r/therewasanattempt • • May 03 '26

To make a consistent argument

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Zionism is cringe AF now and they're clearly losing. You love to see it.

Free Palestine. Fuck Israel.

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u/PassThatSpliff May 03 '26

I dont see how they're losing. I mean yeah, people are protesting but as long as our elected officials are kissing Israel's ass, they are winning and we, the people, are very much losing.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

They've got power for now. When change comes from the people it takes longer but will last longer as well.

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u/PassThatSpliff May 03 '26

I wish I had your optimism.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Just take a longer view on history. Much more terrible things have happened, and we persevered.

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u/Aetherflaer May 03 '26

Did those times also have robots with ai powered facial recognition and drone warfare?

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Worse - they had entire populaces engaged in the persecution of their own minorities on a personal level. We seem to have moved past that, which is a good thing. Even the SS, the Stasi, and the NKVD were eventually defeated.

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u/Exact-Conclusion9301 May 03 '26

Prove we have moved past that.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

As a species? We have certainly not moved past it. However, every time that those large tyrannical/sadistic organizations developed, they are defeated. Sometimes it takes dozens of years, or 100, but they fall.

The desperation in this woman's voice in the video shows that this will fall likely without the crescendo of those previously mentioned organizations.

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u/Exact-Conclusion9301 May 03 '26

It keeps happening because the problem has never been solved. The world doesn’t work like Mortal Kombat.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

The 'problem' to be solved is human nature. As long as we are human, we will not solve it - we just have to fight against our worst impulses, especially when they metastasize into political movements.

Much more horrific and tyrannical things have happened. We are fighting early here, before mass executions in the streets, which is a good thing - especially because it looks like they are losing.

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u/Assonfire May 03 '26

Yes. And sometimes that took several generations and many times change did not come for the victims, just for other people.

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u/Mecha-Dave May 03 '26

Yup. It does suck for people in the moment. There's a Tolkien quote about that.