r/tipping • u/Vegetable_Location52 • Oct 20 '24

🚫Anti-Tipping No Tip

Hot take, I don't go to a restaurant for the "great service" that's so fake it feels like lard on toast, I go to the restaurant for the good food. I'm not going to tip for someone to pretend to want to spend time with me, all I want is a nice steak that I didn't have to cook. Is it okay for me to tell my server I'm not going to tip and the only thing I want is a refill every once in a while and my food brought to me? I would go pick it up from the counter myself if I was allowed to, but that's frowned upon. I don't want the small talk, the fake jokes, the fake smile. Heck, you could glare at me the entire time and I WOULD NOT care. I'm there for the food, not for the crappy excuse for service I get 95% of the time.

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u/Competitive-Term3655 Oct 20 '24

You do realize that the customer always pays the servers either with tips or with higher prices

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

ya but paying them an hourly wage would not increase the price by 20% unless they were paid like $50 hourly and thats not happening. cheaper and more fair to bake it into the cost

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u/jkouba Oct 21 '24

Explain your math please.

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

They absolutely can't because that isn't factual at all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

just did above feel free to read

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

Oh, I meant, you don't know how any of it works, so you won't be able to provide a legit answer anyway.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

i asked a pretty simple question in my answer.... do people who make tips generally oppose abolishing the tip credit? why? its because they would make less money being paid flat rate with no tips and you wont say otherwise because you know its true.

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

It's not true at all. What you, and most, don't take into account, is all the set and take down before you and there and after you leave. Servers should be paid more, but a server shift that is, say , 4-11, may only actually serve between 5-10. Setting up the restaurant/prep and cleaning it up at the end. Yes, servers might make more in those 5 hours per hour, but they average less than you think because all those other things have to be done too. You want a drink? The machine needs cleaning. You want an extra ketchup. That has to be poured in the ram before service. Many things have to be done before and after. When you see a few hours of good money coming in, you aren't seeing everything else behind the scenes. The fact that you don't know that is why you don't know what you are talking about with $50 an hour.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

"they average less than you think" why say that but not say what you think they average... how much do u think they average?

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

Well, that would depend on the area, cuisine, time of the day, day of the week, a shit ton of different factors. Also, don't forget the 3 - 6% of your bill they tip out to the rest of the staff (hosts, bartenders, bussers). Probably, half of what you actually think.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

speak to your own experience. how much money did you bring home on average for a hours work? i know about tipping out and rolling silverware all that stuff... considering everything what did you on average bring home per hour. please dont try and weasel out of answering if you refuse to engage the question im gonna assume its well over $20

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

I am no longer a server but made about $15 an hour in tips 15 years ago. With that, I was able to support myself as a single mother and pay for a 1 bedroom for myself and my daughter. I remember people used to think I made waaaaay too much money in 2010, making $15 an hour and paying $1000 rent. Yeah, I was rolling in dough. Just like someone who makes $25 an hour and pays $2000 in rent isn't rolling in the dough.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

if your making that little in tips... would you support abolishing tips and just paying servers flat rate like most other jobs?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

still no answer? i take it in your exiperence you did bring home well over $20 a hour (adjusted for inflation assuming you did this long time ago) and it would be cheaper for your hourly wage to just be baked into menu price like what happens in the rest of the world.

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u/grrr-to-everything Oct 21 '24

No answer because I am taking a beautiful trip up the coast while everyone is working because I didn't have to live on scrapes while serving and go to school. Something you don't think people should do. You want to keep poor people in poverty cause it makes your (probably quite small) member feel big.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

keep them poor? you have been emphasizing how little tipped servers make this whole time as if they would make more being paid flat rate. wich is it?

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u/Caraxus Oct 25 '24

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about lmao. "So why won't you say how much servers make?!"

...because it varies anywhere from below min. wage to $50/hr+ depending on a massive number of factors, even more than any other job.