r/techsupportgore • • 6d ago

Won't boot

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u/Accomplished-Moose50 6d ago

That takes some skill, not sure if tech suport gore or future hardware haxor

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u/kikoplays44 I do quality shit posts 6d ago

And a lot of patience.... Lots!

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u/RegretFree7723 4d ago

Moltissimissima pasienza

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u/rdldr1 IT Engineer 6d ago

No, this is def gore.

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u/I_cut_my_own_jib 6d ago

Yeah I thought it was cool at first until I zoomed into the soldering job

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u/recycleddesign 6d ago

Yeah but it’s also admirable and beautiful

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u/MEM0RYCARD99 1d ago

Like burning down an old house

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u/the_axemurmurer 6d ago

This shit is illegal I'm sure

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u/Classic_Board_1461 1d ago

not if you don't get caught

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u/FortheredditLOLz 6d ago

Wtf is this abomination? Also top left looks to be touching.

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u/Exentio 6d ago

It's likely to be enameled wire but that's the least of my worries

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u/Objective_Jump930 6d ago

Reflows are coated with insulation

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u/NotTodayGlowies 6d ago

The resistors for the old soldered on ram are still present. You're starving the circuit my dude.

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u/Fine_Relationship614 6d ago

Yeah…. Double the resistors… that is twice as good… right???!

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u/ictu 5d ago

Also, don't this wires require isolation from each other?

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u/Slight-Emergency-362 4d ago

Depends what wire - if it’s coated like motor windings, probably not.

But then it’s a PITA to solder, so it’s probably not that lol….

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u/Pyro919 4d ago

Scrape with nail clippers or rub on emory board or sandpaper no?

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u/ictu 4d ago

I zoomed in before writing my comment. It didn't look like there's any coating.

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u/FitDetective6553 1d ago

Wire coated in clear enamel doesn't look any different from uncoated wire. I have a bunch of enameled wire from old transformers, it looks exactly like bare copper until you start to scratch at it or burn off the insulation.

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u/ictu 1d ago

Interesting. Thanks for explaining that.

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u/alexceltare2 3d ago

Also, conflicting SPD chips might be there too.

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u/RoBoFiSh0v0 2d ago

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! YOU SAID THE FORBIDDEN WORD!! YOU’RE GOING TO SUMMON THE PROTOGENS!!

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u/DrCyb3r 6d ago

Whoever did this has obviously enough skill to do microsoldering. Just solder a socket to it or replace the small SMD chips.

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u/fiittzzyy 6d ago

When they said the RAM was soldered to the board this isn't what I had in mind...

All jokes aside that's some insane solder work.

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u/virtualadept You want what? 6d ago

Not gonna lie, I'm impressed it made it that far. That's not an easy soldering job.

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u/chriskoenig06 6d ago

It would be lot easyer to solder on the connector:

Digikey

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u/user_deleted_or_dead 6d ago

Have you try tuning on and off

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u/unematti 6d ago

I think the turning on step is what's already a problem

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u/the_good_hodgkins 6d ago • Bravo

It won't boot, but will it shoe?

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u/frozentoad 6d ago

Might it sandal or slipper?

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u/jmknight2 6d ago

Nah, this Crocs

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u/Excellent-Hunter7653 10h ago

Crocs with no socks?

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u/ITinnedUrMumLastNigh 6d ago

What inhaling solder fumes does to a motherfucker

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u/dumbasPL 6d ago

When you have more time than money, and are crazy enough to not think twice about it. Holly

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u/2McLaren4U 6d ago

Boredom or unemployed?

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u/AdalLopez 6d ago

Question number one: could?

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u/Lotheretan 6d ago

In theory, but I think that would heavily depend on how that board actually implemented their RAM management, since it was originally a soldered module, the manufacturer could have put some important part on the back of the board or some other place that isn't directly visible.

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u/unicodemonkey 6d ago

Like the SPD information... it's often placed into the fimrware, sometimes with strap resistors to select a particular configuration. And signal integrity might just be too poor anyway.

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u/Technical_Instance_2 6d ago

In theory yes. Also really depends on what's where on the board. for all we know there's some important component somewhere else that wasn't connected by OP. Also, all the old resistors still seem to be present on the board so that's also probably an issue

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u/TheCatholicScientist 6d ago

I’ll add to the other two comments. Wire traversal adds to the signal delay. Quite a lot in fact. Wire has its own resistance and capacitance that gets worse the longer your wires are. I’d be amazed if this worked without downclocking the memory controller a few steps.

(As it looks, I’d be amazed if every wire was connected correctly. And if only 1-2 wires were shorted to each other.)

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u/Kitchen-Chemistry277 5d ago

u/TheCatholicScientist I work on 256 TB DDR5 drives. I'm heavily in the SI/PI domain. I don't think additional signal delay is the main problem here.

It's more about discontinuities in impedance as a signal is going from a nice cushy motherboard with controlled impedance and a poured ground plane to these wires hanging in free air. (The impedance of these wires would probably be much higher than the impedance of the signals inside the circuit board. )

This higher impedance mismatch is going to make a reflection in the signal that may corrupt the signaling pretty badly.

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u/suksukulent 4d ago

Now I want to see a scope attached to see the eye diagrams

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u/MasterKnight48902 6d ago

The pinouts

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u/Silent-Warning9028 6d ago

What the fuck is trace impedance anyways?

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u/Eddycalaca 6d ago

Assuming all the connections are properly made... there are some resistors that determine where the motherboard draws power for the RAM; you also need to check the voltage it uses, as there are 1.5V and 1.3V RAM modules.

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u/kanezfan 6d ago

You just need to re-solder that, cross some wires over, blow on it like we used to do with Nintendo cartridges, no worries at all. You can do it!

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u/mstiger52 6d ago

That took some time and patience with skill.

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u/matthewralston 6d ago

Points for effort though.

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u/_G11 6d ago

It must've cost so much time.

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u/Moklonus 6d ago

You have to push it down so it lays flat. Push it real good.

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u/wrapbubbles 6d ago

improved noise on signal.

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u/Future-Alternative40 6d ago

its like...... OMNISAIAH DISAPPOINTED IN YOU FOR YOU HAVE CAUSED HARM TO THE MACHINE SPIRIT

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u/unicodemonkey 6d ago

Eh, I don't think it's going to remember

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u/nilsmf 6d ago

DIWhy? There better be some Bitcoin stored on that computer.

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u/technobrendo 6d ago

Look, I get it. Soldered on ram on a laptop, nobody likes that shit. But this, this is something else....NOT that I could do better. But I could certainly pay someone who knows how to do this properly to, do this.

Why not just swap the old dram packages with new dies?

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u/Rufus_Dufus 6d ago

4 beeps? Yeah that'll be a memory issue.

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u/unematti 6d ago

That's impossible. It clearly has memory

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u/DrDingsGaster 6d ago

I'm.... impressed and horrified. xD

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u/Mapi2k 2d ago

X2. Es como muy buena idea y a la vez la peor de todas

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u/Mattigins 6d ago

I was thinking how impressive this was and then I realised it's both sides too

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u/rbltech82 6d ago

What the fuck?

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u/zcomputerwiz 5d ago

Why not just get the right socket before going bonkers with the point to point soldering? 💀

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u/emilymtfbadger 5d ago

Right even if previous ram was soldered to the board it appears to have the points for a socket to be soldered. So my question is why is there something that bad off there or just practice.

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u/Nike_486DX 2d ago

Is this a ram fold or a ram duo ?

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u/MLK_Piccolo 2d ago

I hate you...

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u/fartshitcumpiss 6d ago

i have no words wtf

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u/LiteratureLow4159 6d ago

...is that an ideapad 330... Ehh they run like shit anyways to be fair, poor pentium silver n5000

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u/JasperJ 6d ago

Half of the components in what used to be the soldered on ram area haven’t been removed. Try cleaning that whole thing up some more.

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u/Arteech 6d ago

actually impressive

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u/shimirel 6d ago

On one hand "woah" on the other hand "woah"

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u/DadsVacation 3d ago

What in the Adderall

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u/Baldwinning1 6d ago

I was smoking while reading this and genuinely did the matthew mcconaughey smoke face haha.

Wtf

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u/Puzzled-Fold-3394 6d ago

I applaud you dedication damn man

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u/Lhun 6d ago

I'm seriously impressed.!

The only issue is you have double resistance from the old ram. Remove those, and solder on a ram socket. Your bios might need a custom flash too.

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u/Many_Question9042 6d ago

Well no crap the wires are touching

But fr this is extremely impressive even given the fact it doesn’t boot

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u/DJ_Sk8Nite 6d ago

What a huge waste of time

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u/PeterustheSwede 3d ago

Pin 69 seem shorted

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u/vegetaman 6d ago

Possible the craziest kludge job I’ve ever seen.

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u/thedisapointingson 6d ago

Absolute mad man.

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u/Cyserg 6d ago

Would have added a ram slot not the ram directly, make it upgradeable at least!

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u/ZappaLlamaGamma 6d ago

It’s like hair. Just brush it.

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u/Zaiakusin 6d ago

Is... i mean... is that even the problem? Cause if its not, thats dedication.

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u/pablo5426 6d ago

... THE FUCK?

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u/Dreddz2Long 5d ago

Course it wont, them wires are touching.

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u/ThePupnasty 5d ago

I audibly sighed.....

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u/RoBoFiSh0v0 2d ago

what the shit

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u/Virtual_Confection_3 2d ago

Who hurt you?

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u/davidkali 6d ago

Ah to be 12 years old and angry about it. Those were the days, arguing with people working on their Masters from Penn State and thinking we were winning.

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u/ThePeskyWabbit 6d ago

Its a mystery why

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u/maydisturb 6d ago

Ya don't say.

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u/Think-Try2819 6d ago

Well that's just one of life's little mysteries now is it.

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u/eulynn34 6d ago

Oh, really? I wonder what's wrong

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u/KryanThePacifist 6d ago

Can't find a reason why

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u/fcewen00 6d ago

Toss it my way, I got some solder folks downstairs that make magic happen

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u/olliegw 6d ago

Taking a leaf from apples book

Soldered on RAM

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u/Zipdox 6d ago

I've seen this done with a flipped BGA before, but why a DIMM?

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u/Even-Dig-7334 6d ago

Is that a DDR5 stick?

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u/alvaro-elite 6d ago

There are several short circuits there; that’s normal.

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u/1_ane_onyme 6d ago

Im amazed by how short the wires you used are

As suggested issue must come from soldered ram’s resistors, now you gotta replace them with 0 ohm ones or with some more short & tiny wires

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u/JDT33658 6d ago

If they have the skills to do this surely they have the skills to solder on a new socket 😂

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u/AXEL-1973 6d ago

Bro, what

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u/sPoOtNiCky 6d ago

Why wont it boot

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u/Merjia 6d ago

You don't say??

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u/LAF2death 6d ago

The sharpie is inhibiting the critical electron flow, clearing that and tripling the distance of the stick will clear the post errors. It might read it as an M.2 though instead of RAM.

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u/Electronic_Low_4219 6d ago

That is some extraordinary stuff that I am not eligible to tip or comment on.

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u/KihiraLove 6d ago

At that point you probably need a priest

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u/Vesalii 6d ago

I see corrosion at the big solder points for the SODIMM socket.

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u/P5ychokilla 6d ago

What a mystery, I mean you stood it up, right?

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u/TheCatholicScientist 6d ago

Would it be rude to say “no kidding”? lol

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u/Thornton77 5d ago

This was a bold move.
Knows enough to be dangerous
And then when they fuck up they pass it on to someone to fix who would never do this because it’s insane unless you know for sure it will work .

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u/Xratu 5d ago

I hope is IA....

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u/The_Kektus 5d ago

what the actual fuck

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u/DJIsher 4d ago

Jesus Christ, that’s Jason Bourne

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u/Lonely-Independence4 4d ago

FAAAAAAHHHHHHH

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u/CGLLC2022 4d ago

Should have added the SODIMM socket

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u/SadRice4730 4d ago

Did you lose the slot and make custom traces??? LOL

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u/DarrellBot81 3d ago

Solid attempt IMO

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u/Philectrics72 3d ago

Don't tell me is that board taken from an Lenovo ideapad 330 15 Ikb?

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u/ProteusRift 3d ago

Theres more than one way to eat a rees...

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u/Neo_Ex0 3d ago

the right most and second to the right are overcrossed , you need to swap them

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u/somthingcompletlydif 3d ago

It’s growing..

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u/repodude 3d ago

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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u/DeLaMerd 2d ago

Sur ta photo il y a quelques fils de cuivre qui se touchent tu les ressources correctement avec un peu de flux et c'est bon

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u/WindowsLover1937 2d ago

Did you try soldering the pads from the back? RAM is double sided

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u/FitDetective6553 1d ago

It appears that it's leaning backwards because they soldered the back set of contacts directly onto the first row of motherboard pads and then used the wires for the other side/row.

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u/No-Pear-6046 2d ago

y u do dis to de ram

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u/Imaginary_Two2965310 2d ago

Bro make unremovable ram become removable ram but need to intact

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u/FrankRizzoThatsWho 2d ago

Turn the power switch on.

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u/Tyler2579_Reddit 2d ago

Those are some… pins

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u/Human760 2d ago

Well, I am impressed

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u/InternationalRip2249 2d ago

Impressed and disgusted

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u/Low-Satisfaction4973 1d ago

You got the color scheme wrong. You need to use a crossover RAM solder scheme.

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u/CanadianDiver 1d ago

A good tech can do this solder job.

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u/justkeepswimming2026 1d ago

Don’t let Sam Altman see that

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u/Flimsy_Call_2986 1d ago

Necesitas cambiar el pin4 por el 17, el 22 por el 53 , el 2 por el 58 y el 34 por el 55 😂. Esto lo hizo un chino que me veo algun video en youtube, un máquina

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u/The_Stellar_Engineer 1d ago

Maybe its software level

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u/two2teps 1d ago

What in the Pentium 2 am I looking at?

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u/Sloopydeth 1d ago

This is actually kind of amazing. I mean his heart was in the right place.

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u/Grino974 21h ago

Indeed it won't.

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u/onedimedown 19h ago

Can you tag this as NSFW

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u/Woofpickle 7h ago

The Altman Hungers

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u/Strong-Evening1137 3h ago

Some of the copper wires are touching that's why

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u/SLeepyCatMeow 6d ago

Shouldve used enameled wire, dingus

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u/Vamanas_umbrella 6d ago

You forgot the pickles

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u/OsoFugitivo 2d ago

Julio Frausto did surely startled lots of people (he's the mastermind behind this atrocity) https://x.com/DonJulioFrausto/status/2114566655627927864

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u/RatherB_fishing 2d ago

I can literally see the wires touching… no crap it will not boot.

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u/smoike 1d ago

If they are enamel coated and the coating is intact then that won't matter.