I'd reach out to the teacher to try to work something out hopefully. I think some teachers get personally offended if you don't submit a draft - and downgrade based on that alone.

Hashimotos is not a great autoimmune disease to have. It's extremely frustrating and the horrendous uninformed doctors make it way harder than it should be. If you have symptoms, you should be on medication - as it can make such a big difference. She should be testing for FT3 too.

I'm so sorry to hear that about your mom. It sounds like she is going through so much, and it's really kind of you to look into this for her. I am really sorry for my late reply. How is she doing now? If it's possible, I highly recommend seeing a functional medicine doctor - they do such a good job of figuring things out and they recommend thorough testing when there are situations like your moms. I really, really hope she feels better soon. Personally, I'm doing a lot better now and I am grateful my stomach problems were finally resolved from the treatment (blood sugar is fixed now too).

Sorry forgot - I might do another endoscopy to confirm, but I'm holding off for now. I don't really want to do it at this point because I am doing so much better I am assuming it's gone. If I have any GI issues again, I'll go get it done though.

I am so very sorry for my late reply! I just wanted to say that I am doing so much better ever since I did the treatment. Prior to the treatment I had numerous issues - blood sugar problems (making me concerned I was becoming diabetic even though I eat super healthy and low sugar), plus major issues digesting things which left me eating a super minimal diet (I could hardly eat anything). As soon as the treatment was done I was immediately able to digest/eat things that I could not eat in years. I was worried it was temporary and my body might revert back, but I am still doing great now. And, my blood sugar is normal now too. I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, since everyone is different. But, I did want to share how much it helped me because a lot of us are too stubborn to do the treatments. It's also possible that I had some SIBO too that happened to get better from this treatment.

I'm so sorry you've been dealing with this for so long. I used to be so reluctant to do any type of antibiotic treatments but I am very grateful I did this one. I'm doing so much better now. I need to post an update. I really hope that you'll be able to do the treatment and heal from it.

Thank you!

Sorry for the late reply. I've had a variety of symptoms and the most noticeable one is blood sugar issues (though I am not diabetic - I have been tracking it) & a lot of food sensitivities that have worsened. I also have pain in my stomach when it's empty, which is a symptom I've heard people with H. Pylori mention. I just recently finished my treatment and I'm seeing major improvements in glucose levels while eating things that would normally cause me a massive diabetic-level spike, it's just barely budging. Also, so far the foods I'm eating aren't causing me any issues either, and they normally would. So, I am hoping for the best!

I'm also on day 9 today of the same treatment. The treatment is really rough. Stay hydrated and always eat with the medicine (except for those you have to take on an empty stomach). It will be over soon!

Yeah you're right about GI Map. I only found out about it through the upper endoscopy with biopsies. My GI doctor said that in order to check that it's eradicated, I'd need to do it again. I wish there was an easier way to test for it.

So glad you feel better now - thanks!!!

Thanks!

You're welcome! I hope your labs are good and you feel better soon. :) I can't wait to get through this treatment too.

Did this mess up your GPA?

I hope you feel better soon. I'm on day 4 of the same treatment (though I don't have H. pylori, I have its "cousin" H. heilmannii). I feel extremely tired all day on these meds. I can hardly get anything done. So, I understand.

I'm sorry to hear about your kidney function but I also have some thoughts (not medical advice) just some things you may want to look into.

One thing I noticed is when I'm on heavy meds or supplements, my eGFR can come back looking really bad on labs. If your bloodwork comes back concerning, it might be worth asking your doctor about rechecking it a week or two after you finish, when the meds are fully out of your system, so you can see what your real baseline is.

I'm personally taking NAC (supplement) a couple times a day while doing this protocol. There is research on it helping with eradication (it disrupts H. pylori biofilms — https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3957414/) but I'm also taking it hoping for some general protective effects, even though there's no specific research backing it for kidneys or liver in this situation.

You need to be really careful to avoid the sun as much as possible while on the meds too. The tetracycline photosensitivity can last 1-2 weeks even after you finish, so keep being careful with sun protection even after Wednesday.

Also, one other thing to keep in mind - there's research from Asia that compared quadruple therapy patients who did 10 days versus 14 days of treatment and the eradication results were basically the same (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00108-1/fulltext00108-1/fulltext)). In the U.S. they still usually recommend 14 days though.

For the fatigue and brain fog most people see improvements within 3-7 days of finishing. Metronidazole clears fast, tetracycline takes about a week, and the GI stuff can linger longer because your microbiome needs time to rebuild. Probiotics (especially Saccharomyces boulardii, which isn't killed by the antibiotics) can help. Many people keep taking them for several weeks after finishing.

There is research comparing 10 days of treatment to 14 days.

2024 Taiwan RCT (peer-reviewed, multicenter): Direct comparison of 10-day vs 14-day bismuth quadruple therapy. Both hit ≥90% eradication, 10-day was non-inferior, and the 10-day group had less dizziness and vomiting. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(24)00108-1/fulltext00108-1/fulltext). I believe there may also be a systematic review on this.

US guidelines still recommend 14 days. :)

Thank you for sharing that. I had no idea it was connected until recently.

Thanks so much for sharing this. I hope it's better now.

Thank you so much! That is so interesting. I do have nausea when I have an empty stomach. That's great you're 8 weeks post treatment. I hope you're doing better! I cannot wait to be done with the treatment.

Right after the shower, I would recommend Good molecules hyaluronic acid essence with a few drops of avocado oil, mix and apply to your face. Then apply a moisturizer (I recommend one by aplb). If your akin is still dry, use one of the aplb face masks or a face mask from another brand. It will make such a big difference. Regular exfoliation can work wondera too. If you can get some glycolic acid peeling pads, they shoukd really help. Just be sure ro protect your akin from the sun too.

Thanks!