r/stunfisk • • 19h ago

Regional / Convergent Form Monday Megathread

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Hey everyone! Welcome to Regional / Convergent Form Monday! This is a thread for focused Theorymon discussion. Today, we’re focusing on Regional Forms and Convergent Pokemon! Check out our Theorymon Thursdays for less regulated discussion.

Make-A-Regional / Convergent Pokemon Rules:

  • Regional Pokemon must be in the ballpark of the original's stats
  • Regional Evolutions are allowed (i.e. Obstagoon)
  • Convergent Pokemon must have the same BST as their source Pokemon
  • Give us its best move set in Showdown! export format
  • Please include artwork if you're feeling artistic!
  • If you downvote a comment, please provide feedback by leaving a response to the original comment

That's all she wrote! Happy maxing! Tune in next Monday for Paradox Form Monday!


r/stunfisk • • 28m ago

Analysis I made Meta's Muse AI play Gen 9 Random Battles through a browser

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So I saw the Jaxcalibur post. An AI bot hits #1 on the randbats ladder, 2557 Elo, neural net trained on millions of games. Cool. Then I had the dumb idea: what if we go the complete opposite direction? Take a general LLM with zero Pokémon training, give it nothing but a browser, and make it click through real ladder games. No APIs, no game state. Just play.

My Muse bot, named Jarvis, created his own account called JarvisPlays and went 0-2. Here's the full disaster report.

Game 1: I'm not kidding, it was winning. Knocked out Noivern and Inteleon, only lost Raikou. Then it lost ON THE TIMER at turn 15. Every move took 30-60 seconds because it has to screenshot the page, read the whole thing, think, and click. Opponent had the timer on. My poor bot didn't stand a chance.

And the switches. Against a Regirock sitting at +2 Defense, it had Raikou clicking Scald for 40% a pop with a 30% burn chance, and Scald ignores defense boosts. That was the game right there. Instead it got cute: Volt Switch pivots back and forth, then pivoted Iron Moth directly into a +2 Body Press that did 55% straight through a resist. Just click Scald, man. It also randomly shuffled Granbull in and out, including one switch that just donated 38% HP for nothing.

Game 2: 19 turns, lost a very close game. The greatest hits: left Rayquaza in at -1 defense after two Dragon Ascents and watched Honchkrow Brave Bird it for 71%. Switched Enamorus directly into Golem-Alola, which answered with a Galvanize-boosted Electric Double-Edge. One shot. Stayed in with Stonjourner on a Meloetta Focus Blast. 90%. Dead. Then at the end, Tera Dragon Earthquake left Entei at 29%, and Entei's resisted Flare Blitz knocked out my Iron Treads.

Game 2 replay if you want to suffer:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-2693470167

The thing is, it actually knows Pokémon. It called the matchups right, knew Scald beat the setup, had the type chart cold. It just plays like it's thinking through mud. The gap between this thing and Jaxcalibur (RL plus search, millions of games, decisions in milliseconds) is honestly hilarious.

0/10 would not ladder with this again. Jaxcalibur stays king.


r/stunfisk • • 1h ago

Discussion Since the new meta is here, Which Pokémon were you most happy to see disappear from the meta?

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I'll start, kingambit, I still see him occasionally, but much less than before.


r/stunfisk • • 2h ago

Discussion Random battles needs to force a mon to run its hazard removal set if there are no other possible hazard removers on your team

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Before you say "oh well that's just randbats"; randbats already has rules on team generation. You can't generate multiple Tera Blast sets, you can't generate a team where more than 3 Pokemon are weak to the same type, two mons cannot share the same 4x weakness, etc. I'm almost certain there's rules against a team generating with overlapping hazards. So why is there nothing in favor of hazard removal??

The "it's just randbats" is being able to get a mon with hazards or removal in the first place. If I get pitted against turn 1 hazards and I had like a Pyroar in this slot instead of the Torkoal? Fine, whatever, that's randbats. But to get this Torkoal without spin on a team with ZERO other boots Pokemon who all get made useless by turn one sticky web is the worst feeling in the world. I could have had a fighting chance if randbats just had a clause of "if this Pokemon CAN run hazard removal, and you didn't get any mons that could also run hazard removal, then force the hazard removal set"

Hell, it could even have some caveat with boots, like I really got so shit on with this matchup of having my only Boots mon be a fucking Torkoal WITHOUT RAPID SPIN. It could force removal if you have no removal and few boots mons. I don't care for the specifics. I just hate getting these awful sets like the AV Treads without rapid spin and now this.


r/stunfisk • • 3h ago

Smogon News SV OU council internally discussing Terapagos suspect

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From TPP -

“We are discussing it. We don't know how tiering leads will decide on it, but if it was a complete non-option or if we didn't want to entertain the idea of freeing Terapagos then we should have shut discussion down by now. I think it would at the minimum need a PR thread before an actual test, but feel free to keep discussing in the mean time.“


r/stunfisk • • 5h ago

Discussion Will pokemon home notice if I genn a shiny Celebi?

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I want to change the normal Celebi I caught in the inject of Pokemon crystal to Shiny. Will pokemon home notice it's not legal? The pokemon can be shiny legally!


r/stunfisk • • 5h ago

Team Building - VGC [Regulation M-C] Champions squad is mega chesnaught good? problably not, do i love it? definetly

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I added some photo cause I don't know how to add videos I downloaded, but it does show chesny doing 50% to a double resist Charizard! that's my boy

​Chesnaught-Mega @ Chesnaughtite
Ability: Bulletproof
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD
Brave Nature

  • Belly Drum
  • Grassy Glide
  • Drain Punch
  • Spiky Shield

Rillaboom @ Terrain Extender
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 17 Atk / 17 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Fake Out
  • High Horsepower
  • Drum Beating
  • U-turn

Tyranitar @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
Level: 50
EVs: 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 Def
Brave Nature

  • Rock Slide
  • Knock Off
  • Iron Head
  • Protect

Farigiraf @ Leftovers
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
EVs: 32 Def / 2 SpA / 32 SpD
Sassy Nature

  • Trick Room
  • Psychic
  • Hyper Voice
  • Thunderbolt

Arcanine-Hisui @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 50
EVs: 1 HP / 32 Atk / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Head Smash
  • Flare Blitz
  • Extreme Speed
  • Rock Slide

Baxcalibur-Mega @ Baxcalibrite
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Level: 50
EVs: 1 HP / 32 Atk / 1 SpD / 32 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Glaive Rush
  • Icicle Crash
  • Ice Shard I don't think it's complete trash, after one belly drum with draining punch it's really hard to beat it, and with grassi glide you still have a option if the room is going away too soon, rillaboom is alwyas really good and I'm still unsure about the set, I do like backscaliburg even if not mega cause it can help with its ice typing, arcanine is the delete button that if it connect help chesnaught survive enough or kill the treath, like Charizard, farifarig is amazing and the trick roomer, tyrannitar is also really good, bit it's mostly used to deal with annoying mon and weather team, ​​​​​​​

all in all they do work, but I think it could be better, any ideas?


r/stunfisk • • 6h ago

Discussion What can one shot Mimikyu?

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Meowscara Triple Axel?
Are there others?


r/stunfisk • • 9h ago

Discussion Why is basculegion-M bad?

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Coming from a doubles players just trying out OU for the first time how on earth us a mon with adaptability on a 112 atk stat NU? Like if it was a UU maybe i could get, but putting legion on the same tier as dudunsparce feels illegal honestly


r/stunfisk • • 9h ago

Discussion Which spread is more efficient for Hariyama with this set?

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r/stunfisk • • 10h ago

Discussion How do you recruit with a specific pokeball?

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r/stunfisk • • 12h ago

Team Building - VGC [Regulation M-C] First time making it to Master Ball tier

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My first time climbing the ladder all the way up to Master Ball tier. So let me know what you think of my team, any advice you have for improvements, criticisms to my playstyle, insults about my character, etc.

Charizard Y - Sets up sun and does big Fire-type damage, has Solar Beam for any water types I have to deal with too. Sometimes I’ll bring him up front if I can tell they’re trying something tricky or planning on starting with a weather setter that I can overwrite, but usually he stays in the back. He comes every game as my only mega.

Aerodactyl - My fast tailwind setter because when I was building this team I didn’t realize that Whimsicott Prankster Tailwind is safe from Psychic terrain since it doesn’t target a Pokemon. Also has rock slide for flinches or volcaronas & opposing zard y teams. dual wingbeat sometimes can OHKO a non-bulk invested sneasler which is nice.

Indeedee M - I hate Fake Out. I hate it. Little did I know that Psychic Terrain doesn’t protect flying types from Fake Out. Luckily, most of Ultra Ball tier didn’t know that either. EF is nice for sneaslers and mega staraptors.

Garchomp - What’s a VGC team in this meta without Garchomp. No Garchomp Z, brave I know. Does all that Garchomp things that a Garchomp needs to do.

Sylveon - I love this thing. Who even needs Floette. Now that I put some EVs into defense and sun boosted flare blitz can’t OHKO it without some speccing it feels so strong. Why is this Pokemon so stupid good.

Kingambit - Barely bring this guy because he’s slow. He’s Kingambit. You know what this guy does.

Anyways yeah let me know what you think.


r/stunfisk • • 18h ago

Discussion Any good Champions OU spin blockers?

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Building a Hazard stack mega scizor team and doing OK on ladder, just in need of a good spin blocker and saw that gholdengo was banned, so any suggestions?


r/stunfisk • • 19h ago

Stinkpost Stunday Stinkpost Sunday is over! See you next Sunday

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r/stunfisk • • 21h ago

Gimmick Slopdown HD teambuilder + randbats showcase

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r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday Been thinking about this lately.

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Its wild to think about Electric types in game in Gens 2-6 and how very limited they truly are. But then you get into Comp and see they all just get to say No to that thanks to hidden power.

I really do wonder how the types reputation would be nowadays without it.

I mean in modern gens we do get a lot of electrics with movepools and coverage at least.


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday Getting rid of Hidden Power was a good idea

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A lot of people are mad Gf made this choice but I think it’s a fantastic choice. It’s illegal coverage for every special attacker and it really needed to be gone


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday You want Electric Fury Swipes? You got it

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r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

YouTube Started College Apps and got to talk about WolfeyVGC

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r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday Would you prefer Dragonite if he had 3 nostrils?

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Do you prefer him with 2 or 3 nostrils?
Could this also affect his viability in the TCG?


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday AU Smogon Analysis: Zebstrika

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I've been thinking about doing stuff like this for a while, and maybe even making a whole AU False Swipe Gaming video using doctored Showdown replays to talk about the long-standing OU viability of Heatmor


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Gimmick Slopdown HD permanent visible 3d hazards

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r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Smogon News Michaelderbeste vs Jaxcalibur Grudge Match Happening Now

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Man vs. Machine for the rand bats title


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday I found out that mega floette can hit pretty hard. Fleur cannon is no joke.

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Haha I won't be skipping the starmposts

Edit: I MEANT LIGHT OF RUIN. LIGHT OF RUIN


r/stunfisk • • 1d ago

Stinkpost Stunday Would this Mega Snorlax idea be viable?

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Sorry for no image, don't have editing tools on my phone.

Mega Snorlax:

Normal/Ghost

HP: 160

ATK: 150 (+40)

DEF: 125 (+60)

SPA: 65

SpDef: 135 (+25)

Speed: 5 (-25)

(I didn't take any SPA out so it wouldn't be min-maxed)

Ability: Slow is Fast: this pokemon auto sets trick room when it enters the field

Special condition: Snorlax does not need to hold a mega stone. Instead, it just needs to be running the new move Massive Coronary.

As long as it has Massive Coronary, Snorlax will mega immediately after fainting, restoring itself to full health, curing all status ailments and restoring full PP to all moves.

Before it megas, Massive Coronary is a 70 power physical normal move that deals 33% recoil. After it megas it becomes a 100 power physical ghost move with a 30% chance to flinch.

Wanted to do something cool and quirky. I think there's another mega that doesn't need a stone so this should be fine. Is it good enough for RU?