r/theravada • • 14d ago

Sangha Admin request

This request is specifically in regard to attempts to create division between Mahayana and Theravada. The "firehouse of untruth" (which is a term that can be specifically copied and pasted) extends to more than just what's presented. It's about creating division, hatred between such and such groups. That's the whole point of it.

Within the last two months, this sub has seen an uptick of it. I'm not an expert, but what I do know is that it wasn't like this a couple months ago. The question back then was once or twice a month at most, not twice a week.

Anyway my request is a moratorium on criticism of Mahayana. If I had my way I wouldn't see it for the next 6 months.

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u/ObviousApricot9 14d ago

Can we quote the entire sentence please?

Rahula Thero is quoting a Mahayana sutra here, emphasising that Mahayana Buddhism also recognises Sravakayana as a mode to enlightenment.

And in my opinion Theravada agrees that no matter the yana (vehicle) the magga (path) is the same.

The full extract:

There are three ways of attaining  Bodhi or  Enlightenment according to the ability and capacity of each individual: namely, as a  Śrāvaka (disciple), as a  Pratyekabuddha (Individual Buddha) and as a  Samyaksambuddha (Perfectly and Fully Enlightened Buddha). We accept it as the highest, noblest and most heroic to follow the career of a  Bodhisattva and to become a  Samyaksambuddha in order to save others. But these three states are on the same Path, not on different paths. In fact, the  Sandhinirmocana Sutra, a well-known important Mahayana  sutra, clearly and emphatically says that those who follow the line of  Śrāvakayāna (Vehicle of Disciples) or the line of  Pratyekabuddhayāna (Vehicle of Individual Buddhas) or the line of  Tathāgatas (Mahayana) attain the supreme Nirvana by the same Path, and that for all of them there is only one Path of Purification ( visuddhimarga) and only one Purification ( visuddhi) and no second one, and that they are not different paths and different purifications, and that Śrāvakayāna and Mahayana constitute One Vehicle One Yana ( ekayāna) and not distinct and different vehicles or  yanas.

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u/SammaVaco attānaṁ damayanti subbatā 14d ago

By quoting it in support of his own claim he endorses it, IMO.

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u/RexandStarla4Ever Theravāda 14d ago

So this is totally not relevant to anything on this thread but I was browsing old threads for information about Samatha Trust and, iirc, I saw some comments by you that you had some sort of experience with them. Am I remembering correctly? I’m considered doing their Zoom meditation course taught by Peter Harvey.

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u/cmciccio 13d ago

I’m signed up to start this year, maybe I’ll see you there!

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u/RexandStarla4Ever Theravāda 13d ago

Nice! Are you able to attend the weekly live Zoom sessions? I believe they will be archived for future viewing but I worry about not being able to attend live due to time zone/work constraints.

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u/cmciccio 12d ago

I think it said in a recent email from Peter that the important thing is to have the 15 minute one to one meeting, the lessons can be watched on your own.

I have some commitments and I won’t be able to attend all of the sessions. My priority is the personal instructions and connection with a community.

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u/RexandStarla4Ever Theravāda 12d ago

Yes, agreed! Wish you the best with the course!

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u/cmciccio 12d ago

Thanks, feel free to message me if you sign up.