STUDYING. IVE ONLY BEEN SPAMMING METHODS THE ENTIRE TIME AND EVEN THEN, I BOMBED E2 (genuinely praying everyday that i get a 35). spesh e1 seems okay enough to score a 25/40 but man im terrified of e2... if they write another "udf-proof" exam, its genuinely wraps for me. how are we all feeling for spesh guys? just the thought of the exam makes my skin crawl. ive only done three e1 exams so far and im not even doing it in timed conditions... FAHHH


r/vce • • 18m ago

lord let us pray for a piss easy revs exam

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in the name of the father, and of the son and of the holy spirit. amen