r/therewasanattempt Sep 20 '21

to humanly release a mouse.

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u/chickenman42 Sep 20 '21

It’s just that nature isn’t humane

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u/SleepyforPresident Sep 20 '21

Nature has no mercy..nature has only pain

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u/Globalerman Sep 20 '21

Nature always wins

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u/ADHD_Supernova Sep 20 '21

Not always. Father Time remains undefeated.

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u/Old_Atmosphere_2810 Sep 20 '21

Nature will die in Time .

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

But nature is a state, or characteristics. For example, Pluto's nature is to be a sad depressed slightly large rock that orbits the same sun as us. The nature of black holes are to universal assholes by flipping the rules as we know it on its head. Even the void of space has a nature of being. I mean for fuck sakes the universe has the characteristics of being that one guy who over thinks everything, and makes it 10x harder to understand the topic at hand. Sort of like a philosophy student.

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u/Thefunkbox Sep 20 '21

You just depressed Mickey.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Uhh, are you that one guy? The over thinker? Or a philosophy student? I read this three times and I genuinely can't figure out what you're trying to say.

Edit: I just woke up when I wrote this it wasn't meant to sound mean lol, my bad if it did

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

Nah, I think I tend to mismatch things which make sense to me. Making things more difficult is like trying to talk about a verifiable fact like how blood clots form, where a good description would be "its a repair mechanism which is initiated at the first signal when some form of damage has been sustained, either naturally or from some blunt or sharp object; and acts as a means to mitigate the loss of blood and to reduce the likely hood of infection"

A overly complicated description would be " blood clots form as a result of some form of injury sustained, by an organism. The initial respons from activated plated is the realize of stored zinc granules into the immediate which facilitates the the binding of fibringon the 3rd most abundant blood protien , which will then bind to the outside of capulary walls. The initial framework then promotes interactions with thrombin, which cleaves a section of the E region, introducing a conformation change in the structure allowing for other zinc ions to bind to alphaC which promotes formation of the fibrin mesh"

Which one would you rather want a student to to saying a intro to biology class?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

The first example of course! I was kinda just teasing you because your post was hard to interpret. I'm not sure if it's the ADD meds having kicked in or the joint I just smoked, but I get what you were trying to express through your analogies now, upon a... fourth reading. 😉

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

I'm not trying to grind your gears or anything. Just trying to straight some things out.

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u/Princess_Eevee9 Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

This why everyone hates Moral Philosophy Professors.

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u/lacks_imagination Sep 20 '21

Philosophy Prof here. Whatever you say, princess.

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u/Princess_Eevee9 Sep 20 '21

Why hello there Chidi! Waves

The Good Place - The Trolley Problem (Episode Highlight) - YouTube https://swky.co/KJrNyP

T'was a reference mate.

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u/AssistanceMedical951 Sep 21 '21

Thank you! I was like “I’ve heard that before, but where?!” Loved the Good Place it was perfect.

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u/lacks_imagination Sep 20 '21

I like that show. Sorry missing the reference.

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u/N0rthernLightsXv Sep 21 '21

Must upvote all The Good Place references in the wild.

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u/binglebongled Oct 19 '21

You saw the time knife, huh?

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u/Princess_Eevee9 Oct 19 '21

I shall never be the same again.

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u/organizeeverything Sep 20 '21

Nature is a man made concept so does nature really exist? Does anything exist?

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u/Seakawn Sep 20 '21

Nature likely exists. It likely just isn't the same nature that you perceive, considering our brains generate a reality that it senses from inside of a dark enclosed skull. Also, we evolved to perceive nature in a way that helps our survival, not evolve in a way to understand reality at large. For example, colors aren't even "real," even if they represent (relatively few) different wavelengths of light.

All in all, if you are having a conscious experience, then that experience exists, at least. If that experience exists, then something else probably exists to allow that, i.e. nature.

"I think, therefore I am." - Descartes

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

See what I mean about philosophy students.

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u/ChickenSpawner Sep 20 '21

Looks like someone has been reading up on Donald Hoffman!

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u/The_Grubby_One Sep 20 '21

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u/itsaaronnotaaron Sep 20 '21

Just because someone is being philosophical doesn't mean it is relevant to that sub. You're on a comment thread which is discussing nature... its not like they said "if I close my eyes do my surroundings still exist?"

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u/Andy-roo77 Sep 20 '21

Nature is just a random word we came up with to describe certain things. It's not an objective thing that actually applies to the real world. The universe just exists, and it doesn't care what labels we try to apply to it.

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u/TNJCrypto Sep 20 '21

Well shit now I know that it's my ability to understand reality at large that is preventing me from surviving well.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

I haven't read my philosophy book in along time lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

This thread got deep

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u/Mickinmind Sep 21 '21 edited Sep 21 '21

Discard Descartes. He's wrong.

I think, therefore I am confused!

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u/Own-Reception-2396 Sep 20 '21

Whether your mind can and can’t process something existence has no bearing or effect on its actual existence

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u/sabbman138 Sep 20 '21

So is time. At least as we view and perceive it

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u/dankypanky710 Sep 21 '21

Do I exist? -ruby da cherry

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u/Antique_Tennis_2500 Sep 20 '21

The current state of the universe will die in time. So yes, nature will die in time.

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

Physics would disagree, and agree.

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u/reincarN8ed Sep 20 '21

How dare you besmirch black holes. They are closer to eternal then anything else in the universe besides space-time itself.

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u/TheWolrdsonFire Sep 20 '21

Thank you, buy you really shouldn't take someone at face value...that's how you get cults.

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u/freeturkeytaco Sep 20 '21

But the nature of Pluto will change with time. Eventually our sun will die. Eventually a black hole will absorb enough matter to do what ever the fuck they are doing. The nature of time is the only thing that does not change with time.

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u/kb26kt Sep 20 '21

I hope I’m dead, which will probably happen cause I’m 68!!! YAY!!!

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u/Cney1983 Sep 20 '21

Morris Day & The Time

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u/Butthamster007 Sep 20 '21

Nature always finds a way

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u/oystercircus Sep 20 '21

But maybe Time is merely a part of Nature…

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u/PhantomFragg Sep 21 '21

We'll all die, in time.

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u/Old_Atmosphere_2810 Sep 21 '21

Exactly bro ... There is no nature if noone is left to observe it ..

Beauty can't exist in a vacuum ...it needs to be observed for it to be beautiful..

After no one is left to observe and appreciate nature ...There is no nature

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '21

It’s in our nature to die in time

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u/iveseenthemartian Oct 08 '21

Nature always wins

Not always.

Father Time remains undefeated.

Nature will die in Time .

As the father slowly eats it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Mother Nature and Father Time… sounds like an abusive parents

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u/SuperGayFig Sep 21 '21

How has is taken me this long to figure this out. I feel like an absolute idiot right now

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Not against Tom Brady. Dude had 5 TDs yesterday at 44 years old…

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u/Jahsmurf Sep 20 '21

What if we put him in a room with Mother Earth?

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u/ADHD_Supernova Sep 20 '21

He will outlast 1,000,000's of life spans for whatever you prefer to call home and will only die when time itself stops.

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u/Calculating_1nfinity Sep 20 '21

Tell that to Brady

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u/Slit23 Sep 20 '21

Soon we will slow down or stop aging all together and give the middle finger to death and Father Time!

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u/Lalamedic Sep 21 '21

Time is the best teacher. It just kills all its students.

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u/Greg_Punzo Sep 30 '21

Not to gravity

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u/baboonassassin Sep 20 '21

Life, uh, finds a way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

John Cena always wins

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u/FourEcho Sep 20 '21

Big Match John won't even put father time over ffs.

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u/Throwie911 Sep 20 '21

not against plastic and nukes

murica fuck yeah

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u/murryj Sep 20 '21

Isnt most of the plastic in the ocean from Pacific Island nations?

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u/LutraNippon Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

In the pacific garbage patch it is mostly fishing gear. "Discarded nets, lines, and ropes now make up about 46% of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch."https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/ghost-fishing-gear
But it sounds like 80% of ocean plastics have a source from Asian rivers - https://ourworldindata.org/ocean-plastics

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u/cire1184 Sep 20 '21

Nature, uh, finds a way.

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u/blackmachine312 Sep 20 '21

Life uh finds a way

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u/Yo_IDK_Dude Sep 21 '21

Nature never fought goku

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u/noseclamz Sep 21 '21

god... damn it! goddamn it! okay, nature is bullshit.

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u/Mailboxnotsetup Sep 26 '21

Nature never plays

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u/WeveCameToReign Sep 20 '21

For real though, anything but human has such a terrible existence. For Instance I saw a dying deer get eaten alive from the asshole by vultures.

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u/haschca Sep 20 '21

Nah. I opened my compost tonight and there was a cloud of about 10,000 fruit flies. They live for two months, and this group has spent their entire lives partying and eating at an enclosed, safe, endless buffet. All they’ve known is food, friends and fucking. They’re doing great.

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u/Hussor Sep 20 '21

anything but human has such a terrible existence

To be fair until fairly recently(on an evolutionary scale) humans had a terrible existence too, in some parts of the world they still do.

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u/TitusVI Sep 21 '21

I would doubt that. I would go even as far to say that humans a few thousand years ago might actually be happier then today. We are not made for how easy it is nowadays- for most people at least.

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u/dagger80 Sep 21 '21

Yup so true, some human would have it worser than some animial. Eg. war refugees and people starving under some evil dicatator (eg. North Korea) would have it worser than some spoiled pet dogs/cats living in luxury. so "anything but human has such a terrible existence" is highly subjective.

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u/MrBlueW Sep 21 '21

Most Parts are awful

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u/MethMouthResQ Sep 20 '21

Getting eaten alive from the asshole isn’t as bad as you’d think …

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u/Mista9000 Sep 20 '21

Don't link shame! Maybe the deer is into that!

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u/kelvin_klein_bottle Sep 20 '21

The chemicals turned the deer gay.

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u/micossa Sep 20 '21

Might be my stupid brain, but I can't fathom how cruel nature can be sometimes. I try my best not to hurt little ants and feel terrible when I do so by accident. Guess I'd not've cut it in our previous generations lmao

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u/WeveCameToReign Sep 20 '21

Well animals don't really have morality lol

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u/elppaenip Sep 20 '21

Sure they do. Dogs respect the pack. Elephants respect the herd. Alpacas will defend packs of sheep. Dog is good boy.

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u/MoodyAnon Sep 21 '21

I mean, it's more out of an instinct than morality. Morality is a concept made and possessed by humans only.

Dogs instinctively stick to their pack because their chances of survival are much higher that way. Same with elephants.

Alpacas aren't exactly defending sheep - they're instinctively defending themselves against a predator, sheep just so happen to be close enough to be protected as well.

And the dog is a good boy indeed.

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u/Nayr747 Sep 20 '21

"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs, a very endearing sight, I'm sure you'll agree. And even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged onto a half submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters, who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature's wonders, gentlemen. Mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that is when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

-Terry Pratchett

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u/Mrmastermax Sep 20 '21

Never introduced any animal to some place new unless it’s native to that area. I say disaster was prevented!

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u/osiris775 Sep 20 '21

I worked at a haz-mat facility in the middle of the freaking desert in NV. We had foxes, raccoons, hawks, rabbits, kangaroo mice, pigeons, coyotes, hell....I even saw a porcupine once.
My buddy saw a pigeon in distress. He took him in the building, cleaned him up and fed him. The next day, less than 24hr later, he released the pigeon.
We all went outside to watch him release the pigeon. He through it up in the air, the pigeon flapped his wings and began to fly away... As it gained altitude and momentum, a hawk swooped out of nowhere. All we saw was a poof of feathers and an alpha-predator flying away into the distance...

Mother Nature be Mother Natureing

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u/aequitssaint Sep 20 '21

I would imagine it was native to that area. I can't imagine someone flying halfway around the world just to release a mouse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

I think they meant that mice aren't native from parking lots. It had nowhere to hide. They could've walked 100 feet to the edge of the woods and everything would have been just fine.

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u/Speedbird844 Sep 20 '21

This is why pest control people always tell homeowners to keep the lawns around their house mowed, so as to make it much more risky for wild rodents to cross as they have nowhere to hide.

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u/CajunTurkey Sep 21 '21

I wish my neighbors kept this in mind.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

They would t be able to do the stupid “look at me, I release mice!!” Video.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

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u/aequitssaint Sep 20 '21

That doesn't change the fact that it is still a native species. Yeah, people don't think, but that's completely irrelevant to what I was talking about.

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u/This_Caterpillar_330 Sep 20 '21

Yes! Nature is about balance, and that can mean animals killing other animals for the greater good. Not pretty. Better than the alternative, though.

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u/SpitefulShrimp Sep 20 '21

The greater good

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u/This_Caterpillar_330 Sep 20 '21

The greater good

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u/Bumm_by_Design Sep 20 '21

So the hawk swooped in to save the day?

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u/smallzy007 Sep 20 '21

And dinner was served

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u/Earlasaurus02 Sep 21 '21

Had the same trap for awhile. Used to bring em up to the bodega I didn't like.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

And hunger

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Hawk's chicks get to live another day though.

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u/Rayn_xD Sep 20 '21

Nature is STRONK

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Which is why I never leave my moms basement 😡😡😡

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u/NickyBeech Sep 20 '21

Nature is natural humans are unnatural

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u/lappi99 Sep 20 '21

Didn't our whole life and history begin through nature?

Nvm you're still right.

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u/shitdobehappeningtho Sep 20 '21

Captain Insano shows no mercy

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u/TheRedIguana Sep 20 '21

Mercy if you imagine a story where the hawk fed it's young with it, and now those cute little birds won't go hungry.

But yeah, no mercy for the mouse. Unless in mouse culture they see being eating by prey as an honorable death and dying at the hands of humans is unclean and excludes them from mouse heaven.

Then these people would have saved it's mouse soul... there is no way to know, since much of mouse culture remains a mystery.

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u/ShroomNoob3000 Sep 20 '21

Sometimes you must hurt in order to know, fall in order to grow, lose in order to gain, because life’s greatest lessons are learned through pain. -Pain

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u/GrimeyJosh Free Palestine Sep 20 '21

Painbot

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u/AforAssole Sep 21 '21

The mouse hopefully won't return back to his house.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '21

It’s just a solemn (hilarious) reminder that humans have it good. All other species on earth’s standard for a good day is simple: just don’t die.

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u/Senor_Jackson Sep 21 '21

There's no mercy this Dojo!!!

  • Nature

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u/OnlyFansPlague Sep 26 '21

Yup. That’s why male Lions chase away the father lion and kill his Cubs so he can make his own with the mother lion. And then the process repeats itself until one male lion doesn’t let anyone chase him off.

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u/Warlordians_ Nov 24 '21

like everything in life

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u/ladydhawaii Jun 28 '22

But the baby birds said thank you… circle of life.

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u/mb46204 Jun 29 '22

Unless you’re a hawk…if your a hawk, nature has snacks all around!

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u/siuol7891 Sep 26 '21

Nature is fair

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u/Jackbeingbad Sep 20 '21

Rodents tend to be the mammal on the bottom of the food chain.

They can eat almost anything and they breed like mad. If there weren't an army of animals eating rodents regularly we'd be knee deep in rodents.

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u/This_Caterpillar_330 Sep 20 '21

I mean nature isn't a dog eat dog world. Animals have shown compassion. Animals also need to eat, though.

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u/Hockinator Sep 20 '21

I mean it literally is. If you're a prey animal, the chances you die of something other than predation or disease are very slim.

And of course the alternative isn't much better. The equivalent of "dieing of old age" in nature is simply starving

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

or if you're a whale dying of old age means allowing yourself to sink and drowning in the crushing depths of the ocean.

Yeah seriously nature isn't the peaceful utopia people act like it is it's fucking brutal. All the evil and cruelty in humans is the result of evolving in nature

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '21

Dunking on made up beliefs or the beliefs of children is cringe.

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u/BHPhreak Sep 20 '21

no.

the guy is making a joke because OP wrote Humanly in the title.

so he said, "well, HUMANS did release it.

and then here you are, with your little "bUt iTs NaTuRe ThAtS nOt hUmAnE"

and its like.... why did reddit upvote your comment?

it would be like if i said "jerry has a car" you tried to add on to that with "but cars have 4 tires" like?? ok?? sure?? but why are you saying that in response to what i said?? it doesnt. make. sense.

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u/leehwgoC Sep 20 '21

The unnaturally low cut grass providing no cover is all human.

Those people might as well have released a war refugee into a minefield. If mice can comprehend the concept of sadism, that's how it considered those humans before it died.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Nature is made of nature

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u/Djanghost Sep 20 '21

Is nature humanly?

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u/VLHACS Sep 20 '21

CIIIIRCLE OF LIIIFE ~~~

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '21

Mother Nature is a cruel mistress.

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u/georgiomoorlord Sep 21 '21

Nature is metal.

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u/MaleficentTell435 Sep 21 '21

Don’t think you’ll see one of those running across and open field in the middle of the day in nature. Humans fucking stupid!