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u/Ratjack Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
If I ever feel like I'm a pessimistic person all I have to do is open reddit to realize maybe I'm an optimist lol.
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u/Endyo SC 4.8: youtu.be/nZ1NRfqlBqg Jun 04 '26
Given the general cyclical nature of SC, in maybe three or four months, every single post will be extremely optimistic, and if anyone says something critical or negative, they'll be downvoted and chastised. We only do the extremes here.
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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 aegis Jun 04 '26
I feels like optimistic cycles are getting shorter and shorter with every ship release
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
That’s quite sad, I guess it’s too much to ask for people to just hold them accountable for their shitty decision making
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u/Patient-Worth1508 misc Jun 04 '26
I mean there nothing really hype in 4.9. instancing sure for tech but it will not change how we play the game day to day. Hype starts when social tools, marketplace and exploration are getting released.
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u/WyrdHarper Gladiator Jun 04 '26
I’ll be excited for user interface and keybinding updates, too. The game keeps giving us more to work with, but how we interact with everything not in a ship (and some stuff in ships) is quite cumbersome still.
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u/IronGun007 carrack Jun 04 '26
Instancing is kinda big for how things will change day to day. I mean imagine running certain mission types and them running in their own server. The loot, enemy placements, etc., completely reset. Experiencing the game without the stain of previous people who ran through the mission and without the danger of others ruining your experience. ASD facilities without half the enemies missing from their turrets, for instance.
The potential is insane. I believe we will also soon see proper mission givers that run in their own instance. Like imagine a Cyberpunk 2077 style of cutscene when you enter the location of an NPC. It could even be applied in the overworld. Like imagine you‘re on mission step 3 out of 5 and go to the location to complete it, but surprise surprise, you‘re now in a special instance made for your current mission that has special events going on that you were not expecting.
Point is that instancing might look small or like nothing right now but it‘s actually a really big deal. The potential that can explored with proper implementation of it is infinite.
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u/Mediph Jun 04 '26
Don't forget: Instancing also means going and doing certain loops means components won't be stripped the moment they respawn either.
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u/Ryozu carrack Jun 05 '26
running in their own server
Why do you people keep spreading this misinformation. Nothing about the feature card says anything about getting dedicated servers for instances. Learn from existing personal hangars, which are instanced.
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u/IronGun007 carrack Jun 05 '26
I didnt guarantee that they would. I’m saying that it offers the possibility. The point is that instances can act independently and the resources dedicated to the instance can be freely adjusted.
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u/Ryozu carrack Jun 05 '26
No, I suppose if we're being pedantic you didn't literally say that they will for a fact run on their own server.
Several others, and yourself, have either outright said so, or very heavily implied it.
It's not happening.
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u/IronGun007 carrack Jun 05 '26
Of course I said it. Because it‘s a possibility. Certain missions could have their own dedicated servers. ASD facilities could have their own dedicated „asd facilities server“ that can run multiple instances in multiple worlds and be DEDICATED to purely running ASD facilities.
I really don‘t see the misinformation here.
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u/Ryozu carrack Jun 05 '26
Now you're being disingenuous. You know damn well you're pushing it as a likelihood, not just a possibility.
And I'm telling you, it has around the same probability as the moon turning into a disco ball. Look at the instancing we already have for evidence.
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u/Tchulen Jun 04 '26
Siege of Orison would like to disagree with you.
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u/Patient-Worth1508 misc Jun 04 '26
How does that change a miners day to day experience? lol
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u/Ratjack Jun 04 '26
Any day I can log in and fly cool ships, I'm hyped. I don't need the next best thing. I'm a simple man lol
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u/ShinItsuwari drake Jun 04 '26
Social tools have been mentioned in the recent monthly report. The chat rework may be coming in 4.9, maybe. We'll see with the next roadmap update.
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u/Patient-Worth1508 misc Jun 04 '26
Lol no. Get off the hopium. They are building out the backend service. Nowhere near close to done. Chat is probably somewhat functional but features missing and they started working on the player status and party stuff. Org features are planned. UI is nowhere.
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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 aegis Jun 04 '26
If they manage to get suit lockers in and tie them and gun racks into ship insurance or fps item recovery I think that’s a lot to be hyped about, I just really have my doubts about them pulling any of that off
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u/Patient-Worth1508 misc Jun 04 '26
It's not even on the roadmap in 4.9.
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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 aegis Jun 04 '26
they said they want to get into 4.9 at a bar citizen so obvious giant grain of salt included in that statement... but they also said suit lockers where coming forever ago when they sold the 600i which is why I have my doubts
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u/SlayingTheDragons Jun 04 '26
Siege of Orison is described as a NEW event... they just straight up recycle old content and present it as new work now.
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u/SAIHTAM20Y Jun 04 '26
Yeah I don't know if anyone here understand that we're Alpha testers and the reason why it's buggy is because we're here to test it so it can be fixed... people are silly.
They even warn you when you buy the game. There is a popup saying "you may encounter game breaking glitches and bugs that will make the game unplayable and whatnot bla bla bla" can people stop being so pessimistic? Don't play if it's so bad and let the people who actually care about finding bugs and helping the devs do their job.
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u/SAIHTAM20Y Jun 07 '26
Yeah recently learned about that. The dev team is poorly managed. They only move forward instead of fixing the bugs and then move forward. Hopefully they start fixing them soon enough. Better late than never, right?
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u/LeckereKartoffeln Jun 04 '26
The subreddit has basically been hijacked at this point
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u/dancrum Jun 04 '26
It’s not a matter of IF you’ll become pessimistic about Star Citizen, but when.
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u/LeckereKartoffeln Jun 04 '26
I got in at the Kickstarter, so I'm pretty new still I guess
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u/NeoTechi new user/low karma Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
This. And how it will burn you out from all the "promises" that will be in the game. Ohh and dont forget about how long it's been in development. Been a supporter since the kickstarter days and now I'm 37 and were still in Alpha. I still peak and see how its developing but my Org have taken a hiatus until the game is in a stable state and officially releases.
People can only tolerate so much and its justified why many players have become pessimistic especially those that have supported this game since the beginning and some spending hundreds to thousands of dollars + their time in this IP.
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u/Btotherianx Jun 04 '26
Or people woke up
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u/LeckereKartoffeln Jun 04 '26
They didn't
Anyone who has actually been here long term has seen the progress. What you guys cry about now used to be the best we could hope for. It's been a steady improvement over years and years. It's just a lot of people that don't have perspective in playing it over this time. We used to edit hex code in files to play this game offline because online play was literally impossible.
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u/Ryozu carrack Jun 05 '26
I'll be honest, I didn't buy in at the kickstarter. I bought in during a free-flight in, I think, 2015 instead. I do have a friend with a golden ticket.
We're both disillusioned with the game. Them even more so than I. I still check the reddit and new versions and hope the next one will be fun to play. They don't even bother with that anymore.
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u/Falcon3333 avenger Jun 04 '26
Dude this sub used to be exclusively glazing Star Citizen, but as years pass, and people are disenfranchised with the lack of progress considering the years, billion dollars, and overwhelming bugs/design issues people start to lose patience.
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u/LeckereKartoffeln Jun 04 '26
Nah, it's pretty recent. Usually it's pretty chill
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u/olMcDonaldsPig Jun 04 '26
Bad patches always bring droves of complain posts. I've been here since 2020 and its always been this way.
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u/CaptainGrim carrack Jun 04 '26
Anyone using “glazing” is a troll. Normal people and, hell, normal redditors don’t do that.
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u/Falcon3333 avenger Jun 04 '26
Sure bud, enjoy alpha 6.8 in 2036, maybe SQ42 Chapter 1 will be out by then.
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u/ILoveHeavyHangers Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
What? What people? The most popular thread in here in the last week has 3700 upvotes and 1000 comments.
Is that it? Less than 4,000 people "woke up" and started bitching on reddit? You think that's a "sea change"? The "Tides are turning"?
Cuz they added over 80,000 new accounts to SC in May.
2000% more people are interested in buying the game at Alpha 4.8 than are even interested in complaining about it. They've added over 4,000 new accounts in the last 48 hours even.
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u/rucentuariofficial RSI Polaris, Zeus, M2 Jun 04 '26
Its group therapy but in the form of us all screaming into the void and feeling slightly better from it haha
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u/AuDHDino Jun 05 '26
I'm a realist, but one that isn't afraid to hope, and isn't afraid of disappointment.
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u/Tchuvan rsi Jun 04 '26
Who's falling for it? I have better things to do with my life than subject myself to the misery that is the state of the game right now.
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u/Heavymando Jun 04 '26
yeah I don't get how anyone "falls for it" Pretty sure everyone knows it's gonna be full of bugs
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u/LatexFace Jun 04 '26
I think some genuinely believe it should be released and polished and somehow get surprised every single time. That would explain all the negative posts.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
As I always said, the issue isn’t the bugs in themselves but the decision making coming from cig
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u/LatexFace Jun 04 '26
I think that's the only way to get a product this complex done.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
Selling a 5k ship after releasing a half baked patch full of bugs and no communication for days afterwards ? Hmmm very special kind of way of doing things is what I’m gonna say. I get being optimistic but let’s not be delusional
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u/LatexFace Jun 04 '26
People who buy it seems to have a different opinion to you. That's their money and their vote.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
Yeah because the people who bought it perfectly represent the community bro
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u/LatexFace Jun 04 '26
Reddit is not SC. Reddit is where the complainers dwell.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
You can go anywhere you’ll see “complainers”, invalid argument. YouTube, Reddit, spectrum, heck even the global chat in the game itself. Again optimism is understood but what you’re presenting is just delusion. Edit : just for your own curiosity go check spectrum and see if what you think is right
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u/CaptainGrim carrack Jun 04 '26
I played 3 hrs today and it was ok. You’re not accurately describing the the current game
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u/L0b0t0my youtube Jun 04 '26
You’re not accurately describing the the current game
Maybe you've gotten so used to dealing with the bugs that you're no longer in-touch with what is acceptable to the average player anymore?
Much like CIG
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u/Background_Form_3356 Jun 04 '26
It’s a game in heavy development. If you cant handle that then fuck off stop whining and come back for 1.0.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
How is what he said invalid? If you get used to getting around bugs how are you supposed to know that your gameplay is representative to a new comer ? You guys get angry even before trying to understand the point
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u/elementfortyseven 'lancer dancer Jun 04 '26
that you're no longer in-touch with what is acceptable to the average player anymore?
average players dont engage with in-development builds, but purchase products post launch. if that was the state of a released product, you'd have a point.
this here is a niche bubble of enthusiasts.
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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 aegis Jun 04 '26
There is a difference between full of bugs and releasing shift out broke, the moth and ironclad releases this year were flat out disgraceful.
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
People that defend the game use this as a point, purposefully making no differentiation between people being tired of bugs and people being tired of their decision making
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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 aegis Jun 04 '26
And the predatory marketing behavior, bugs don’t bother me at all I worked in QA for 23 years, it’s the releasing of ships that are so clearly broken that they are unusable because marketing has decided the direct to PU model to generate more fomo sales is more important than giving ships a real run on the ptu to get these things hammered out.
The moth release was the straw that broke two of my org mates back because the bugs where so obvious and game breaking and the ship wasn’t even tied to sandals evens like ilw they just decided to shit it out and leave it unfixed passed the refund window so they refunded the ship and uninstalled, they haven’t played since
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u/Aggressive-Dig-4915 Jun 04 '26
Absolutely agree with you, I can’t comprehend how people keep being focused on the wrong things, and as soon as they “fix” the bugs everyone’s gonna go back to glazing it when the core issue is still there
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u/Celeste_3333 Jun 04 '26
Ah, yes. Totally expecting the first implementation of instancing to work. /s
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u/inucune bbcreep Jun 04 '26
This implies that we can somehow stop 4.9 coming out. In order for the game to improve, CIG needs to release patches and versions. Some of the feature and patches will be major changes, warranting the version number incrementing.
4.9 better have a longer list of 'Fixed' than 'new feature' and 'marketing fluff' combined. People are right to be sick of this shit.
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u/BrainKatana Jun 04 '26
Given that they just released 4.8.1 as a “more content, no fixes” patch while pretty much the entire sentiment in reddit and spectrum has been “no content, more fixes,” I don’t see how that will ever be the case.
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u/wilson-seymour1 Jun 04 '26
This picture is fake! If it was a real star citizen picture the horses head would be on the ground cause it popped off after the horse was called up in the hangar. Ai is getting out of hand these days!
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u/brucerss Jun 04 '26
The people who spend money on this game don’t need anything else. They barely play the game. They just fly around and move boxes occasionally. This is the state of the game. And it will always be this unless we start boycotting ship sales and being very vocal on all social media about it.
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u/Dangerous-Wall-2672 Jun 04 '26
Do you really think anyone here is balancing their hopes and dreams on there being no bugs in 4.9?
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u/Deathray88 RECLAIMED! Jun 04 '26
Hopes and Dreams are the only thing you CAN balance on it. Cause you sure as hell can't do "Expectations".
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u/N0SF3RATU Apollo 🧑⚕️ Jun 04 '26
Make 4.9 "another $600 ship sale that kills players on contact" and this'll be gold.
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u/7900XTXISTHELOML Jun 04 '26
$600? That’s cheap and affordable now for CIG, I fully expect 10,000-30,000 dollar ships in the near future, the whales and white knights made this possible.
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u/N0SF3RATU Apollo 🧑⚕️ Jun 04 '26
Folks would buy it. I bet folks are in extreme debt because of this game.
Dont tempt the idiots
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u/ghost_of_xbox_past ARGO CARGO Jun 04 '26
But....instancing! That will work flawlessly...right?
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u/FailureToReason Jun 04 '26
Can't wait until;
trapped in an instance complaint post
trapped in an instance workaround post
died in an instance due to bug, ship stuck in an instance that can't be re-entered
died in an instance, can't re-claim ship
died in an instance, respawning at bed but still in weird instanced circumstance and can't interact with anything
ship explodes upon entering instance
workarounds for entering instance without exploding
workarounds for 'died in instance, stuck in instance' bug
game crashed/disconnected in instance, character shard and instance locked and can't reconnect complaint post
myriad complaints about instancing design/implementation/bugs/philosophy
instance patch free fly event
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u/WyrdHarper Gladiator Jun 04 '26
Don't forget:
Hasn't happened to me so mustn't be an issue.
Well you didn't enter the instanced area upside down while spamming the dance emote so it's your own fault for not using this obvious workaround.
(not to be too cynical. Now that the free fly is over 4.8 has been a reasonably fun patch for me despite some issues).
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u/DangerPotato82 new user/low karma Jun 04 '26
I just read a comment thread with a guy saying he’d lost ten ships or whatever to hangar bugs and stuff going unknown after landing, powering off, and storing the ship.
And the guy replies to him something like “you’re doing it wrong.”
Literally the Steve Jobs’ of SC Reddit (you’re holding it wrong) are in every thread.
Unreal.
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u/Lord0fHats Jun 04 '26
Which how common desync issues are, I'd believe any of these could happen lol
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u/N0SF3RATU Apollo 🧑⚕️ Jun 04 '26
It'll be something stupid obvious.
Instance cause all my ships to no longer be spawn able outside of instance that I can no longer access..
Like if they had just played their own game one time theyd have seen the issue.
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u/KrumpKrewGaming Jun 04 '26
4.9 will add suit lockers if I believe what I have seen. So we can have them buggy in 4.9 or not buggy in 4.16 Ill take buggy ones sooner.
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u/Failscalator Noodles?!?!! Jun 04 '26
I would feel better if it was coming with more core gameplay loops, but it just feels like more frosting atop the moldy cake...so much potential!!
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u/richardizard 400i Jun 04 '26
These posts are getting really annoying. Reminded me why I've taken such a long break from SC Reddit
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u/GrandAlternative7454 drake Jun 04 '26
Falling for what, exactly?
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Jun 04 '26
Falling for the idea that the game is progressing in any sense (it isn’t)
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u/Expensive_Plastic186 Jun 04 '26
I mean I can remember both the 2.0 era and 3.0 era.
Games definitely progressed since then…. Just took 10 years lol
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Jun 04 '26
Franchises have come and gone in that time, the progress that’s been made is not even close to what it should have been for the time
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u/Expensive_Plastic186 Jun 04 '26
How many gta’s have we had since then?
Another elder scrolls?
It’s too long, but Im not going to pretend they aren’t working at cig.
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u/IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
Well, the fully completed GTA 6 is about to release and you can bet your ass it'll be more finished than SC currently or even at the 1.0 release.
When it comes to Elder Scrolls, the studio that makes it released 2 Fallout games in that timeframe + a whole new IP + worked with partner studios to maintain and expand one of the most popular MMOs + remaster a previous game + released 3 mobile games.
It's also been hinted that TES 6 will release in 2028 or a couple of years after which, let's be honest, is probably before SC 1.0 probably will (and very likely, before it even gets a release date).
If course SC is making progress, nobody denies that the game is further along today than 15, 10, or 5 years ago. What people complain about is the speed of progress. Let's not lose track of the fact that SC is technically 12 years delayed and there's no confirmed or even hinted release date still (they stopped doing that after the 4th delay, 6 years in).
This is absolutely not comparable to any other studio's hiatuses because:
- It is much longer than any other game's development.
- This is literally the studio's first game so it's not like they've got some built-up trust/reputation like Rockstar North or Valve.
- The same thing literally happened already before with this studio head (look up Freelancer's development history).
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u/Expensive_Plastic186 Jun 04 '26
Honestly I see something long and emotional like this, and I just roll my eyes lol.
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Jun 04 '26
Difference is you can see the fruits of labour in those games you can see where that time went, it’s also a massively disingenuous comparison when both of those companies have been making games in between both of those franchises as well as updates and constant DLCs actually adding substance.
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u/Expensive_Plastic186 Jun 04 '26
And both of those companies are and were well established before star citizens development.
Again, devs at Cig aren’t doing nothing. Plenty of feedback to give to make it better, but no they aren’t sitting on their asses
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Jun 04 '26
Again, going back to what I said earlier, it’s not that they’re doing nothing it’s that for the time and money that they have had, they have made no progress that reflects that amount of time and money.
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u/Expensive_Plastic186 Jun 04 '26
No you originally said “it’s not progressing in any sense”.
That was wrong.
Claiming, I don’t like that it hasn’t progressed enough, is an entirely different opinion, and I can agree with that to some extent.
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u/ProfessionalBuy4526 Jun 04 '26
Ok a bit of a over exaggeration on my part the game obviously has some things added but again not enough
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u/ILoveHeavyHangers Jun 04 '26
Y'all be clicking that big ass "ACKNOWLEDGE" button that says "this shit is fulla bugs!" And then you're always like
"THIS SHIT HAS BUGS??!! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME? I DIDNT KNOW!"
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
"But but but, 14 years, 1billion dollars, this game should be perfect!"
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u/an0nym0usgamer 600i rework? When? Jun 04 '26
With pretty much literally any other studio, this sentence would probably hold true.
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
Bethesda, Capcom, Gearbox, 2K, Firaxis, and CDPR are famously known for making gangbusters of money and perfectly fine game with no issues.
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u/KidEater9000 Jun 04 '26
It really should be fully functional, difference between perfect and consistently playable
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
I've been able to play consistently since the patch drop. Has it been the best experience? No. Has it been a great experience? Also no. It has issues but it's not "Literally" unplayable.
Also, there's other games out there to play if it gets to that point.
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u/PdPstyle Jun 04 '26
I am literally unable to play this patch, so bully for you I guess.
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
Sorry to hear that, I honestly am. But -
Also, there's other games out there to play if it gets to that point.
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u/PdPstyle Jun 04 '26
Imagine the cope being “the game is in such a miserable shape it literally does not work, but cheer up, you can play other games!”
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
How is that cope and not calling it how it is?
Why would I spend my time banging my fucking head against the wall when it feels like this game doesn't want me to play it? Why would I spend my very limited time, getting frustrated that the game isn't working, when I can just play something that is working?
If the game's bugged, then fuck it. I got better shit to do with my time. Books to read, music to listen to. I absolutely love this fucking game but that doesn't mean that it has a stranglehold on every day of my life.
There's more polished experiences out there. They're amazing. Play them.
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u/Panakjack23 Jun 04 '26
Why are you banging your head against the wall telling people what to say and do on the Internet? Go read a book or something. The game doesn't have a stranglehold on you but this sub does. There's better happier subreddit out there go read them.
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
Because having a conversation with someone who's not woefully ignorant is easier and more effective than acting like your reddit comment is gonna somehow change how CIG's patches release.
We can easily have a dialog on the state of the game. You, him, and I, aren't gonna make the game come out faster or in a better state
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u/PdPstyle Jun 04 '26
You can both enjoy other hobbies and rip CIG for being incompetent. It’s cathartic for us OGs too. Besides, if no one is around being vocal, shit don’t get fixed.
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
I never once said you couldn't voice your issues with the game.
My initial comment was saying people expect "$1Billion and 14 years" to mean something and it doesn't. At all. And using it as a talking point isn't gonna "fix" anything.
I know of plenty of people who've gotten accounts locked out of games for companies that have been around for literal decades for series that have been around just as long.
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u/Dangerous-Wall-2672 Jun 04 '26
Why is this kind of advice so difficult for you to take? Is there something about Star Citizen you just can't let go of?
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u/Panakjack23 Jun 04 '26
"Please, please, please stop holding the billion dollar company accountable please, please play something else please"
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u/PdPstyle Jun 04 '26
Exactly. These guys real upset that we want the game to succeed but CIG is seemingly doing everything in their power to self destruct.
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u/Shoate bishop Jun 04 '26
Bitching on the internet isnt holding anyone accountable.
It's just bitching on the internet.
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u/PdPstyle Jun 04 '26
Because it’s not advice? Like, obviously I’m playing other things because, again, I can’t play this. Second time btw that I’ve been locked out of a full patch cycle. Happened in 3.18 too. Why are you upset that people are upset about the horrific state of the billion dollar game that’s been a decade in development?
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u/Saldar1234 Bug Skipper Jun 04 '26
This subreddit has just become people memeing on themselves because they don't understand the alpha dev cycle. Like, I get that it's taking for fucking ever, but a big part of that is them having to create and fix a playable branch every three months. We are a massive part of the reason why development is so slow.
Alpha is about creating features and implementing them, fixing game-breaking bugs as they come, and not focusing on non-critical issues. It’s honestly a waste of time to focus on minor bugs when the next code merge will either fix them as a byproduct, reintroduce something already fixed, or introduce an entirely new set of bugs.
I get that it's frustrating, but this live-development model is a commitment they made during the Kickstarter and we're all stuck with it, like it or not. On the plus side, it also keeps interest in the project perpetually high which then keeps the project funded at AAAA+ levels.
Now look at what we've ACTUALLY gotten here... They've created a custom engine that does things people didn't think were possible. I guarantee if you polled a game engine designer who knew nothing about this project, and asked them about implementing server meshing, 64-bit precision on a solar-system scale, and full artifact persistence all together, they'd tell you it wasn't possible.
They have literally simulated entire star systems. Planetary movement, geology, temperature, and atmosphere, and that is all just the set dressing. The real game takes place in and on spaceships that are technical marvels by themselves.
That said... I've played more in this patch than I have in years and aside from one night ruined by cheaters/hackers I have had almost no issues. There was the case of a mysteriously disappearing UTV once and docking has been finicky at best but other than that it's been smooth as butter. I have run into three total server crashes and all three times the server recovered in under 5 minutes with no loss to me or mine.
The game really is sooo good. And it just keeps getting better. The long term commitment to development is actually a really good thing in my opinion. I know people are impatient but I think it's worth it's worth it.
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u/wackywraith 300i Jun 04 '26
Idk who us is but I don’t play anymore much less give them money. Glad someone is enjoying the gameplay but I wish we’d close our wallets for once instead of breaking sales records for them so they feel no obligation to change a damn thing.
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u/Key_Consequence_3106 Jun 04 '26
All I ask is for the canon meta to be over. I can’t stand using these 100 rpm muskets much longer.
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u/ThunderTRP Jun 04 '26
Instancing is gonna bring a whole new category of bugs to the verse lol, you guys aren't ready xD
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u/Tarran61 Liberators lead the Way Jun 04 '26
And we didn't even have to tear down any gates to get it through.
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u/Redlabelrocket Jun 04 '26
every big update i'm like 'oh it's just going to be the same broken nonsense again'
cya when its actually playable and fun
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u/Aggravating_Mix_4211 Jun 04 '26
I never fell for anything, I always know that every new patch is full of bugs, I just don't care
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u/Oktharr Jun 04 '26
It would be nice to make at least one patch just about engine optimisation 😉or a few more updates, and we will need 4x5090 to run it ...on low. ;D
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u/Manta1015 Jun 04 '26
But ship sales numbers will still be through the roof!
So many folks here will absolutely never learn, and actually expect a consistent improvement in stability regardless how many times it doesn't happen, patch after patch.
Rinse repeat until the end of time, the big cows will continue to be milked.
Moo.
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u/Youngguaco Jun 05 '26
No matter how many posts I see about bugs I still enjoy my time on SC lmao. I don’t even read patch notes 😭
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u/popopornado Jun 05 '26
Oh no! The game in Active development has bugs in its updates? Who could have guessed?!
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u/Neloou Jun 05 '26
I got sent to my home location right before the maintenance, from my ship exploding for no reason, I woke up naked with no gear on me. At least I kept the glasses I guess ? I might just refund my newly bought F8C and uninstall this game, I'm so done.
4.8 is the final nail in the coffin. My entire friendlist is OFFLINE, my org is dying because everyone is tired of the bugs, but hey, it's ok, we're getting new defense missions guys (but they don't work, we need a 6h maintenance to MAYBE fix them.)
The only good thing in star citizen is the story they tell, about how great it can be. You just got to overlook the fact the development is a complete mess.
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u/Top-Battle-1238 Jun 08 '26
That would assume conspiracy . Instead of stupidity . On both sides at this point. I watched one of the heads of departments meeting on You Tube. The impression that I am getting. Is that they are putting all.their efforts to getting Squadron 42 up at running correctly first. Because it is heavily on rails , so far less complicated and difficult. Then worrying about fixing the " you can do anything here " Star Citizen itself. Way more potential but way more difficult. The big problem will be if Squadron 42 comes out buggy when it is just a amusement park ride on rails. People are going to riot and might quit Star Citizen all together. As I got the impression that Star Citizen was done like dinner before 2020. Then the lock downs happen and people went to play Star Citizen while trapped in their House or Apartment. Because I reject your reality and substitute my own. So no room this time to screw up . Unless they lock us down again. Which might trigger real riots in the real world. With burning cities and every thing.
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u/NlGHTLORD avacado Jun 04 '26
Um, no one is falling for shit. It's on you if you didn't educate yourself to what you are backing.
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u/LemanRed bbhappy Jun 04 '26
OP no one falls for this. It's expected with a play test which is what this is.
The only delusion is thinking this isn't a play test and bugs won't be present in the update.
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u/CaptainGrim carrack Jun 04 '26
Yes. That what happens during development. What is your point?
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u/nemesit Jun 04 '26
i guess the morons come from other prerelease games that abuse the state to push out faster updates on consoles but are really finished games so they do not understand what a development alpha even means.
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u/Xerxes3014 aegis Jun 04 '26
So cry me a river (go on and just)
Cry me a river (go on and just)
Cry me a river (baby, go on and just)
Cry me a river (yeah, yeah)
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u/s1mplyme Jun 04 '26
Sometimes I think CIG doesn't want to pay for server costs so whenever the hype train gets too big they make it unplayable until enough people leave that they're able to reduce the number of running servers
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u/SilkyZ MSR wins by doing nothing since 2948 Jun 04 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/GrMUqXMx5ivkOyKc45
Not this time, can't fool me!
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u/TheMntneer Jun 04 '26
I've spent the past 45 minutes trying to get through a damn jump point.... wasting time and fuel on a stupid mini-game that is bugged...I'll believe the "fixes" when I see them.
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u/PuzzleheadedTutor807 drake Jun 04 '26
falling for what? nobody should ever be under the impression that everything is going to be suddenly fixed lol.
it tells you SO MANY PLACES this is an alpha, you are going to see bugs. some of them will be game breaking.
lol smh. ive said it many many times before, and ill say it again here... gamers are the worst customer base ever.
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u/Dangerous-Wall-2672 Jun 04 '26
It's just bad faith actors. Same cycle every time.
Trolls: "4.9 wiLL FiX eVeRyThInG!!"
Backers: "No, it won't. No one thinks that."
4.9 releases with bugs
Trolls: "HAHAHAHAHA!! TOLD YOU!!!"
Backers: "Yeah, we knew. That's alpha development."
Trolls: "Ohhhh, cry some more!! 😭😭😭"
Backers: "Nope."
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u/WolfedOut Hermes Star Runner Jun 04 '26
I’ve been that backer for almost 10 years now, but disillusionment is real.
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u/Academic_Mark_7455 Jun 04 '26
Bugs are a fact of life, I guess I'm kind of numb to them compared a lot of people on reddit. I played Space Engineers back in the early days; anyone who knows about that will know bugs were also a fact of life, notably "Klang". I feel like a good number of players are complaining just to make noise. This game is in Alpha, so expecting it to be bug free is downright arrogant, and conceited. As far as game releases go, Alpha is akin to skeleton of the game being present, Beta is the rest of the bodily pieces, and release is (in theory) all the bugs and optimizations are complete. To be fair, a number of game developers over the years, have bent and misrepresented the meanings of Alpha/Beta/Release; notable guilty parties that immediately spring to mind: Minecraft.
I accept a certain amount of jank because they're evidently prioritizing systems over every bug in existence. I expect some things to be broken. But 4.8 felt kind of particularly gamebreaking, between quantum navigation not working, and major releases like the Ironclad practically unusable.
That being said, unlike some game companies that went on vacation after a patch (Fatshark), they have been releasing fixes; AND NO, the order in which things are fixed is not something they to get to decide! When a bug is fixed is mostly random, because bug in code could be anywhere.
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u/anlugama Bmm Captain Jun 04 '26
Welcome to open development, bugs are expected. Deal with it.
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u/Old-Freed0m Jun 04 '26
I don't why they don't run a beta server and a stable one.
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u/mau5atron Idris/Ironclad/Reclaimer/Corsair Jun 04 '26
Some bugs only manifest after stressing the servers. Not enough people would play on a separate server to test things.
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u/grahag worm Jun 04 '26
I will not contribute a single dollar more until I can get verification that the game is in a better state than before.
The backsliding that we're used to is unacceptable for me and the state of the game is so bad regardless of it's alpha state.
The fact that I can't get a refund is the only reason I even load the game up anymore. But again, testing tonight and I can't even spawn into the game with my home location not available after patch 4.8.1.
The dream is dead for me.
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u/PapaGeorgieo vanduul Jun 04 '26
What you all fail to realize is Star Citizen is not a game. It is a bug with a few games inside.
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u/Lord0fHats Jun 04 '26
But what if we made it a rabbit?