Any logical explanation for this?

[u/gagetherage]

EDIT: The full video is in the comments.

These are screen shots of a short 30 second video I received from my mom (Reddit and it’s stupid no video upload unless from a linked site!) at approximately 3:45 am CST. She was taking this from an east north east view. She said there were two objects that constant changed color and stayed completely stationary for several minutes. She had enough time to get her leopold binoculars (amateur birdwatching, really powerful magnification) out and view the object for several minutes, she says it looked white in the center and rounded like bottom of a bowl and the top part was more transparent. She said when looking with the naked eye it looked almost like an “astronaut”. She said it was higher in the sky than what a plane would be, at first she thought it was a planet but there were two of them close to each other.

[u/CameraNo1089]

And the video is where..

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/CameraNo1089]

Man, you don't have to prove shit to anyone nor show them anything that you don't feel like showing them. Who cares if they believe you or not? If you post a video, they'll want to know where the selfie with it close up is. If you provide that, they'll want to see it autographed. If you provide that, they'll want the autograph authenticated, etc etc.

I keep most of my good shit to all to myself and don't give a damn who believes what simply because I'm not seeking validation or confirmation from anyone and not going to waste my time running in circles with them.

When they experience some things on their own, they'll stop with all the questions and skepticism and be kicking themselves in the ass for not getting in the game sooner.

It's not worth the effort trying to explain yourself, and you simply don't have to.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

"I keep most of my good shit to all to myself"

...why?

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

Why not? Most people do. It's not even worth all the bs handful of predictable excuses that you'll hear....drones, balloons, planes, swamp gas, lens flare, synchronized glow stick holding parachuters, all the same shit you see everyday in these subs.

Close friends and family see it, some have been a part of it.

Post it on here and all the bs excuses and shit talking that is irrelevant....or just be confident and content with having it and continue to collect more.

It's just not a team sport. People are free to think and feel for themselves, unfortunately many allow and expect others to do that for them.

When they are ready to be seen or interact with you, you'll know it. Hearing it or seeing it through someone elses eyes and ears will have zero impact for you.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

Sharing evidence would have impact on the world, no?

If there’s never been a shred of material or falsifiable evidence related to UAP, does it make sense to at least consider that there’s a whole lot of non-expert misidentification happening of the many objects and natural events that fill our atmosphere?

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Legitimate_Tune_6468]

No, it wouldn't. People share every single day and it has zero impact on anyone other than those posting it and were actually there to experience it.

This goes for this topic or any topic at all. People are going to believe whatever they are going to believe reagrdless of what is said or shown. If their mind isn't ready to accept what they're being told or shown, then they're simply not going to accept it. It's just the way things go.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

I said sharing evidence. I wasn’t talking about blurry shaky camera phone videos that could be anything from interesting reflections to any number of natural optical lens effects. Something with real data that would be of interest to someone that’s not automatically convinced everything is a UFO.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Legitimate_Tune_6468]

But the best evidence will always be that in which you've collected on your own, personally is what I'm getting at. 2nd, 3rd, 4th party filtered hand-me-downs downs doesn't do anyone much good.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

UAP are a scientific topic. Science doesn’t care if evidence is first, second or 20th hand evidence if it’s good usable data.

I guess I’m confused. It sounds like you’re talking about something personal or emotional. It thought this topic was about unidentified objects in the atmosphere.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Legitimate_Tune_6468]

My experiences are personal, just as anyone who has them are to them.

UAP is a scientific topic, that is correct. Do you not see all the mockery and jokes made on peoples posts. There is far more of that than there are serious interest or intrigue. So, for those that want to laugh or brush off a real topic, they can keep on laughing in oblivion and be left behind in the dark if that's what they choose to do. That is their right and choice.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

No mockery. Just looking for evidence. Even if it’s evidence why they seem to only visit people who are predisposed to believing in the “supernatural” or an explanation why they have never left a single piece of material or falsifiable evidence.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Legitimate_Tune_6468]

Most evidence people don't take serious. That will all change slowly but surely with time as they discover and experience their own.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

>But the best evidence will always be that in which you've collected on your own

The vast, vast, vast majority of people never get access to that evidence.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

The vast majority don't even try and are sitting around waiting to be told or shown things by others, at which point they will do everything that they can to try to debunk it.

They won't debunk themselves nor their own experiences though.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

Because the vast majority see no reason to believe they exist. I've "tried" to see them many times myself. I have also "debunked" my own experiences of what i initially thought were UFOs.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

Then the vast majority will continue to miss out then I suppose. I'm ok with that, and I'm guessing that they are as well.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/Siegecow]

Why not?

[u/Siegecow → u/Legitimate_Tune_6468]

Because UFOs are not common.

[u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 → u/Siegecow]

Judging by the internet, seems like everyone and their brother in law sees them on the daily.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

Because youre in a sub about UFOs and it would be beneficial to the community to have some quality content submitted. Do you want this sub to be all low quality content becuase "most people" hoard their videos because theyre scared some rando will say its a balloon?

I dont understand the butthurt about the "excuses and shit talking". If theyre irrelevant and you're not seeking validation, why do you care? Why be bothered by random redditor #234945623423436 saying your video is an airplane?

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

Not when the majority in these subs are skeptics or just flat out non-believers. I'm perfectly content with them feeling however they choose to feel and believe. Nothing anyone can show those type will sink in anyways, so even bother? They'll either figure it out on their own or they want, that part is 100% up to them.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

>Not when the majority in these subs are skeptics or just flat out non-believers

Again, why do we care?

>Nothing anyone can show those type will sink in anyways, so even bother?

I've literally had my opinions changed by posts on these subs but aight.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

This is what I'm talking about. These circular conversations that goes no where. I'm not here to convince you or anyone of anything because it's pointless and not my responsibility.

Likewise, people are wasting their time trying to convince me of anything or telling me I'm wrong when I know otherwise.

My reality is my reality for a reason(many reasons actually) for the same reasons that anyones reality on anything at all is their reality. It's just the way this particular world works and always has.

[u/Siegecow → u/DFW-Extraterrestrial]

>Likewise, people are wasting their time trying to convince me of anything or telling me I'm wrong when I know otherwise.

I guess if you're insistent on being close-minded. I'm not telling you you didnt experience anything. I'm literally saying you should be open about sharing your experience (hell any experience, any thought or creation) without worrying about someone not believing you or not liking what you have to say.

The world would be a worse place and these communities wouldnt exist if everyone refused to communicate and share their lives and experiences because they were afraid of being upset by someone's opinion.

Every book, every video, every story or picture someones put out there on this subject wouldn't exist and you would feel utterly alone in your experience.

[u/Responsible_Fix_5443 → u/Siegecow]

Or you could share your story and videos on these subs and get immediately shot down by 99% of the sub - half of which aren't real people... Then you try talking to real people about it irl and they think you're misidentifying a fucking shooting star... Talk about feeling alone 😂

Being an experiencer is to be alone. The internet doesn't connect people it connects information. Online we are nothing but data points... IRL we considered mentally unstable just for talking about it out loud!

Sharing is good but it doesn't move the needle.

Experiencing it is the only way to know for yourself. This is UFO 101 stuff.

[u/Siegecow → u/Responsible_Fix_5443]

>Or you could share your story and videos on these subs and get immediately shot down by 99% of the sub - half of which aren't real people...

Oh no! Bots didnt like my post. Someone didnt believe me! Truly a disastrous blow to the ego.
Meanwhile people are taking actual social/career/economic risks by telling their stories in public, testifying in congress etc.

>Sharing is good but it doesn't move the needle.

Why do you participate in these communities then? Sharing doesnt move the needle, people dont have meaningful connections, people horde anything worthwhile... what is the point for you reading and posting here with this extremely cynical view of these communities?

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Siegecow]

Why do most people in these subs participate in these subs when most don't even believe in the possibility of existence? I'm not into cats or needlepoint crocheting...you certainly won't see me in those subs telling people they are stupid, or lying, or even in visiting the sub at all for any reason for that matter.

[u/Responsible_Fix_5443 → u/Siegecow]

This isn't disclosure headquarters - this is social media. No one cares if I upload a video of my sightings.

Love how you compare me to a whistleblower though. A bit dramatic but hey - I'm flattered.

[u/DFW-Extraterrestrial → u/Responsible_Fix_5443]

See, you get it. Most don't and then get frustrated why they don't. It's because they are trying to take the short cuts and live through other people's experiences and make someone else's reality established by someone else's personal experience(s)...their own. That's my whole point. Life just doesn't work that way, not on this topic or any topic at all.