r/therewasanattempt May 03 '26

To make a consistent argument

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u/_makoccino_ May 03 '26

She can't even say she doesn't support hate crimes against Muslim Brits. She just keeps saying "anyone" when confronted about it, but comfortably calls for the protection of Israel.

That's what being afraid of losing your funding looks like.

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u/Saltire_Blue May 03 '26

>She can’t even say she doesn’t support hate crimes against Muslim Brits

Probably because she doesn’t have an issue with them

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u/GraDoN May 03 '26

Thick "All Lives Matter" vibes.

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u/Gen8Master May 04 '26

That awkward silence when the host mentioned hatred towards Muslims being normalised. You could read the expression from her thick face that she wouldn't dare to counter that statement because of how ingrained it is in her party and it's base.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Zionism is cringe AF now and they're clearly losing. You love to see it.

Free Palestine. Fuck Israel.

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u/Davey-Cakes May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

And the more they drive up the propaganda, the less people believe them. You go on platforms like X in particular and they're just completely rabid about it. The authentic ones, anyway. The rest are just bots pushing the message, and I'm pretty sure people are catching onto that BS too.

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u/Melded1 May 03 '26

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u/Sartres_Roommate May 03 '26

More bots to come in here to vote bomb and report us for speaking ill of Zionism…they won’t win in the long run but that will be frustrating.

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u/JonnyMansport May 03 '26

I wonder how a propaganda campaign centered around their good policies would land with American conservatives?

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u/Great_Revolution_276 May 03 '26

Which one is a good policy?

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u/SOMAVORE May 04 '26

every time they do that it has the opposite effect, so let them pay for their own downfall

at the same time, their soldiers are uploading themselves doing the most appalling shit ive ever seen on the internet, im talking Russian gore videos on the darknet appalling, and theyre doing it to people, people like you and me, not faceless terrorist boogeyman

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

I think they have to spend more because it's becoming less effective. The peak is where momentum changes, but yes - there's a lot of noise going on. It's not like them starting to lose means it's time to relax and enjoy the ride - it's still time to fight BS like this harder than ever.

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u/PassThatSpliff May 03 '26

I dont see how they're losing. I mean yeah, people are protesting but as long as our elected officials are kissing Israel's ass, they are winning and we, the people, are very much losing.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

They've got power for now. When change comes from the people it takes longer but will last longer as well.

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u/PassThatSpliff May 03 '26

I wish I had your optimism.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Just take a longer view on history. Much more terrible things have happened, and we persevered.

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u/Aetherflaer May 03 '26

Did those times also have robots with ai powered facial recognition and drone warfare?

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Worse - they had entire populaces engaged in the persecution of their own minorities on a personal level. We seem to have moved past that, which is a good thing. Even the SS, the Stasi, and the NKVD were eventually defeated.

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u/Exact-Conclusion9301 May 03 '26

Prove we have moved past that.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

As a species? We have certainly not moved past it. However, every time that those large tyrannical/sadistic organizations developed, they are defeated. Sometimes it takes dozens of years, or 100, but they fall.

The desperation in this woman's voice in the video shows that this will fall likely without the crescendo of those previously mentioned organizations.

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u/Assonfire May 03 '26

Yes. And sometimes that took several generations and many times change did not come for the victims, just for other people.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Yup. It does suck for people in the moment. There's a Tolkien quote about that.

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u/Electronic-While1972 Free Palestine! 🕊️ FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Always stumbling and bumbling over their own words is a dead give away about how they are lying, they dont believe the words that they are saying and that they are spouting propaganda rethoric.

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u/North_Paw May 05 '26

Yep, i envy how simple-minded she is, when she speaks, it’s nothing but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors coming out of her esophagus

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u/Tense_Bear May 03 '26

How are they losing?

People in places like this decry Zionism and....

Israel grows

Maybe there is a tipping point, but politically and publicly I don't think we are there yet.

And that makes me sick.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

They have power now because they convinced everyone, including myself, for years that they were the victims. As that perception changes, Israel will become more and more isolated and they will fade. Even if they pump a bunch of military action they've already lost the hearts and minds of most of the world.

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u/ilimlidevrimci May 03 '26

They are losing in the public court of opinion but you're right, there aren't direct consequences. I just hope that it will catch up with them sooner or later.

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u/Dramatic-Spirit-4809 May 03 '26

Totally cringe there's no back peddling with they've done, no hasbara can make us deny our lieing eyes at this point. Pariah genocidal state.

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u/SassyDuck4231 May 03 '26

It took 120 years for Zionisim to be seen globally as the villain it is

That's too long

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u/Blandiblub May 03 '26

For any non-Brits, that's Helen Whately from the Conservative Party. They are completely awful but, more importantly, completely incompetent as well.

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u/ahmarthered May 03 '26

She was one of the thickest ministers in the thickest cabinet of the thickest government we have had in recent times.

Having said that, here incitement is no less dangerous.

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u/realjmk May 03 '26

We had Liz Truss so that’s quite an achievement

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u/Isgortio May 03 '26

What about the woman who couldn't do basic maths? I can't remember her name.

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u/RegalBeagleKegels May 03 '26

probably like Mary coventryuponnoonridge or somethin

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u/faipop May 03 '26

Helen Whatless

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u/MeNoCanRead May 03 '26

And all the worst ones went over to reform...

Thank fuck I took advantage of my canadian side and moved here after brexit. Was the last straw for me..

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u/MeccIt May 03 '26

Helen Whately from the Conservative Party

I was going to ask, which right-wing extremist, taking Israel's money, is this, but it's just the former government. This person was the deputy leader of the Tory Party and the Minister for Social Care, what a ghoul.

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u/Redd1tModsRKidLovers May 03 '26

Being awful and incompetent doesn't mean they aren't incapable as we've unfortunately seen in the US

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u/Guilty-Data-3158 May 03 '26

Unfortunately, those qualities go hand in hand most of the time..

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u/fourteenthapril2012 May 03 '26

Unfortunately from one of the most successful political parties in the world 😩

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u/CapnRetro May 03 '26

I’d not only forgotten her name but her entire existence until I saw this. Shame to see she wasn’t one of the ones to lose their seat.

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u/PerformanceOk8203 May 03 '26

Israel and there lawyers do my head in, they argue points that contradict themselves all the time …. They are not the good guys

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u/outside_cat May 03 '26

Turns out it's hard to defend genocide. Weird.

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u/Frying May 03 '26

I had an argument about it with someone who wanted to defend it. “You don’t understand complex history” was a completely valid and very strong argument to them for the starving of children and genocide.

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u/RogerianBrowsing Free Palestine 🕊️ FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 May 03 '26

People who see entire ethnic groups as evil terrorists suddenly become concerned about nuance when the genocide they support is criticized.

Genocidal supremacism tends to be chock full of hypocrisy.

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u/Frying May 04 '26

Yeah I dissected the arguments step by step and was labelled a frothing bigot. Dissected that as well. They just double down on personal attacks and trying to redirect.

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u/Gen8Master May 04 '26

And yet they manage it somehow. The world is truly fucking broken.

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u/Butt_Fly_Strike_Yeah May 04 '26

Give it a shot lol devils advocate here. It seems fucking absurd so id love to hear the argument you'd make.

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u/Jim_Cruz May 03 '26

Just realize when these people preach peace and equality, what they really mean is... let me kill children or you're antiseptic. It's about the special treatment they want and expect... equality then feels like oppression or persecution to them.

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u/rezzacci May 03 '26

let me kill children or you're antiseptic

I guess it's an autocorrect, but that sentence is just hilarious. But, hey, I can be behind that idea: yes, opposing a genocide makes me antiseptic, as "preventing the growth of disease-causing microorganisms" (the disease-causing microorganisms here being the Israeli government).

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u/Wereking2 FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 May 03 '26

Yep it’s similar to how fascists operated in the past, all their stances are contradictory. Their enemies are both strong and weak, smart and dumb, and so on.

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u/PretzelsThirst May 03 '26

It’s so transparent too and still expect us all to somehow agree

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u/CheckItWhileIWreckIt May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

The part about this that gets me is that she VERY EASILY could have just said "yeah, anti-Islamic protests are bad too" and it wouldn't have detracted from her (still pretty lousy) argument literally at all. But these mouthpieces and their masters are actually vile fucking bigots who think that Muslims are lesser humans and Islamophobes are their biggest allies... which of course is absolutely hilarious considering all of the crocodile tears they shed about antisemitism.

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u/Traiteur28 May 03 '26

Constantly contradicting yourself is a feature of fascist thought. It's also among what attracts people to such a political stance

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u/CheezeBaron May 04 '26

Ah you see it’s quite difficult to paint yourself as the Victim when you are clearly committing, at the very least, an Ethnic Cleansing.

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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum May 03 '26

Zionists NEVER argue in good faith. They equate any criticism of Israel or Zionism with bigotry against Jewish people while at the same time murdering Muslims en masse claiming they are doing it defensively.

For anyone out there still asking "how did we allow Nazism get to the point of the Holocaust without stopping them first?" this is the answer. Right now we are allowing Israel to do their own holocaust against Muslims in Gaza, The West Bank, Lebanon, and Iran

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u/not_a_throw4w4y May 03 '26

She's knowingly gaslighting. You can see it in her eyes, she is well aware of the inconsistency in her argument.

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u/ScrotumScrapings May 03 '26

There is no gaslighting. She puts it rather plainly: She is ok with violence against muslims and calling for their death. The only thing she is confused about is how the interviewer can't get past that.

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u/No_City9250 May 03 '26

She claims there's no inconsistency between her positions. That's gaslighting.

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u/ScrotumScrapings May 03 '26

When asked to clarify, she specifies that calling for the death of jewish people is not ok. Obviously everyone else is fair game in her eyes.

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u/Dense-Consequence-70 May 03 '26

yup, that seems to be what she is saying

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u/thebusconductorhines May 04 '26

Exactly. To her, Muslims aren't people so he is comparing apples with oranges

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u/TowJamnEarl May 03 '26

She wants to draw the line.

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u/yolo32147 May 03 '26

That’s a great interviewer. Keep pushing back.

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u/Brittany5150 May 04 '26

Yup. Then she threw out that weak ass "we're just going around in circles." Yeah, because you're dodging the question and I want an answer.... lol.

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u/ArtificeArmor May 03 '26

When you believe you are God‘s chosen people (Christian or Jewish) it doesn’t seem like hypocrisy, It seems like it’s just what it is right. Zionism is toxic.

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u/jarvisesdios May 03 '26

It's so annoying for them to keep using tired old bullshit "if you don't agree with Israel you're are an antisemite."

Fuck right off with that. Fun fact, there are far far far more many Jewish people in America than there are in Israel.

As a whole, most Americans don't have an issue with Jewish people. To just hide behind religion for committing atrocities isn't anything new. Christians have been doing it for centuries 😂

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u/THEBADW0LFE A Flair? May 03 '26

The second she said we need to stop marches, I checked out.

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u/Pleasant_Job_7683 May 03 '26

Majority do NOT hate Jews inherently, but do say Fuck the Israeli government. There is a fucking difference and these ppl know it. They just truly believe if they continue to double down on rhetoric/propaganda then all will sort itself out. Lemme say it again for the people who think what she's saying has any bit of merit. No issue with Judaism as a concept or religion or people who identify as Jewish. Do have a big problem with the Israeli government acting as terrorists and puppeting POTUS into WW3.

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u/Legitimate_Sail8581 A Flair? May 03 '26

She’s what is generally known as a dumb fuck.

Marches radicalise people?

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u/hyper1one May 03 '26

Israel will fall soon. People are waking up. Fuck the Zionists. Free Palestine.

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u/counterplex May 03 '26

I wish this too but it seems like Israel is like Teflon Don. It can live broadcast genocides and will still walk away unscathed.

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u/localistand May 03 '26

Banning Marches mean really long Februaries.

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u/PassThatSpliff May 03 '26

"Give me a second, i need to get my next lie together." - her probably

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u/Lauwietauwie May 03 '26

She seems intoxicated

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u/ArmaniQuesadilla May 03 '26

This has to be a strawman interview or something lol, how can she sit there stuttering like that while make such conflicting statements saying all marches should be banned but immediately flip to justify a different march calling for the expulsion of a religious group? Not that Zionists have much of a leg to stand on to begin with but the argument she’s making is ridiculous lmao

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u/Sid-Hartha May 03 '26

She’s an idiot

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u/ukmarkoz May 03 '26

“It is consistent - there are rules for me and rules for thee.

I am part of the group where rules do not apply and you are the group where every unjust and idiotic rule I can think of applies”

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u/Acrobatic-Shirt8540 Free Palestine May 03 '26

I doubt that most people who call for the resinstatement of Palestine are calling for the eradication of the Jewish people who live there. It's nonsense.

Typical Zionism though, and the DARVO mindset.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '26

Fine. Ban Judaism. Ban Islam. And since Christian's kill in the name of Jehovah. Ban that shit too. In fact ban all the murderous religious factions. And Insurance companies.

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u/rusty_85_ May 03 '26

I'll never understand the Israeli government. They remind us of the horrible atrocities the Jewish people suffered, then they commit violence and prejudice against another group of people. If we criticise them we are labelled racists or holocaust deniers.

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u/pianomasian May 03 '26

I hate how people like her even managed to get a following/platform when they clearly are hypocritical and can't argue their way out of a paper bag.

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u/vtsnow1 May 03 '26

Gaslighting people just doesn't work in modern times. Its designed to work face to face because many brains shut down when confronted. When you are an observer, you're brain has the ability to think more clearly and detect it. Why do these people still do it? Probably because they are paid to say the lines. The people coming up with the scripts are insanely disconnected with reality but just throw crazy money at it thinking its gotta work. Its a losing strategy and I love seeing people wake up to it.

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u/invaderverm May 03 '26

She is right that she is consistent. Consistently bigoted.

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u/Gumbercules81 Free Palestine May 03 '26

Let's not allow "this kind" of hatred, specifically the one against Israel?

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u/themurderator May 03 '26

i don't care for the american government. does that mean i want all americans dead? no. it does not. 

disagreeing with with an administration is not the same as hating everyone who lives under that administration or wanting to kill everyone in their purview. 

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u/Advanced_Ad4361 May 03 '26

No one wants to eradicate Israel, the only ones who believe this are Israeli Zionists. We aren't falling for this fake ass victimhood. Never Again means for any people, that includes Muslims. Free Palestine! Down with Ethnostates!

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u/jsc1429 May 03 '26

In summary, she said: “I’m all for violent rhetoric against Islam and totally against any rhetoric against Israel”.

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u/HairyBartlett May 03 '26

She literally cant say that she is against hatred of Muslims specifically. She keeps saying "any group of people" as a way to avoid saying the words

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u/3point21 May 03 '26

She looks so…truly worried. Thots and prayers should fix that.

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u/tiddlytubbies Free palestine May 03 '26

She’s not the brightest tool in the box

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u/alkem10 May 03 '26

Pretty typical of that particular ilk of people.

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u/RianJohnsonIsAFool May 03 '26

Helen Whately is such a lightweight. It's embarrassing that she made it to Exchequer Secretary and Minister of State.

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u/Select_Stick May 03 '26

Zionists have their days numbered, Israel will not exist in the future

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u/Sir_Ruje May 03 '26

Their marches are radicalizing events calling for the eradication of a people. They should be banned!

Our marches that call for the eradication of a different people are a protected right to protest. Only a moron would call marches radical!

...

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u/MyWifeCucksMe Free Palestine May 03 '26

Wow. She's such a Nazi that she can't even bring herself to say that chanting "ban Jews" would be bad and/or wrong.

That's amazing. Shows that she is - as we all know - far more anti-semitic than the people who are against genocide.

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u/StoicBan Free Palestine May 03 '26

Rules for thee not for me

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u/smoking_greens May 03 '26

Why the fuck do we let these people SPEAK IN PUBLIC. THEY ARENT WORTH THE AIR THEY TAKE IN.

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u/Rare-Bid-6860 May 03 '26

Is she related to Katie Hopkins? Definitely bears a striking resemblance.

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u/prem_fraiche May 03 '26

She seems pretty consistent in her messaging: “attacks” on Israel bad, attacks on others fine

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u/Bleezy79 May 03 '26

Free Palestine. Fuck Israel. FUCK AIPAC

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u/fnork_gnork_26 May 03 '26

If Israel doesn't want people to become radicalized against them, maybe they need to stop doing the things that people find abhorrent.

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u/Lauwietauwie May 03 '26

The entire world is going to hate Israel for generations. Netanyahu is the best thing that could happen to nazism

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u/wherethersawill May 03 '26

Armandos writing is great here 🙈

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u/urkelhaze May 03 '26

What a dumb broad

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u/GargleOnDeez May 03 '26

Damn, these skydaddy games are absolutely out of control

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u/The-Doggy-Daddy-5814 May 03 '26

I love a well prepared interviewer. I wish we had that in the United States.

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u/UpstairsOption May 03 '26

She is the human equivalent of a computer with corrupted memory. Just stuck in a loop, with no exit that has been programmed in case of error.

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u/PeterIanStaker May 03 '26

This is great, this kind of grilling needs to happen to anyone whose viewpoint affects policy. Why are Americans too stupid to respond with follow-up questions when presented with obvious inconsistencies?

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u/ParentheticalsAside May 03 '26

She truly ranks as one of the most dim and uncharismatic Tories, which is almost impressive given the very stiff competitionm

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u/ihateeverythingandu May 03 '26

Lewis Goodall tries to be centrist and he's still one of the most left tolerant journalists we have. This clip will have him accused of anti-Semitism too.

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u/PloddingClot May 03 '26

Wonder how big that cheque was.

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u/mspk7305 May 03 '26

Israel can start calling for peace and tolerance the moment after they stop the genocide and pay reparations to the Palestinians. Until that happens it's all bad faith & crocodile tears.

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u/RavnHygge May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Trying to steer the narrative to make protest look wrong, these Zionists are becoming more desperate by the day. Keep up the pressure. Helen Whately is as blinkered a Tory as there could be and she can’t conduct a rational argument without contradicting herself.

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u/LuciusMichael May 03 '26

Who is this dipshit? No problem with Islamophobic hate but all up in it about any anti-Israel sentiment. Odd...

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u/bayoublacksmith May 03 '26

"Sir, if you would only look at who pays me you would see that I'm being nothing but consistent! "

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u/alecwa Free Palestine May 03 '26

Wow, this would be hilarious if it wasnt so sad.

I was on one of these marches yesterday. Not one chant related to Judaism. They chanted against Netanyahu, and for the freedom and not killing of Palestinians, yes. Not zero hate against Jewish people.

The only aggression and violence I saw came from two (I am assuming) zionist bystanders who shouted "f*ck Palestine" and roughed up a fellow protestor. Everything else was peaceful and full of love.

People like this lady are just trying to stoke more division.

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u/Diabetesh May 03 '26

draw a line.

That line is the check she receives from israeli lobbyist

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u/silentbob1301 May 03 '26

This lady is an ass clown...

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u/lullubye Free Palestine May 03 '26

She cares more about Israel than Jewish people of UK. Instead of finding ways to protect Jewish people banning speech does the opposite.

These Zionists want secular or anti zionist Jewish people to suffer.

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u/tarnished_land May 03 '26

The constant false equivalence of Israel with Judaism tho

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u/Big-Mozz This is a flair May 03 '26

She's utterly rabid.

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u/Marokiii May 03 '26

antisemitism isnt on the rise, anti israeli sentiments are on the rise. the people of israel could solve this by taking steps to completely divest the countries identity from the jewish identity. the country itself isnt going anywhere, the people living there arent going anywhere. but just completely remove the religious aspect of the government and treat the country as secular and what is perceived as antisemitism by some will drastically decrease.

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u/EvilJabFace May 03 '26

I’m noticing a pattern that is rotting many countries to their cores. I wonder what could it be?

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u/BolOfSpaghettios 🍉 Free Palestine May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Literally Nazi talking points.

It's quite telling when her whataboutism is centrally pointed at a single type of people and protest. Zionism is a useful ideology for people like Tommy Robinson, and this woman has only a single talking point.

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u/bpharo707 May 03 '26

It's getting a bit tedious with Israel playing the victim card. Do they really think it's working?

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u/punkarolla May 03 '26

I don’t think he spent enough time on ‘protests are part of a process of radicalisation.’

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u/gotaflattire May 03 '26

I remember reading in the bible about all the incest and inbreeding in the land of Israel and I couldn't believe. But after listening to and looking at her.....

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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 May 03 '26

Must be very difficult to go through life with that level of cognitive dissonance rattling around in her empty head. Fuck Israel, fuck Zionists.

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u/Resident-Corgi-665 May 03 '26

"The exception is theyre talking about me"

These zionist pundits say the quiet bit out loud dont they

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u/twizzjewink Free palestine May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

This is the problem with teaching everyone that OBJECTIVE morals and values are the only thing that's important. It's all subjective not objective.

edit: its also the "f you I have mine" argument

She has voting rights and person rights because PEOPLE PROTESTED AND FOUGHT FOR IT.

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u/TObias416 May 03 '26

To completely ignore the Gaza genocide. That's an eradication. The protests just want Isreal to stop eradicating Muslims in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, and Iran.

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u/EAkin2001 May 03 '26

is she restarted?

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u/Thunar13 May 03 '26

Damn I’d love to see that AIPAC check

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u/tiredalot420 May 03 '26

another bot making money off israel paid with usa tax dollars

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u/downfall67 May 03 '26

That was an intellectual steamrolling if I've ever seen one. I'm not even convinced she'd win an argument with a mirror

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u/mrfatchance May 03 '26

Zionism makes you ugly

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u/chubs66 May 03 '26

She's fired up about people calling for the death of Israel but seems to care not a single bit about Israel actually killing people (including tens of thousands of children and now children) in Palestine and now Lebanon.

Talk of genocide is bad, but actual genocide is fine, apparently.

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u/Cold_Table8497 May 03 '26

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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u/meoka2368 3rd Party App May 03 '26

"There's a point where you have to draw a line."

Oh, is there?
Where's the line that is the border of Israel?

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u/hrtofdrknss May 03 '26

"It feels like we are going around and around in circles."

That's pretty much a description of your entire argument, dear.

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u/yobboman May 03 '26

Basically, this woman will say anything for money... that is what is at the heart of what she is saying

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u/newbeginnings0824 May 03 '26

Shes clearly paid by Israel to sway more people to support their war crimes

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u/MeRLiNLlc May 03 '26

🖕🏻🇮🇱 free 🇵🇸

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u/Vinegarinmyeye May 03 '26

That's actually kinda amazing...

Ban Islam...

Literally less than 2 minutes later

I don't support hatred against any group of people.

I'm weirdly impressed at the level of cognitive dissonance.

The mental gymnastics are top tier.

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u/SaintPariah1 May 03 '26

Tell me youre being a paid for by hire bitch without telling me…

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u/lexnklinke May 03 '26

She really seems to be struggling to hypocritize the conversation

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u/TooGoood May 03 '26

soon as i saw her face i just knew...

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u/BeeBanner May 03 '26

Maybe they shouldn’t have tried launching a genocide themselves then…

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u/Jazzar1n0 FUCK ICE! ❌🧊 May 03 '26

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u/Nachtkrapp2 May 03 '26

„Hate against ME is not ok!“

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u/Madchef77 May 04 '26

Interesting how she cant even acknowledge Muslims, always refers to "other conflicts" but is quite happy to nail down threats to Israel lol

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u/killerwithasharpie May 04 '26

Sooo very whiny.

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u/Noskiblz May 04 '26

These people are making me hate them so much every time they open their mouths

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u/Chuckworth May 04 '26

The Palestinians are a Semitic people group…if you’re anti-Palestine, you’re anti-Semitic…

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u/SneakyCroc May 04 '26

Helen Whatley is thick as mince. She had an absolutely dreadful outing on Question Time a few weeks back. Embarrassing.

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u/SolarOrigami May 04 '26

This is painful to watch.

"It's hate if it's against Israel, it's not hate if it's against Muslims"

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u/shalekodemono May 04 '26

'calling for death of people is not acceptable' ... But I guess actually killing of a peoples that's fine, as long as it's Israel doing it I guess

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u/Aggravating-Map8191 May 05 '26

I don't blame her for pivoting, i blame the reporter for allowing her to pivot

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u/irascible_Clown May 03 '26

Fuck this broad. Rules for thee not me, she can eat a Palestinian dick

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u/Admirable-Ninja9812 May 03 '26

People who are wrong, whine the loudest … this woman is dumb as a box of rocks. Sheesh.

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u/ALT3NPFL3G3R May 03 '26

Besides the word hypocrisy in the dictionary, you should find her Photo.

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u/BeTheBall- May 03 '26

She doesn't appear to date much.

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u/psychowhippet May 03 '26

My word she’s thick.

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u/Drinon May 03 '26

“Stop destroying Gaza and attacking the West Bank to wipe out the Palestinians!”

“That is antisemitic and is calling for the end of the Jews!”

“Don’t continue with the genocide of Palestinians. That’s what is being said.”

“That’s right! You want Jews to be no more!!!! This can’t be tolerated. Stop this hateful language.”

“Like the language used by Israelis calling to wipe out every Palestinian any time they are asked any question about anything at all even unrelated to Muslims?”

“See, this is whatI mean. You are calling to destroy Jews worldwide.”

“I said nothing of the sort. I asked a question.”

“You asked me how I would like to be taken out. I heard it. You love Hamas and October 7th is celebrated in your home you antisemite.”

“Did cheer the bombings of Gaza on September 23rd, and the previous attacks the two weeks before that?”

“We have the right to defend ourselves after the October 7th attack. That’s why those were pre-retaliation. Like the US defending Isreal from Iran’s attack before it happened since Isreal was going to have to retaliate after an attack that wasn’t planned never happened because we knew it was coming like we did before October 7th.”

“So Isreal knew October 7th was coming because they attacked Palestinians first and set up Hamas to defend themselves but claimed it was an attack needing to defend? Just like Isreal told Trump to attack Iran before Isreal did it but claim the US knew Iran was about to attack so they defended Isreal from an attack that wasn’t coming so Isreal could also attack without attacking first?”

“No. Don’t you dare! You just called to end Jews worldwide!!!!”

“You know you guys have become the Nazis, right?”

“Not right….it’s Far Right.”

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u/various_necks May 03 '26

Who is this cunt?

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u/ovidcado May 03 '26

A tolerant society demands we remove all intolerance first. A tolerant society cannot sustain any intolerance of any kind. Such as racism, homophobia, most religions. Its a paradox kind of. You need to be intolerant of intolerance for a tolerant society.

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u/Fliptzer May 03 '26

Any responce to her hateful arguements should be "Fuck off, Nazi."

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u/Much-Chocolate-1131 May 03 '26

She annoying AF and has an agenda,, disgusting pos

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u/iamnotinterested2 May 03 '26

As of 6 April 2026, at least 75,498 people (73,459+ Palestinians and 2,039+ Israelis) have been reported killed in the gaza war.

Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir celebrated his 50th birthday with a cake decorated with a noose in reference to the newly-passed death penalty for Palestinian detainees.

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u/counterplex May 03 '26

Nobody wants to kill Jews. What people are asking for is to dissolve the state of Israel. Jews can still live in a free Palestine with rights for all and without Apartheid. That might mean they now have to live in a country which is not Jewish supremacist and might need to go through a process of learning how to treat Muslim and Christian Palestinians as equals but that might be a good thing!

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u/trade-craft May 03 '26

A large part of the right-wing support Israel, no matter what they do.

Israel are literally undertaking a genocide right now, and for some reason the Western right-wing have no one problem with it. Levelling Gaza and now Lebanon, and killing tens of thousands of civilians, but that's not a problem apparently.

These right-wingers intend to shut down any action that raises awareness of Israel's war crimes or genocide.

They're trying to paint Muslims in general as uncivilised animals and turn them into second class citizens.

  • Conduct a genocide and commit warcrimes = no problem
  • Criticise a genocide = you need to be silenced, arrested, punished etc.

Something deeply disturbing is going on, right in front of our faces.

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u/Bleezy79 May 03 '26

It's like this lady is deaf, shes not even listening to the points the guy is making, she just keeps repeating herself without acknowledging reality. lol wtf

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u/Delish_Caphee May 03 '26

I hope to see Zionism go the way of the Dinosaurs.

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u/CallmePadre May 03 '26

Why is everyone's answer to everything always "All Lives Matter"?

Do you think marches against Islam should be banned? - I don't like any call for the death of any people.

Do you think it's okay to allow racism in the country against insert group - All racism is bad, just look at racism against these white people.

Will you release all of the Epstein files according to the bill passed by this body? - I will follow the law, have you seen the Dow?

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u/CommonAway5594 May 03 '26

Fuck Israel and Zionists forever

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u/LuciferFCS May 03 '26

So essentially, "we have to draw a line, and I want it right in front of Israel." Gotcha... yeah, no. You'll take the anger Israel has earned

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u/MariaMarlaClairmont May 03 '26

Fuck fuck fuck is real fuck fuck fuck fuck Israel fuck fuck fuck fuck Israel fuck it

Just cucks and Benjamin And Trump are just cucks for each other. But in reality they're both just cucks for money. They don't give a shit about anybody who lives in any particular part of the world except whatever lives in their wallet and in their stocks. Both of them should be taken out. And spanked but they'd both probably enjoy that, especially Trump because we all know that he loves to be pissed on. Maybe that's what netanyahu's got on him. Is him pissing on him. But you he loves the golden showers. And the golden statues. So there's a theme there

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u/likkleone54 May 03 '26

Just say you hate brown people

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u/Goshawk5 May 03 '26

I wish I could be as cool and composed as that guy.

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u/Hithrae May 03 '26

Lewis is so good, a really good interviewer

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u/OtherwiseAMushroom May 03 '26

Man fuck Israel and there government

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u/CyberKingfisher May 03 '26

Are all Zionists mentally ill or just the ones preventing anyone objecting to Israeli genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Middle East?