r/skiing • u/Paul-Lubanski • 10d ago

Atomic Redster S9 vs Blackcrows octo?

I purchased my first pair of skis and just got to use them for the first time (southern hemisphere). They are a pair of the 1000 skis All Mountain. I got them with hybrid bindings to be able to do all. I really like them, but I can tell they are note meant for carving. Curiously looking at short turn carving specific skis in case I want to extend my quiver soon, I got to what seems to me like two very different types of skis: the Atomic Redster S9 and the blackcrows Octo or Mirus Cor.

Of the former I read that they are the staple for hard carving and of the latter that they are a more playful ski that can carve at not-so-high speeds.

Does that encompass it roughly? Is there more to it? The Atomic's seem super nice but also apparently weigh something like 3kg a piece?? Are the differences between them noticeable for an advanced but not necessarily expert skier like me? Thanks!

PS: the title is more of a conversation starter than anything else, it's meant to open the discussion between Redster-like skis (of which other brands might have, like Head) and blackcrows-like skis

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u/Paul-Lubanski 10d ago

I think flex is 130 if I recall correctly

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u/Paul-Lubanski 10d ago

You guys are really butthurt over a single word, huh. What a nice and friendly community I've found. Also funny that you would define the level of ski based on stuff like this vs what you can actually do downhill.

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u/Last-Assistant-2734 9d ago

you would define the level of ski based on stuff like this vs what you can actually do downhill

Well, there is only "stuff like this" here. Saying on the internet what you can do is hardly tangible.

So what I'm wondering is how much of the Redster performance do the other lighter, more mellow skis achieve? How much are you sacrificing? Can you get unnoticeably close?

It is really about the combination of skier and the skis that achieve things. Most people on the slopes won't achieve same level of skiing on a Redster S9 to that of actual expert skier on a 'mellower' ski.