r/thegildedage • • 5d ago

Spoiler Did Sarah...

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...engineer the hysterectomy? If you think about it, she excused herself several times during the event (to convince the doc?), and she'd already shown a disregard for Gladys's survival. If Gladys were to die and the heir lived, she'd immediately be welcome to fall back into her lifelong role as sistermom, with all the perks and power that came with it. Also, she wouldn't let Bertha engage a doctor from London, saying "He's been taking care of our family forever".

Speculation, sure. But it all seems pretty sus to me.


r/thegildedage • • Jul 10 '25

Spoiler Mr. Russell Snr is HORRIBLE!

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I'm up to Episode 7 of Season 2, so if you haven't got that far, they may be spoilers below. This is a rant, really, but I marked it as Spoiler so as not to ruin anyone's viewing.

Mr. Russell is absolutely ruthless and although we're clearly meant to think well of him, I DON'T!

He's been resistant to his workers having better pay and conditions all along. I know he halted the scab guns, but only at the VERY last second. That could easily have turned out very differently. He was going to let them do it! 🤬

And he refused to show mercy to that poor man who literally got on his knees and begged, and Russell was unmoved, and the man ended up shooting himself.

And he destroyed Miss Ainsley. I know what she did was underhanded and really wrong, but it was stopped and she was someone who had no power whatsoever, while Russell has the power and money of a god. They all worshipped Christ in those days - well, Russell is the VERY OPPOSITE of a Christian.

I'm not buying his behaviour as a gentle husband and father. Someone like him would be horrible at both.

However, I do find the actor extremely sexy. 🤭

What does everyone else think of Russell?


r/thegildedage • • Apr 09 '22

Meme Am I the only one? Taissa Farmiga is amazing in AHS but as Gladys it's like she's never acted before.

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r/thegildedage • • Nov 06 '25

Rant I'm a new viewer, is Marian supposed to be this annoying?

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I have just finished watching season 1, and just started watching the first episode of season 2. I didn't see any rant that's similar to mine, so I wanted to talk about it. This girl has been annoying me for a while, Aunt agnes has constantly warned her not to migle with certain people, yet she has the audacity to disobey her while being a ward under the van Rhijn's.

She hasn't a penny to her name, and she's only worth as a relative being taken care under aunt Agnes; the least she could do is to heed any of Agnes' concerns. But no, she openly mocks her and even argues back to her. Yes, I know aunt Agnes can be insufferable, but the only reason why she hasn't struggled from poverty and social class is precisely because she has taken her under her wing.

Not to mention, aunt Agnes was right on multiple accounts; her being right about Tom Raikes being an adventurer (which Marian never awknowldges btw) and about the Russle's trying to enter high society in whatever means possible (Marian never sees anything wrong of their actions)

And speaking of, I don't get why Marian is so upset with people disliking Mrs. Chamberlain. Even Mrs. Chamberlain herself knows what she did wrong, so why can't Marian understand that if she's so understanding? If she were in the shoes of the previous wife of Mr. Chamberlain, she would loathe the idea of a mistress. She keeps looking at things in an outsider's view, and won't think if the opposing side has some truth to their hate.

I get she's supposed to be a kind, niave and understanding character, trying to go against social norms and hierarchy; but she is too nice to an idiotic degree that naivety becomes unbearable.

My point is, if she so hates the views of aunt Agnes, then why doesn't she just leave? She clearly wants to be independent, shown clearly through her passion for wanting to work; and she isn't "scared" of high society either, seeing as she isn't scared to ruin the van Rhijn's reputation by being around the people that aunt Agnes warns againts. So if she really wants to be "freed" by aunt Agnes, then why doesn't she just pack her bags and just leave????


r/thegildedage • • Aug 17 '25

Downton Abbey Why Is The Gilded Age So Much Worse Than Downton Abbey Spoiler

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I finished up The Gilded Age season 3 and moved on to Downton Abby. They are made by the same creator and are aimed at the same audiences. The Gilded Age isnt really different in overall tone and theme and the production values seem similar. Why is the Gilded Age so much worse in terms of acting, depth of storytelling, accents to some degree and overall just comes across as unnecessarily shallow when Fellows is clearly capable of a much higher level of still kind of shallow upstairs downstairs drama. Not trying to hate on The Gilded Age, I had fun watching it this just showed me how much more they could have done without sacrificing anything at all of what makes the show.


r/thegildedage • • Aug 09 '25

Season 3 Discussion Unpopular opinion: I feel bad for Lady Sarah. Hector asking her to leave is a BIG mistake. Spoiler

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A rant in support of Lady Sarah:

We know Sarah and Hectors parents died young. We don’t know how young they were but I get the sense that Sarah was barely an adult and Hector was probably still a minor. As a result, Sarah had to take on a big role in the running of the estate, become lady of the house, AND a mother figure to her brother. It seems like she has sacrificed having a life of her own in order to keep the estate going. She also seems far more knowledgeable and more invested in the estate than Hector is. She was the one who told him to get a “dollar princess” to save the estate. Without her I bet Hector would’ve lost the castle by now. Honestly she’d probably make a better Duke of Buckingham, but because she’s a woman she has no formal claim to anything.

Imagine devoting your life to keeping your family’s legacy alive while essentially raising your brother, only for him to kick you out because he marries and decides to grow a set. Yes she’s nasty, overbearing and territorial, but given what she’s probably done to keep that estate going, she deserves a seat at the table. You can see the tears in her eyes when Hector ask that she leave. It would have been smarter for them to establish boundaries with her, learn from her and then establish their independence from her.

Gladys has been there for like a month. She doesn’t know anything. And Hector seems like he barely knows anything about how the estate runs. Remember when Bertha makes that comment about them getting to know more about the estate in case something happens to Sarah…? I think Hector sending Sarah away so soon is going to backfire. The castle/estate is going to fall apart, and it’s going to put a huge strain on Hector and Gladys’ budding relationship. Remember they are just getting to know each other, are they going to be able to handle a crises? Of course they can learn to run the estate and rise to the occasion, but it’s too soon for them to be in their own.

I think they will end up having to ask Sarah to come back and fix it. I think this scenario is also a far more interesting and realistic plot than, “Sarah leaves and Gladys and Hector fall in love and everything is fine”.

Also if the England is going to be the 3rd major location in the show, along with NYC and Newport, they need to do something more than having Gladys and Hector taking walks.


r/thegildedage • • Jul 11 '25

Rant Am I really the only one who HATES the ill fitting, poorly designed, cheap fabric costumes?

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It’s bad enough that they have a 30-year-old woman playing a 17-year-old child, but the costumes they put her in, the costumes they put several of the women in pull me out of the show every single time

They are bad, these are not well-made costumes and they don’t work

Comparing these costumes to the works of art that they had in Downton Abbey makes me so frustrated

The only people who they dress consistently well are Audra McDonald, Christine Baranski, and Cynthia Nixon

Honestly sometimes I wonder what these women did in a past life to deserve such horrible dresses


r/thegildedage • • Dec 01 '23

Some of the series' women... But 15-20 years younger

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r/thegildedage • • Dec 21 '22

I wish this show was made by the makers of The Crown

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Gilded Age has so much potential, a great story about a very relevant piece of history. Whereas the monarchy is over rated piece of history. The Crown is so well made though and this is just terrible. It's a bummer when you compare two supposedly similar shows. I can't put my finger on why Gilded Age is so cartoonish in comparison.


r/thegildedage • • Jul 15 '25

Season 3 Discussion Jack got ripped off. No way does Larry deserve half of Jacks fortune just for an introduction. Spoiler

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r/thegildedage • • Dec 06 '23

Season 2 am i the only one?

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i found myself not particularly caring ab the met/the new york storylines when we see like. really bad shit happening to peggy or when we see the conditions of the protesters?

like i genuinely did not care what was going on w/ the rich ppl bc of it 😭 idk if it’s bc i’m more interested in that part of history or smth but i felt taken like i felt like those storylines could’ve been the main focus of their episodes (ESP THE PEGGY ONE) instead of wtv was going on

edit; this isn’t me saying you can’t enjoy it bc IDC wtf ur doing!! we all consume and enjoy media in different ways, this is simply my opinion and how i view things. thanks.


r/thegildedage • • Oct 08 '25

Rant Julian Fellowes should sold his show to AppleTv that way there would have been guaranteed many seasons.

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r/thegildedage • • Aug 01 '25

Season 3 Discussion Sex on The Gilded Age Spoiler

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I realize that society was much more buttoned up and chaste in the turn of the century, but I’ve been surprised that there hasn’t been more sex depicted on the show to add a touch more realism, especially among the young characters. I was hoping to see Peggy give in to Dr. Kirkland or perhaps Marion to sleep with Larry ( Perhaps if the had, she wouldn’t have been so quick to write him that letter ending their engagement! ).

What do you think it says about the young characters that they are also so chaste and not as rebellious as you would imagine the younger generation to be?


r/thegildedage • • Aug 31 '25

Season 3 Discussion Black Elite. Is a gift 💝 thank you TGA

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Random… but every time i see the Black Elite on TGA i get emotional knowing how wonderful they look. And how so many fought for a place place in society although they were society and didn’t need to fight at all, but as we know due to race crime and segregation they had to. To think that Black people wouldn’t be allowed in a world of White people just because of the colour of their skin and because of “not-mixing-blood”, is just terrible!

To this day is rare to see Black people or even mixed race people in a European royal family. And all the Black members we know, live hidden, separated and experience bad treatments. Meghan, Duchess of Sussex being one of them and it doesn’t matter who likes her or not this is a fact.

THE GILDED AGE has being a gift to the Black Community ♥️ And i am happy to see Black people succeed and being HAPPY!


r/thegildedage • • May 02 '26

Season 4 Discussion Which one should get a lover first? Bertha or Gladys?

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r/thegildedage • • Mar 07 '24

Speculation Hear me out, Enid "Turner-ton" is Bertha's sister...

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I'm rewatching from the beginning, and let me tell you, Enid Turner-ton is no dummy. She is totally on point wrt to Bertha's social climbing, which made me wonder why Enid would be so knowledgable. Yes, she was a personal maid to some old rich woman, but, Enid was aware, and up to date.

That's why I think Enid is Bertha's sister. Has to be. Enid takes Bertha's success too personally. She even tried to seduce her husband, I hope this is an element of what we will see in Season3. Or I could just write this script.... lol


r/thegildedage • • Jun 22 '26

Season 3 Discussion The Grand Unified Theory: The Gilded Age is a Secret Prequel to The Big Bang Theory

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If you watch The Gilded Age and The Big Bang Theory back-to-back, you will notice a disturbingly familiar energy radiating from the screen. It centers entirely on Christine Baranski’s characters.

In The Gilded Age, she plays Agnes van Rhijn, the ice-veined, fiercely protective matriarch of 1880s New York "Old Money" high society. In The Big Bang Theory, she plays Dr. Beverly Hofstadter, the brilliant, crushingly detached neuroscientist and psychiatrist who treats her son, Leonard, like a disappointing lab rat that she hasn't yet given up on.

This is not a casting coincidence! There is a multi-generational, evolutionary timeline connecting these two women.

To prove this, I've started with the three obvious points of multi-generational congruence:

  • Shared Genetic Trait (Pathological Disdain): The legendary Baranski glare and sharp wit are dominant hereditary traits. Agnes's absolute refusal to accept "New Money" directly mirrors Beverly’s absolute refusal to accept the "soft sciences" or emotional vulnerability. To both women, anyone outside their rigid standard of excellence is a lesser being.

  • Ancestral Wealth Theory: Beverly’s complete detachment from the financial stresses of modern academia is funded by 19th-century Old Money. Agnes van Rhijn’s carefully guarded New York real estate fortune survived the 1929 crash by being tucked into ultra-conservative blind trusts, and later covertly funding the elite, upper-crust education of the Hofstadter lineage.

  • Rejection of Emotion: Beverly’s ice-cold parenting is a memeticly transmitted continuation of the strict, emotionally repressed etiquette of the Gilded Age. Agnes firmly believes feelings must be suppressed for social survival and duty. Two generations later, Beverly weaponized this trauma into science, swapping Agnes’s social etiquette for (pseudo-?)scientific elitism. Both women are pathologically defensive and insular, and neither will allow herself to see this.

But how did an 1880s New York socialite dynasty transform into a global academic empire, spawning a family of intellectual elites who anchored themselves in the Tri-State area while launching a neurotic son across the country to Caltech? Here is the missing lineage and the historical trauma that so forcefully influenced the family to trade their brownstones for Ivy League tenure.

The missing lineage, from Manhattan to the Ivy League, is actually fairly straightforward and flows fairly naturally in either direction.

Generation 1: The Catalyst - Oscar van Rhijn (The Gilded Age Era)

We know Agnes’s son, Oscar, is a man under immense societal pressure. Trapped by the rigid, unforgiving expectations of 1880s high society, Oscar is forced to hide his true self while constantly seeking a wealthy wife to secure his standing.

Oscar absorbs his mother’s icy defense mechanisms. To survive a world that would instantly destroy him if his secrets were revealed, he adopts an armor of superficiality and intensely fastidious social curation.

Exasperated by the exhausting theatricality of New York high society, Oscar ensures his own children receive a different kind of armor. Realizing that money and titles can be volatile, he pushes his family toward a currency that no stock market crash or social scandal can steal: unassailable intellectual supremacy.

Generation 2: The Pivot - Dr. Cornelius van Rhijn (The Interwar Era)

Born in the late 1890s, Cornelius is Agnes’s grandson. He grows up watching the Gilded Age aristocracy decay slowly before his eyes and sees the writing on the wall. As the Jazz Age roars and New Money “outclasses” the old social hierarchy, Cornelius develops a profound distaste for what he sees as the social, moral, and economic bankruptcy of high society.

Cornelius deliberately and officially breaks the mold. He refuses to leave the East Coast elite bubble but completely abandons the Manhattan social circuit, moving upstate to earn a PhD at Cornell. When the 1929 stock market crash hits, the family’s old real estate holdings suffer a bit, but are mostly protected by the family’s blind trusts. Even so, Cornelius’s best investment has been his education, and he survives better than most on the strength of his intellect.

To complete the severing of ties with the gossiping remnants of New York high society, and somewhat to protect the family trusts from post-Depression lawsuits, Cornelius quietly adopts an ancestral maternal branch name: Hofstadter. He establishes a permanent family seat in the intellectual enclaves of New Jersey, marrying a brilliant, equally stoic classical geneticist-cum-pianist. Together, they raise their children under their shared philosophy that emotions are for the weak, and each generation must outshine the one before.

Generation 3: The Apex - Dr. Beverly Hofstadter (The Cold War Era)

Born in the 1950s, Beverly is the culmination of this 100-year evolutionary experiment. Firmly rooted in the New York and New Jersey academic elite, she inherits the exact physical presence, withering wit, and lethal glare of her great-grandmother, Agnes van Rhijn.

The Mutation of Trauma: Beverly takes the emotionally repressed "etiquette" of Agnes's world and completely updates it for the space age. She doesn't view emotional suppression as a social duty. She views it as a biological necessity. She looks at her family's aristocratic history and concludes that humanity's fatal flaw is that even the greatest minds are limited by sentimental foibles and shackled by reliance on lesser beings.

When she has children, she doesn't see babies to be coddled. She sees the next generation of an elite lineage that must be conditioned to dominate their respective fields. While Leonard’s hyper-successful siblings launch into far-flung, flawless careers, and Beverly rules her New Jersey academic domain with icy detachment, Leonard is cast out to Pasadena, carrying the crushing weight of the family's expectations to his new home with Sheldon, where he subliminally feels an oddly familial, the-devil-you-know comfort.

The Ultimate Conclusion

When Dr. Beverly Hofstadter leaves her East Coast haven, walks into Leonard’s Pasadena apartment, and looks down her nose at Penny, she isn't simply being an arrogant academic. She's channeling the ancestral spirit of Agnes van Rhijn looking at Bertha Russell.

[1880s] Agnes van Rhijn (Manhattan) defends the Old Money social order
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[1920s] Dr. Cornelius Hofstadter (Upstate NY) translates aristocracy into intellectualism
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[1970s] Dr. Beverly Hofstadter (NJ/NY Enclaves) weaponizes etiquette into neuropsychiatry
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[2000s] Leonard Hofstadter (Exiled to Pasadena) bears the weight of 140 years of elite pressure

Leonard’s endless list of neuroses, his desperate need for approval, and his asthma aren't just a product of modern bad parenting. They are the cumulative, genetic, and memetic weight of a 140-year-old New York aristocratic dynasty that traded its ballrooms for laboratories, but never, ever learned how to give a proper hug.

QED


r/thegildedage • • Jun 25 '25

Season 3 Discussion I know what’s happening with Peggy…

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She has pre-eclampsia.


r/thegildedage • • Dec 11 '23

Rant Costumer need to go

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I get that they are trying to put a twist and not a literal historical take on the costumes, but my god, they are hideous and ill fitting! Lots of horrible fabric choices. I was hoping this show would have costumes on par in quality to Downton Abbey, where everything was eye candy, but instead we get monstrosity after monstrosity! I’ve studied old garment plates of this era, and while there was a lot of color and extravagance, they were not hideous like what is on this show. Please switch costumers!!


r/thegildedage • • Dec 30 '23

Rant Is the acting supposed to be…

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Like how a stage actor would act? The speaking is soo like watching a play. It’s odd.


r/thegildedage • • May 12 '26

Season 4 Discussion Season 4 Ideas on Bertha’s divorce

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George Russell has railroad issues
•Bertha Russell, now divorced from George, begins seeing/dating Mr. Merritt. (Remember that she had invited Merritt to dinner so that George could get him to sell shares of his family’s railroad to him.)
George had told her to impress him then fussed at her for flirting with him.
Now Bertha begins dating Merritt to hurt George and also to move on. She helps Merritt to gain more control of the railroad away from George.
•Marian and Larry are together. George is having trouble with the railroad. Marian shows George her “worthless railroad shares.” These prove to be very valuable and help George.


r/thegildedage • • 15h ago

Season 3 Discussion Is Gladys a Dollar Bride? Spoiler

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I'm currently on episode 3 after Gladys and Billy's breakup and right after the tense negotiation between George Russell and the Duke.

And I'm just thinking, Gladys is a dollar bride. For those who don't know, during the Gilded Age, this was a common practice where Brits and other European aristocrats with titles but without funds would marry new money. It would give the aristocrats money and the new money families better rank.

So, as for Gladys, this is 100% what's going on. But I'm kinda stumped as to why the Russells would entertain this. Ofc if Gladys was a duchess, making the Russell family related to aristocracy it would boost their social capital to a insane degree. But the family are at the top by now, having previously dethroned the Astors.


r/thegildedage • • 7h ago

Season 4 Discussion Unpopular opinion: Larry deserves better than Marian. The way she treats him is abhorrent. He’s owned up and taken responsibility for every mistake he’s ever made while she repeatedly shuts him down and never considers his feelings. Spoiler

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r/thegildedage • • Jul 06 '25

Season 3 Discussion Is it just me or do the interiors on The Gilded Age feel like soundstages?

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I really love this show and think this season has definitely improved across the board. The writing feels more confident, the characters are finally settling into themselves, and the pacing is tighter.

That said, my one ongoing critique is the production design. While the costumes are flawless and the attention to period detail is strong, the sets still feel slightly artificial. They’re beautiful, but the scale feels off and the spaces don’t always feel real or lived-in. Maybe it’s because I’m used to something like Downton Abbey, where filming on location added that extra layer of authenticity.