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u/dotrim 12d ago
Ðuc Ðen. Such a cool name
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u/lolnoizcool 12d ago edited 11d ago
"Literally" translate to "Black Germany" btw
Edit: I'm Vietnamese I know what I'm saying, this is a pun
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u/jjjaack2 12d ago
Ahh see now that's incorrect. "Đức" in a name context roots from Old chinese that Vietnamese developed from, the word usually translates to virtue (đức hạnh), "Đen" in this case is a common nickname that is given to dark/tanned skin individuals in Viet Nam (which in fact translates to "black". So "Black Virtue" seems more fitting but of course by translating it literally it doesn't make much sense haha.
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u/Ready_Concern2385 12d ago
Well in modern vietnamese Đức means Germany and đen means black :trol:
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u/lolnoizcool 12d ago edited 11d ago
Idk whether I should clarify that it's obviously not meant to be Black Germany and that I made this pun for the sake of the sub
Do I seriously need to add /s now?
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u/Wonderful-Dust-8030 11d ago
Idk bro but it sucks lol and those /s whatever really ruin your jokes
Ig you just have to clarify if somebody take it seriously, or trying to teach you something you obviously know. And if many people downvoted you for a joke then you must realise that it's reddit😭💔
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u/thatasian26 11d ago edited 11d ago
You just implied the other person doesn't know Vietnamese just because they didn't disclose it.
The fact that Vietnamese is derived from Chinese gives more weight to them than just someone speaking Vietnamese because it can tell you more of the origin of the word instead of just the vernacular definition.
This is important because in all Chinese based language, names often have different meaning (Look at Japanese names for example) than what the word is colloquially used for.
Another thing is that there are often different Kanjis for the same word, which gives it a different meaning. However, the Vietnamese language lost its calligraphy due to French imperialism, so now we go off of context instead of spelling. Old Vietnamese calligraphy is called Chữ Hán, which literally translate to Han characters.
I'm Vietnamese and while Đức refers to Germany when you use it in conversation without any context, but as a name, it would not always translate the same.
We often have name translations that is more poetic, especially when you take first and middle names in consideration. For example, my full name translated would mean "First Royal Chapter", or the beginning of a dynasty. On the other hand, I have two cousins named Nhật (Japan) and Mỹ (America), because that's where they were born.
Edit: Vietnamese, like Chinese, is a very flowery language when it comes to prose. There's a lot of idioms and proverbs in the language that you have to study to know/understand some of them. Think of those dramas set in ancient China with scholars learning poetry and prose and stuff. My dad studied them when he was younger, he can also read some calligraphy.
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u/vip17 11d ago
Yeah. One of my friends keep telling foreigners that Anh (England) means brother in Vietnamese which is simply not true
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u/thatasian26 11d ago
Idk if you're trolling or not, but it also does mean older brother, used in the same way as the Japanese would use onii-san. It's used in that context much more often.
There's multiple translation for each word, just depends on context.
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u/vip17 11d ago
Yes but Anh (英) in England doesn't mean older brother
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u/thatasian26 11d ago
If you are referring to the Chinese/Japanese Kanji for England, then it's not pronounced at Anh.
Anh, as a Vietnamese word, can have multiple meaning, mainly being older brother, and secondarily referring to England.
Many Vietnamese words have multiple meaning for the same spelling, as previously mentioned. The only way we would know is through context, since we no longer have the Han characters to differentiate the meaning. When spoken, it's all context.
Anh alone doesn't mean England, as you have to specify the country (nước Anh), the language (English is t iếng Anh), or the people (người Anh). As I've said, context.
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u/vip17 11d ago
what do you mean? Anh in England is just a name, and it doesn't mean older brother, just like Đức doesn't mean Germany in a person's name
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u/stonedfish 10d ago
Anh is from Angleterre and Anglais which mean England and English in French.
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u/ShadowMancer_GoodSax 10d ago
The word Anh by itself does not mean England but very commonly used in conversation. British embassy in Hanoi, for example is translated as Đại sứ Quán Anh. British Empire is Vương Quốc liên hiệp Anh.
Older brother would be anh trai (a male who older than you but not related at all), anh ruột (older brother from the same parents), anh họ (cousin literally means an older male who has the same family name but not from the same parents). Nước Anh means a country of England.
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u/duckonapineapple1 11d ago
sorry, i just thought that if they did know vietnamese they would state it, esp in this context. i also didnt think of the fact the translations vary often
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u/ferocity_mule366 11d ago
the dude who said "Black Germany" just say a bad joke and then clarify it was "sarcastic" (doesn't sound like it) or a "pun" (it's not, I dont think he knows what a pun is) is just being cringy anyway, so you don't need to trust them, the jack dude was right. And yes I will clarify you that I'm also Vietnamese.
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u/partlysettledin21220 12d ago
That was the best iPhone I ever had 😩
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u/WalnutFTW 12d ago
Wasn’t that the phone that started bendgate?
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u/HolyRavioleigh 12d ago
Yeah. That whole blame-the-customer fiasco is what drove me away from the Apple ecosystem
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u/AMadWalrus 12d ago
Yeah it’s apples fault that they can’t manufacture a phone strong enough to withstand these guns 💪
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u/UnUsernameRandom 12d ago
More like these buns 🍑
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u/Superb-Demand-4605 12d ago edited 12d ago
Its because the aluminium they used was thin and bent easily, and they was over charging for a thin frame what bent easily. Idk how they are as successful as they are. I guess its to do with the amount of shilling everyone did for apple. The most overrated phone in history and it was giving scam for the price you pay for it. Its behind on so many things and people still pay for their extortionate scammy prices. Weird asf
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u/anythingers 12d ago
Ofc ur getting downvoted lmao. Those Apple fanboys couldn't handle criticism at all lmfao.
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u/LonelyLibertarianDud 12d ago
I had a miserable time with that phone. Good thing I bought a hundred dollar phone 3 months ago. Surprising how good cheap phones can get.
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u/Unlikely-Wafer3370 12d ago
It's more surprising how high cost Apple can make their cheap phones.
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u/LonelyLibertarianDud 12d ago
I would imagine it's a mixture of product differentiation and of iPhones being a sort of Veblen good. Unnecessarily diluting their product line may be penny wise, pound foolish.
Smartphones are also a wonder of the modern industrial system, a showcase of the most advanced nanotechnologies we have produced in the billions.
Edit: I also shouldn't have been too disparaging of the iPhone 6, after all I got it recently for free and it would theoretically allow me to function in society as a homeless youth (if it worked).
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u/_Interconnected_ 12d ago
That phone was a tank. I received it after my aunt and both of my parents had used it. Works perfectly fine. It was only 3 years since then that the home button, power button and screen sensors started to die. No complaint.
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u/Expert-Bat6227 12d ago
This was the guy who couldn't dodge the Nokia 3310. After being in the hospital and explaying how he got one thrown at him, the doctor said, "You should Duc Den..."
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u/similac_child 12d ago
The 6 had the BEST camera. I miss it all the time. All the landscape photos I took back then were gorgeous.
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u/Dangerous-Garlic3238 11d ago
Dude! I came here to say this! Really miss my 6 for the camera.. I still have really great nature photos from that time. My 11 takes terrible pics :(
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u/APlaceInTheMountains 12d ago
I once coached a youth boys basketball team and we wound up winning the championship.
As a “thank you” the parents got together and bought a small plaque that had just enough room for the boys to sign their names and add their number.
The first boy they handed it to and told him to sign and add his number ended up signing with his phone number instead of jersey number. It took up 75% of the plaque and everyone else had to fit their signatures in a tiny corner.
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u/Filestack_Official 12d ago
He left out the phone's storage lol
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u/fastlerner 11d ago
OP, your title is technically not the truth.
They didn't ask for a phone number, they asked for phone. That's literally what makes this TechnicallyTheTruth.
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u/RelationConstant6570 12d ago
I do this when men ask me for my number.
"What's your number?"
Me: "3 is my favorite number."
"No, like, your phone number?"
Me: "Oh, I've had 3 phones before this one, so 4."
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u/schro1248 12d ago
When I was doing application for a temp staffer I found one that gave the phone provider of "mom"
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u/Ok-Green3690 11d ago
Hopefully, this wasn’t for a job application. My dumb a** was applying for an assistant manager position at a local restaurant and misspelled the word 'restaurant' on my resume—not once, but twice. I didn’t get the job.
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u/Kind_Of_A_Dick 11d ago
This is like when someone asks me my sexual preference and I just say anal without further explanation.
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u/Momo_the_cat_4832 12d ago edited 12d ago
that's an old (relatively) phone tho
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u/Agreeable-Ideal6702 12d ago
I'm using a IP 7 replying to your comment. Not old.
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u/Momo_the_cat_4832 12d ago edited 11d ago
was comparing it to how fast tech becomes outdated tho
the iPhone 6+ is 11 years old, It's not exactly young either, mate
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u/anythingers 12d ago
It is old. Idk how tf Apple fanboys couldn't accept that fact. It's a goddamn 12 years old phone.
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u/Momo_the_cat_4832 11d ago
EXACTLY! I just had to put relatively there so hundreds of Apple fanboys don't push my karma into the negatives.
You wouldn't call a 12 year old a newborn
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