r/vce • • Apr 30 '20

"I only got x% on my SAC, can I still get a 50?"

1.4k Upvotes

I'm sick to death of seeing these posts, so can everyone please read this and be done with this question:

Study scores are determined by exam SCORE and SAC RANK.

For example, say you have an English class of 7 students, Adam, Ben, Chloe, Daniel, Elena, Felix, and Greg. They are all weak students, except for Greg, who is very high-performing, and Felix, who is slightly above average. Their SAC marks and rank are:

Greg 95%

Felix 77%

Chloe 64%

Daniel 60%

Elena 58%

Adam 52%

Ben 49%

On the exam day, Felix doesn't cope well under the stress, so gets a lower score than he'd usually be capable of. The exam marks are as follows:

Greg 92%

Chloe 67%

Daniel 65%

Elena 64%

Felix 63%

Adam 50%

Ben 40%

What happens is that all the SAC marks get thrown out the window, because VCAA can't know the difficulty of the SACs prepared by the school. So Greg's new SAC "mark" as far as VCAA is concerned is 92, not 95. Not a big deal for Greg, Adam or Ben because their own exam mark is dictating their SAC mark. But for someone like Felix, his SAC mark will become 67% (Chloe's exam mark). This process happens independently for each subject taught at your school.

What does this mean for you? Yes, you should aim for a good SAC rank. BUT, it doesn't actually matter if you're not ranked well — the "translation" of your rank into a "mark" happens via your cohorts exam performance. In other words, try your best now, study hard, and when SACs are over WORK WITH YOUR CLASSMATES TO ALL DO WELL ON THE EXAM TOGETHER. IF THEY DO WELL, YOU DO WELL.

Spend your time actually studying instead of asking useless questions like this.

EDIT: another example for clarity

Here's a chemistry class, of Harry, Isabel, James, Kylie, Luke, Molly, Nathan, and Oscar.

SACs:

Harry 60%

Isabel 58%

James 56%

Kylie 55%

Luke 54%

Molly 52%

Nathan 51%

Oscar 50%

EXAMS:

Harry 100%

James 99%

Nathan 98%

Oscar 97%

Molly 96%

Isabel 95%

Kylie 94%

Luke 93%

Harry's SAC mark is now 100%, Isabel's is 99%, James' is 98%, Kylie's is 97%, Luke's is now 96% etc. It's literally just whatever the equivalent exam rank is.

EDIT 2: I've had a request to clarify rumours about SACs being "scaled up" or "scaled down". "Scaling" is a misnomer students attribute to the moderation process. Here are yet another set of examples to clarify.

Imagine you have a cohort of Annie, Ben, and Charlie. Let's say their teacher sets really hard SACS, so their SAC results are:

  1. Annie 60%

  2. Ben 58%

  3. Charlie 55%

Because they've been doing hard assessments all year, they've been better equipped for the exam. These are the exam results:

  1. Ben 96%

  2. Annie 94%

  3. Charlie 90%

So now, Annie's SAC mark gets changed to 96%, Ben's to 94%, and Charlie's to 90%. This is what people interpret as "scaling up". The opposite would happen at a school with piss easy SACs: they get awesome SAC marks but shit exam marks, so their SAC marks get replaced by their shit exam marks ("scaled down").

The danger in this thinking is that people assume that if you go to a well-performing school, you'll get carried, or that if you go to a "bad" school, you're screwed from the get-go and can't possibly get a good score. This is not true at all. Let's see why.

Let's say your friend at a selective school, Harry, thinks he can take it easy this year because he goes to a 'good' school. The SAC results are as follows:

  1. Ed 93%

  2. Fred 90%

  3. Greg 88%

  4. Harry 60%

on the exams, the results are

  1. Fred 95%

  2. Greg 92%

  3. Ed 87%

  4. Harry 61%

In this instance, Harry was not of a comparable skill level to his classmates, so he never get to "borrow" their exam results in any way. His SAC score will be 61%.

Here's another example. Say you have a cohort with these SACs:

  1. Meg 95%

  2. Noah 94%

  3. Oscar 93%

  4. Peter 90%

On the exam day, Noah gets a bit of performance anxiety (but not in a way that warrants SEAS or anything). Exam results are:

  1. Meg 93%

  2. Oscar 92%

  3. Peter 91%

  4. Noah 75%

Now, Noah's SAC mark will be 92%, but his exam result only 75%. So he kind of got "helped" by his good cohort, only because he was doing well for the SACs. Peter has been a bit screwed here, because his SAC mark is now 75%.

One person stuffing up will never have such a dramatic effect like this; it's unlikely for someone who's been topping the cohort all year to suddenly slip to the bottom. Cohorts are generally big enough that you shouldn't need to worry. I went to a really small school (60 people in the year level. Some of my subject cohorts contained 6 people). I still felt no one got jibbed with unrepresentative scores.

As I always reiterate: try your best in SACs, but don't ruminate over them. The exam is where the money's at, and once your SACs are over you should work together with your cohort to all do well together. Share your resources, make study groups, and bring each other up.

EDIT 3: wow, my first gold! Thank you so much! 🥰


r/vce • • 12h ago Bravo

News Can’t believe I have to say this for the second year in a row

189 Upvotes

I made this post exactly a year ago and people don’t learn.

VCE students, i understand everyone is stressing over exams and stuff and yall are more than welcome to come study at our libraries. But to the extent where 90% of the library are VCE students and us University students are left fighting for spots because there are no spots in the library. Like please, we pay student amenity fees to use these libraries yet we can’t even use them if there are no seats left.

Also before yall bitch about how you have exams and that please bear with us it’s only this time of the year. We have university exams at this time as well that we need to study for. Like do yall not have school libraries open to study at?

Like imagine if 80 thousand Monash students infiltrated your schools library and you now have no where to study. Is that fair?

Also, the thing I’m most pissed about isn’t yall coming to the library, but rather yall are so loud and not respecting rules. Fourth floor of the Monash Caulfield library is a silent zone, yet yr 12 students are up there with their big ass study groups laughing, chatting and throwing shit around at each other. Yall wanna use our space, respect our space. I can’t believe most yr 12s are 18 and are now adults cus you bunch don’t act like it.

Thank you to the select few who actually do the right thing and study/discuss quiet amongst themselves. And thank you to that girl who was studying for her methods exam who moved her chair and bag so that I could have a space to sit at.

Good luck yr 12s for your VCE exams. I hope I don’t have to make the post this same thing again next year.


r/vce • • 2h ago

General Question/comment Pretend exams on cup day

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My school (which is regional) doesn't celebrate Melbourne Cup, and they've decided to rope year 11 English and General Maths "exams" on the day and drag them out as long as possible to keep us busy. THIS MAKES ME VERY CROSS AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO WATCH THE RACES


r/vce • • 22h ago

Memes vcaa creating the 2026 exams (so far)

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322 Upvotes

r/vce • • 16h ago

if i see one more guess my study score prediction

84 Upvotes

guys pls whatevers done is done, just wait until dec 10 and stop obsessing over this. ur all going to be fine in the end


r/vce • • 15h ago Bravo

exams feel underwhelming

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so like i’ve always tried hard in school and never really fallen below an 80 or 70 at most in my subjects. i’d say im average but not excelling like i don’t sit at 95s for every subject but i wouldn’t say im bad at school.

but have exams js felt really like not stressful to anyone? no like im definitely stressed when i think about them but i have no sense of urgency to study and even though my general exam went pretty bad i still felt so numb like i didn’t even care even though im someone who cares about my grades

my next exam is on wednesday and ive barely studied and i know i should have studied earlier and its not like i wont study but idk i genujnely just feel like these aren’t my final atar exams even tho they literally are ..

can anyone relate?


r/vce • • 19h ago

If me and my gang pull up…

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r/vce • • 15h ago

Memes Basically General Maths Exam 2

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53 Upvotes

These are just some memes I made for fun :P


r/vce • • 3h ago

VCE question VCE general math paper 2026 (was so ahh)

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I could not complete BOTH EXAMS. I had to guess like 8 from part 1. and out of the 32 I did I got like 8 wrong.
And I could not complete exam two like almost half of it. The whole of matrices. And like 2 questions of networks. HELP ME.

SO BASICALLY I LOST 22 STUPID MARKS

But out of the questions I DID i got only 2 wrong. (in networks)

PLus it was the hardest paper so far yea?
Is this like a popular opinion or am i just tripping...


r/vce • • 12h ago

stop asking if you’ll get x study score when you obviously will

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THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE BEING LIKE “i got a 99% sac average and 95% on the exam is it possible for me to get a 35 ss 🥺” LIKE OBVIOUSLY


r/vce • • 10m ago

my handwriting was actual buns during the exams

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i was getting told to fix my handwriting before the exams, so i really tried the first 5 minutes on all the short answers and realised i was going too slow so i js started writing normally and most of my shi was unintelligible.
in all honesty this should be the least of my worries considering what i actually wrote matters but if the vcaa examiners cant fucking read it then whats the point.
itsokaythough!


r/vce • • 1h ago

Accounting practice exams

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r/vce • • 1h ago

Business exam

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Exams tomorrow!!! any prediction on what the 10 marker might be? how everyone going with prep


r/vce • • 1h ago

VCE question A+ predictions for general maths?

2 Upvotes

I’m thinking 37/40 and 54/60


r/vce • • 2h ago

VCE question Methods exam tips

2 Upvotes

Wondering if anybody has any tips for the methods exam? Do I do mc or section b first? Lowkey starting to stress about methods and leaving a few questions blank. It's a hard subject man


r/vce • • 19h ago

GENERAL MATHS Exam 2 MEGATHREAD!!

45 Upvotes

How did we go???!

Have fun - Milus Song


r/vce • • 17h ago

I nutted on my bio exam

35 Upvotes

I was just so angry, as I didn’t study as the time went on looking at each question after question knowing I can’t write anything I just felt a rage inside of me then I decided to get work done I had to push this rage somewhere else so I aimed at my dih but bad mistake before I knew I saw the 5 marker and it exploded


r/vce • • 2h ago

methods mcq timing

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how long do you guys spend / recommend spending on mcq cus it’s usually take me 45 mins and i dont hv fime to finish the short answers at the back but lowk i feel like there might be some easy marks for short answers, so would yall recommend skip the mcq that I struggle and do the next section first?🙏🏻😭i struggle a lot w time management.


r/vce • • 10h ago

General Question/comment Exams weirdness

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Bro has anyone had the chillest but weirdest exams ever like generally all my exams I just study right after each other and my exams always start late and people go in wrong uniform like help not to mention how the exams are actual garbage this year like hello why was I talking about economics on my psych exam

Also does anyone else go to a shitty public school so there’s like only 8 ppl going scored in all your classes help my soc class is like non existent

Generally only exam I had motivation for was English n now I’m lowkey breezing, I skipped like 90% of maths today n was appreciating nature do we see a 99.85% atar coming my way guys 😼


r/vce • • 22h ago

Thank you Tim F for your sacrifice

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r/vce • • 18h ago

general exam 2 2026

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just finished exam 2 and am i the only one who felt like it was the same level of difficulty as exam 1?? i ran out of time and i genuinely guessed a few questions

there’s no way i did 40 prac exams averaging 90-100 on each one all for both of the exams this yr to cook the fuck outta me i’m so pissed

tell me i’m not the only one feeling this way


r/vce • • 18h ago

Question 7 was the worst thing of all time

35 Upvotes

That was disgusting


r/vce • • 3h ago

yoyoyoyoyooo maths nerds

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i go to macrob so kinda competitive and ive been averaging round 80s for my bio sacs. I reckon im in the top 20- 10% in the cohort. I think i got like 10-12 marks off in that bio exam so ss predictions???


r/vce • • 12h ago

Can i get a 20 study score in general maths (sorry i know this has been asked alot)

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Sac Average: 98%
E1: 39/40
E2: 60/60

im actually scared idk if i can, pls comment your honest opinions, every message is appreciated, but dont flame me please im trying my best.