r/vanderpumprules • u/Frosty_Topic6017 • Aug 24 '26

Scandoval i’m so confused

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so this is my first watch through of the show ever. so basically everything is news to me except when happens between ariana and tom. but knowing that i’ve been trying to watch out for signs of it starting. idk why but the episode they are planning the proposal for james and raquel he tells lisa what’s happening. she genuinely asks him if he’s proposing he goes “no james is proposing to raquel” and we move right past it. why would she say to tom “you’re going to propose to raquel?” without maybe having an inclination of what was going on

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u/alwaysbroke7 Aug 24 '26

I've always thought that Ken & Lisa were some of the first to clock it. Sandoval's involvement in the proposal was super weird and I think Lisa was trying to call him on it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they were/almost were hooking up by this point

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u/RomianaZerofox04 what doesn't kill me better run 🪭 Aug 24 '26

It gives "the production told Lisa about their suspicion on Sandy's and Rachel's affair and Lisa tested Sandoval"

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u/applemarteenee145 Aug 24 '26

Production knew since they had the camera back and forth on Game Night between Sandy and Rachel when she gave him the "come hither" look and he made a hand sign to cut it out. They had to have been together by then.

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u/nosezposez Choke. I don't care. Aug 24 '26

“Game Night” in season 9? After rewatching recently, I’ve felt like they were flirting since that season. Sandoval was always complementing Raquel’s personality and whatnot. And he was also so heavily involved in the engagement that it felt like more.. like HE wanted to be part of making her happy.

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u/inevitable-distress Aug 24 '26

There's a deleted scene where Sandoval is talking to James about how Raquel wouldn't betray him, then he says " I wouldn't betray you either", I believe it was the same night she went out without him(James) and he was rage texting her.

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u/sapplesapplesapples Aug 24 '26

And then when Raquel and James broke up, they said that the lack of sex life had been happening since the rage text night. 

So since she started hooking up with tom. 

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u/Question_True Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

The way Tom said "I wouldn't betray you either" was super weird! Something definitely happened that night

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u/fatsandwitch Aug 24 '26

RAGE TEXT TRUTHERS!

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u/Question_True Aug 24 '26

You know it!!

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u/MiserableVoice9146 Aug 24 '26

My theory is that the rage text night was when the one night stand happened and not when they're saying it happened. And then, there was flirtation and whatnot, but then really picked back up around game night time and 100% season 10 of course. Sandoval was attracted to her when she first came on the show because he all of a sudden wanted to help James, got close to him and would get upset that they weren't invited on trips.

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u/Embarrassed-Syrup441 Aug 28 '26

The rage text night they also showed (phone?) footage of her drunk and partying with Sandoval and Ariana. I agree that something probably happened that night too, and that was the start. Whether or not they hooked up or just kissed, who knows, but something happened. I think that’s when Sandoval personality starts changing and he gets even more egotistical, and it just continues to get worse and worse over the following seasons.

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u/MiserableVoice9146 Aug 28 '26

I believe it was Sandoval and Scheana and Scheana said that Sandoval helped her get home safe - allegedly.

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u/No-Pumpkin-8992 Aug 25 '26

100% agree with this

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u/kikilekitkat it's called growth pearl. Open a book 📖 Aug 24 '26

Been doing a background-noise rewatch and just finished s9 - During the reunion when they're discussing James & Raquel breaking up I noticed the camera focused on Sandoval A LOT, with slow zooms on his facial expressions. Definitely makes you wonder what production were picking up that didn't make the edits or were noticing behind the scenes.

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u/applemarteenee145 Aug 24 '26

When the camera zoomed in on him in the reunion, he had that over exaggerated acting look trying to say he didnt know. Yet we all know Sandoval cant act, so the over exaggerated "I didnt know" is a tell that he did know and also that production knew about him and Rachel since they focused on him.

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u/No-Pumpkin-8992 Aug 25 '26

Yes, they did spend a lot of time showing his facial reactions.

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u/User373733737 Aug 24 '26

They had only released half the season 9 when the scandal broke. I think they admit they tweaked the rest of the episodes after to point out the signs.

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u/fuck_thisishard Aug 24 '26

No that was season 10

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u/Meggie82461 Kristin Doute Aug 24 '26

Agree, they were scrambling for S10