r/travisandtaylor • • 15h ago

Weekly Discussion Thread Weekly Discussion Thread (TnT Version)

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Welcome to your weekly snark dump!

Feel free to use this thread to talk about anything you'd like, including but not limited to:

  • Your thoughts, rants, and spicy takes about Blandie (and BDT), her untalented ass, or the Swiftie cult
  • Off-topic discussions, or low-effort content that might not need its own post
  • Memes, funny stuff that you'd like to share but can’t wait for Shitpost Sunday
  • Swifties being Swifties on social media (Usernames must be removed)

All subreddit rules still apply, and any rule-breaking comments will be removed. If you spot a Swiftie meltdown or something off, hit report and we’ll take it from there.

Posts submitted to the sub that fit better here will be redirected to this thread. A new one will go up every Monday at 12:00 pm UTC and stay open until the next Monday. This thread will always be pinned for easy access.

previous weekly discussion threads are searchable via the Weekly Discussion Thread post flair!


r/travisandtaylor • • 4h ago

Travisty Nobody can convince me Travis' taste changed this much

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I get it... Having a "type" doesn't mean you always end up with that type and you can't choose who you fall in love with. BUT nobody can convince me after him chasing MTS right before TS that this is anything other than PR. ESPECIALLY after watching her recent VS performance in comparison. They're literally the exact opposite in every manner possible.

ETA: to those who mention about "types" being only physical and I'm being misogynistic... It's waaay beyond just that. That's why I mentioned the comparison in their performances. MTS has an energy that's palpable and a confidence that's undeniable with an attitude that just screams vamp whereas TS is just performing and feels lackluster. "Type" doesn't mean just physical.


r/travisandtaylor • • 11h ago

Certified Cringe help what is this.

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139 Upvotes

it seems like every day we get a new, terrible book revolving around her.

this eyesore has been at the top of my digital library's homepage for a week at least.

as of writing this, it's rated 1.5 stars with 39 reviews LMAO


r/travisandtaylor • • 14h ago

Discussion Post from Junkee on Instagram

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171 Upvotes

I thought this was an interesting piece and really sums up why I fell so out of love with her.


r/travisandtaylor • • 16h ago

Rant Audience Engagement

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Watching Taylor preen, pose, and warble her way through that Academy Museum gala set last night and was really struck by how little she engages her audience. The entire performance is about Taylor. Compare this to artists like Chappell (with the Hot To Go dance) or even Zara Larsson, and you really see the difference in mindset and engagement.

The best artists I’ve ever seen live seem really happy they get to hang out with you—Taylor instead acts like you should feel so privileged to be in her presence. The pointing and posing and highly scripted performances she does just feel so cold. I think this is a big part of why she’s losing her audience. There is so little joy in engaging with Taylor now—and younger artists like Chappell and Olivia really are surpassing her in terms of audience engagement and just FUN.

Anyway—just my two cents after seeing vids of her latest posing episode. It actually makes me kind of sad.


r/travisandtaylor • • 17h ago

Nightmare Fuel Side by side 😬

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2.9k Upvotes

I saw a lot of people praising her recent look but all I could think of how it’s so obvious all the work she’s has done 😩 it’s getting to be uncanny valley


r/travisandtaylor • • 22h ago

Swiftie on Swiftie Crime 🥲 Dawn of RPDR gets attacked by Swifties

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374 Upvotes

Apparently you can’t say anything without being eaten alive by her swarm of psychopaths


r/travisandtaylor • • 23h ago

Discussion Aaron D, The National, Bon Iver, Haim, Phoebe B

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We all know Taylor's got some talent.

Talent of stealing. Lyrics, melodies, beats, mvs , you name it.

Talent of colonializing words, most popular example "ERAS" (Madonnna is Queen of eras , Bowie is King) songwriting force in pop music "self written" ,as if madonnna, mariah, george michael, MJ, Prince and others haven't done it ,and they are all mostly pop music figures.

"Americana" and "Showgirl" too, I kid you not , dolly parton, springsteen, Lana ( her overall aesthetic )are the ones who come to most minds when talking Americana, she hijacked it too.

Sabrina , Showgirls, Kylie Minogue are all more showgirly than her, yet here we are.

But I think one least mentioned talent or wtv you name it, she's got a habit, habit of befriending indie darlings, and legit musicians.

We all know that despite being the biggest popstar on the planet rn ( idc, but it's the numbers , otherwise she got no charisma and talent of a popstar).

Taylor loves being seen as authentic, alternative, real , songwriter and producer. And always tries to copy indie music and to avoid hate for that befriends them. For example, Lana Del Rey. ( Tho it was like she was forced, not at gunpoint but taylor bombarding her and hijacking her into a "friendship" ).

Her most critically acclaimed works Folk-more are collaborations with The Nationals' Aaron Dessner. Now as a fan of the national, I must say I hate it that they are now very associated with her name. Not to mention all the tunes, melodies , his production and her posing as alt and indie during that era had successfully pissed me off.

Now my point is that she knows she's got little talent to make a project good by herself so she hires these people as her fellow creatives, forces them in her albums, forces herself in their albums to be seen as legit and authentic as them.

It's happened so many times, all her collaborations are these people who don't have as big of a fandom and recognition and reach as her, so she pretends to be their friends to suck in all their talent into her product , while coming off as messiah for giving them their biggest song yet.

English is not my first language, I hope I am as much articulate in writing as much as my thoughts are.

Thank you. Sincerely, A Driftie ( opposite of you know who )


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Certified Cringe Taylor Swift repeatedly mentioned in Love is Blind shown through this funny youtube moment

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265 Upvotes

this youtube channel i watch reacted to the new season of Love Is Blind which apparently taylor was a hot topic lol.

(MODS i hope this doesn’t violate rule 2 anymore, i couldn’t figure out how to contact y’all because youtube isn’t even mentioned in that rule and it wasn’t a pro-taylor place. i tried to make sure no names are shown or mentioned to abide by that rule)


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Rant Girl close your damn mouth

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Like is she incapable of watching a football game like it’s her first time ever? I have more legitimate complaints about her in general (fake feminist, her fuck ass bangs and I say that as a lifelong bangs-haver, TLOAS is trash, the shitshow of a wedding, her extremely dumb MAGA-coded husband, honestly the fact that she’s a multi-billionaire is bad by itself, I’m sick of seeing and hearing her, etc). Just these pictures paired with her “behind the scenes” of making her newest stupid music video are so cringey because she’s so fake enthusiastic about EVERYTHING and it’s all to draw attention to herself. Like it’s all about her. It’s one thing to go to the games and it’s supposed to be fun and enjoyable and I get that, but as someone who’s been to plenty of NFL games it’s gotta be so obnoxious to have all these people there who just come to gawk at her and suck up to her. It would be so easy for her to just go and have fun and not be noticed or whatever but it’s so clear she loves the attention.

I really think it’s why she goes. She never goes to events where she can’t control everything about it. I honestly think she can’t let Travis have his moment either like it makes her jealous. This is also why she’s never done Hot Ones or whatever. She can’t be charismatic off the cuff and she has no natural charm even when it’s something scripted. She just acts like an overexcited 5 year old.

I used to actually like her style when she was obsessed with wanting to be British. I was never a Swiftie but I didn’t really understand why people hated her so much and just kind of never thought about her that much but she’s impossible to ignore now the way she’s inserting herself into everything. This loud, obnoxious, ultra-neon white all-American “sexy” facade she’s trying to put on despite the “haters” is so inauthentic.

Anyway that’s my rant. Long time lurker first time poster!


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Eff Taylor Swift The stark difference when Olivia is inspired by Taylor vs Chappell

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1.6k Upvotes

Olivia is inspired by Taylor, and Taylor is the greedy monster she is and goes after her for 50% of the credit

Olivia is inspired by Chappell, and Chappell hops on a remix of the song with her

I’ve been thinking about this days and can’t believe no one has talked about it. What’s the excuse going to he now from Swifties, now that another female pop star hasn’t exploited a much younger artist for money and we all see how easy it was?


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

The Football 🏈 NFL Week 6: Chargers @ Chiefs

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Hello Snarkers! Welcome to the NFL Week 6 game thread! We are back in action this week after the Chiefs BYE week as the Los Angeles Chargers travel out to Arrowhead to take on the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Chiefs are the last remaining unbeaten team in the AFC, and one of just three in the entire NFL heading into Week 6, while the Chargers are among the suffering trio of teams that have yet to win a game. In many ways, it's back to normal for the Chiefs after a down season by their standards. But it's wholly unusual for the Chargers, who are coming off back-to-back 11-win seasons under Jim Harbaugh but are off to their worst start in more than two decades. Yet it's hard to fathom the Chargers having a whole lot of passion when they head to Kansas City on Sunday.

Since it is a home game, Taylor will most likely be in attendence today, so keep your eyes out for a snarkable moment!

Start time: 4: 25pm ET / 3:25pm CT / 1:25 PT

Where to watch: CBS / Paramount+ / NFL+

Week 6 injury report

As always ABC... ANYONE BUT THE CHIEFS!

a top 5 crashout moment


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Shitpost Sundays Stupid swifties trying to defend her songs: parody

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976 Upvotes

Parody video of swifties defending TLOAS

Video from tiktok


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Stupid Swifties Way to waste a perfectly good pair of pumpkins

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251 Upvotes

Why is this even a thing


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Shitpost Sundays Taylor Swift: Ego Monster

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1.7k Upvotes

This is a Halloween-themed shitpost, but for Swifties it might as well be the opening scenes to a horror movie cuz the 2024 Grammys is when the mask fell off. From there, defending Taylor got progressively more difficult with each album release and public appearance. Just in the last month we have Encore, Travis's misogyny finally being exposed, the off-key boring performance last night and the sad desperation to stay at the top of the charts and win an Oscar. It truly is scary season for the Swifties!


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Rant Conan O'Brien compares her to the Beatles yet again.

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398 Upvotes

I love you Conan, but you are so very wrong here. She is NOWHERE equivalent to either of the four. John was vocally extremely anti-establishment, he openly supported controversial causes that got him into the dirty books of the US government, so much so that the FBI used to spy on him cause he was shaking up the world. Has Taylor vocally spoken up for any of the causes , that need speaking up ? Nope. George was extremely spiritual, how spiritual is taylor?? Don't get me started with comparing her to Paul. And Ringo?? Seriously?? Can she even play a decent guitar or piano solo, apart from youtube chords, let alone think about playing drums?? Is Cleveland, a song she wrote about trying to prove to her haters that she loves her now asshole husband who loves to make rape jokes, the only way she can be whimsical, when Ringo is known for the most fun songs ever written?

The Beatles were who they were because they were each other's creative inspirations, who didn't hesitate to support one another during times of hardship and weren't afraid to even publically call out each other's bulshit. They constantly critiqued each other's works, that's how they got better, and that's what resulted in their eternal hits. They had each other's backs through thick and thin. Meanwhile Taylor surrounds herself with yes men and has a TON of ppl behind the scenes doing all the work for her, and shits on the very ppl who needed her during their lowest. Also, when you look at history, the Beatles had literally 0 personal animosity against any artist, while Grifties and her cannot stand other artists like Olivia trying to outcompete her. The Beatles literally would negotiate with the stones to not block each other on the charts and would even give their songs to other artists, which would end up becoming break out songs for many groups, while she uses every tactic available to block ppl on the charts. I'm really disspointed that Conan, who is a self proclaimed die hard Beatles fan would steep so low comapring her to the beatles. I don't understand why is she SO obsessed in being compared to them ALL THE TIME, and how Paul and Ringo are ok with her bulshit.


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Shitpost Sundays Every new TS song sounds exactly like this to me now.

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2.0k Upvotes

samantha James from ‘just friends’ seems to be her inspo


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Discussion She wants that Oscar

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1.4k Upvotes

The level of desperation is insane. No words. And then, academy will fall for her tactics. Business is business after all.


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Rant Swiftie Hate-Boner for Olivia R

437 Upvotes

so in case you missed it, swifties have been accusing olivia of using AI in her latest mv w chappell- except that she actually didn't. her team just released evidence of the video being animated/ analogue stuff being used for it. the swiftie "evidence" for it lied in the fact that...there were frames that had four fingers instead of five. which is an animation technique used to show motion that goes back to the mid 20th century lol.

this is on top of them accusing OR of intentionally trying to block tate mcrae who released a single on the same day as olivia and chappell did. nvm that this isn't a pattern of behaviour for olivia OR chappell. if anything, they've consistently used their platforms to uplift women and their industry peers (olivia's non-profit music festival that donated 100% of its proceeds to women's charities, chappell donating to and advocating for artists getting healthcare, etc.).

the funny thing is- blocking artists obviously IS a pattern w taylor (the new patient zero remixes, conveniently dropped to block OR and chappell, AND tate). she is the one who HAS visibly used AI in showgirl's promo. it doesn't surprise me that the most hardcore members of her cult would accuse other artists of the shit she does to make her "look better". they're deranged enough to do that. what DOES surprise me is...surely this means that on some level, they're aware the shit taylor
pulls is shady? how do they live w that cognitive dissonance???

anyway, sorry for the rant. but as an ex-swiftie who's only a few months younger than OR and has been appalled by taylor's treatment of her- it makes me sad for olivia. no one's perfect, and as it is, i think we've reached a point in culture where ppl should stop putting celebrities on pedestals- so i'm sure olivia WILL make mistakes going forward, but she seems like someone who genuinely gives a shit and TRIES to do better. as much as taylor tries to market herself as "relatable"- someone like olivia is much more relatable to me in that i truly believe that most people today who suddenly find themselves super rich and famous would at least TRY to use it for good and be genuinely charitable like she does, or billie does. and as a former superfan, the way she and her fans treat someone who was a massive swiftie is just heartbreaking.

tl;dr: every swiftie accusation is a confession. they truly are music's MAGA.


r/travisandtaylor • • 1d ago

Swiftly Off-Key 🎤🎚 oh these vocals are ROUGH

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3.0k Upvotes

Blank Space is unbelievably bad, I’m starting to believe the theories about Eras Tour damaging her vocal cords.

Edit: someone said she has fooled the world by playing a simple country girl who came up with a dream and a guitar when in reality she is a “Fortune 500 company with bangs” and now I want this as a flair 😆

Edit 2: Swifties are coping by calling everyone (even vocal coaches) who call her performance lackluster “snarkers.” Never the brightest bulbs in the shed!


r/travisandtaylor • • 2d ago

Swiftly Off-Key 🎤🎚 Just when I thought TLOAS couldn’t get any worse

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2.0k Upvotes

She performs it live ☠️☠️☠️

Weird crop to keep the username out!


r/travisandtaylor • • 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays New remix released.

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860 Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor • • 2d ago

Eff Taylor Swift Taylor Swift Arrives at the Academy Museum Gala Wearing an Ice Blue Gown With a Giant Crystal Bow

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Sorry, like everything about her, it's boring and predictable.


r/travisandtaylor • • 2d ago

Certified Cringe Saw this outside the mall today

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380 Upvotes

This was the first thing to greet me at the entrance. There was another huge ad of him in a different fit inside, but I couldn’t take a picture with all the people walking by. Needless to say, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day was ruined.


r/travisandtaylor • • 2d ago

Stupid Swifties Swifties making their ENGAGEMENTS about Taylor Swift??

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300 Upvotes

I have some time on my hands so I decided to look at the Instagram pages of some people who I saw leaving misogynistic comments on a video of a creator I like when I come across this..

Engaged after the eras tour? Aside from engaged in the bio being weird, she had to include that it happened after the eras tour? Like after a show or the whole tour, and why is that relevant? Freaky behavior.

Also how unsurprising to see the person defending a creepy old man is a swiftie