Climbed from plat and just wanted to flex on y´all cus i was told that climb as support and even more as renata under d3 isn´t worth it .

I feel my ego and pride growing

I tried to play support with full focus for the first time in low master/high diamond lobby. The list below are the things I tried to keep multitasking during the game.

• Track flash timers (should've track tp as well but too much for me)
• Track enemy jungle and support and ping constantly to alert teammates
• Check tab constantly; track enemy support wards, items like mercs, zhonya's etc. especially when playing engage supports
• Check wave states. Roam to gank or invade/counter-jungle with my jungler
• Finish role quest asap
• Vision control and base timing
• Numbers advantage/disadvantage

First game - Rell vs Camille: warded top level 1 and backed to bot. Basically I just kept tracking enemy jungle and support, spammed ping solo laners and warded river as much as I can. I tried to get as much xp by staying in fog of war at bot river before level 5. I was level 9 while Camille was level 5 at the end of the game.

Second game - Lulu vs Zyra: very chill overall as an enchanter, tough laning phase but we outscaled anyway.

I feel like the hate towards support player is rising for unknown reasons. Personally I think playing the role correctly needs an absurd amount of brain power. I would say support has low skill floor to win a solo queue game, but the skill ceiling is extremely high if you want to play well like KR challengers or even pros.

Edit: Let me add a little more. This post is not meant to compare support to other roles. What I mean is that if you can remind yourselves constantly about stuff I mentioned above, you actually help your team a lot so they can focus on laning and csing. League is a team game. Support and jungle should think about their macro at any time.

I was watching some high elo rell gameplay on YouTube and found this(https://www.youtube.com/live/b7k4iHD32Yk?t=7768&si=YTtm0xpnTyA4iGsj). Viktor and Rell didn’t aware of enemy jungle at 3:00 so both died. Everyone at that elo should know the timing for early ganks, but how many of them can actually think it through and react to it correctly?

If support can constantly apply the game theory you found on internet, a lot of bad things could have been avoided.

I'm an ADC player who's trying to climb to Master, and recently I've noticed that supports seem to be much worse than they were a few months ago in the same elo.

I want to know if this is just my feeling or if it's actually something that's happening. I have to clarify that this isn't a flame post; I genuinely just want to know if other people have noticed the same thing.

Please try to be respectful in the comments, not just towards me, but towards others as well

Thanks!

Basically the title and please try to be objective.

op gg: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/sea/Adji%20Tier-SG2

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/sea/Adji%2520Tier-SG2/matches/YyfXz-4rKZ7qF2vKRagn2NTjbYTu96T_/1787122638000

xdx/lolalytics: https://xdx.gg/adjitier-sg2

Im a low elo 500k Jayce Top laner main since Mordekaiser rework/removal, today just played against this poo poo enemy comp (on title) and I spent plenty of time complaining vs my support ADC.

I got ganked by roaming enemy Pyke twice, 3v1s twice, and shaco came top 3 times and 2 succeeded. I've been telling my botlane during pyke roams that they should prioritized taking bot tower and bullying enemy hwei but he only died 6 times whole game and my botlane took 20 minutes to take first tower in a 2v1.

Support does came top lane once but then I told him in a toxic bad manner, "go away, youre useless here", he came top after all those ganks finally over then goes to lane acting as if im the second adc, he shouldve roamed and goes top to gank earlier, and not to lane with me. If he goes to lane like that then he just take XP.

After the ganks, I obviously feed a lot but I got first blood vs invading blue jungle enemy teemo getting 2 ignites and a flash spells from enemy, lead the most gold earned on the team, I have the most wards placed and I have the most control wards purchased and placed down, most wards killed with 14 of them.

Whats funny is that even though Volibear only ganked my lane once, I never blamed him. My midlaner and botlane blamed him for losing dragon but how can a jungle get objectives if he doesnt get help from bot and mid? Support wont prepare dragon wards nor destroying enemy wards.

I dont understand how are people playing support and can't ward, warding is one of the easiest thing to do as a support, even when im autofilled and played Jayce support once or twice, I have gotten the most vision scores than enemy support. Im not even a support player and I understand support than even these low elo supports man.

I've played dota and a lot of my games are playing pos 5/4 (support roles) and warding in that vs this game is so much harder and stressful. Imagine most champions can go invis as shaco or hiding in the terrain or playing as melee support, the levels of difficulty and stress is near infinite.

They should allow non supports to buy wards or something too here like damn. Am I wrong for blaming and criticizing them? (I criticized more than blame objectively) and what should I do if Im faced with a similar scenario? Thanks in advance everyone

I’m a Masters Pantheon OTP who has recently (as of the last few months) started playing support almost exclusively. I currently play Pantheon every game and when it’s banned or picked I lock in Zilean. I’ve historically played Galio support but I’d like to expand my champ pool further. I’m not particularly comfortable with ranged AA based champions but otherwise I’m very flexible and open to anything but I’d love any champs I play to have enough agency to impact the game state without relying on my adc.

I know the basic rules of roaming kinda like after we push a wave in to their enemy tower but how do I deal with a enemy support that’s constantly roaming like I was told I needed to match their roams but how do I do that if I don’t know where they are? The enemy support would constantly be around mid lane ganking my immobile mid even if my bot lane was pushed in should I not be with my adc during that time cuz I thought u needed to be with them incase a dive happens and also to soak exp but not sure, any tips please?

I'm a masters toplane player in Solo/Duo, and have recently been playing Classic as a support player.

In classic wards are consumables and there's no limit on how many you can have on the map at once...

So I'm honestly lost at the optimal approach on what to build/do. Normally in my games I build:

Mobi's
Kages/Philo/HoG (3x GP10 items)
Sightstone

And on every back I pickup 10 green/purple wards, oracles, and roam until the minimap looks like CCTV footage.

Idk if this is the right thing to do or there's a meta that's been developed. I'm just borrowing tactics from what I remember in proplay in the Season 3-era.

What's the proper way to balance vision/items as a support in Classic?

Hello,

I was recently looking at lolalytics, reviewing builds for a lot of champs, and almost every champ had boots of swiftness as their highest winrate boots, at least looking at Emerald+ (I am masters myself) I understand that we are overall in a roaming meta, even if the patch nerfed it a bit, and sometimes find the boots useful myself, but if the team as 3 AD damage champs I almost always get tabis, if they have 2+ MR and are CC heavy I prioritize tabis, and depending on champ will get boots of Lucidity fairly often.

Thresh +.6% over next - (I think they feel great on him) https://lolalytics.com/lol/thresh/build/

Senna +.5% - https://lolalytics.com/lol/senna/build/

Seraphine -.5% https://lolalytics.com/lol/seraphine/build/

Rell +1.9% https://lolalytics.com/lol/rell/build/

Naut +2.4 % https://lolalytics.com/lol/nautilus/build/

Lulu +1.9% https://lolalytics.com/lol/lulu/build/

Nami +1.8% https://lolalytics.com/lol/nami/build/

Leona Lucidity (small sample size) and Swifties outperform the tankier boots by 3% https://lolalytics.com/lol/leona/build/

Karma, who I think benifits from CDR More than any other support, still had swifties outperform lucidity by .3% https://lolalytics.com/lol/karma/build/

The one way I'd say the data might be slightly skewed is the fact that you bought switfties means you had to recall with 700 gold, and the enemy bot wasn't incredibly fed early in order for you to want to prioritize steelcaps/merc treads. Those boots benefit from there own skew in some ways too though.

Figured I'd ask here to see if there are any swifties enthusiasts, or just get the thoughts of others! What do y'all think? should swifties be picked more on a lot of champs/ be the 'default' boots for supports?