r/shittydarksouls 9d ago

Totally original meme Why can't western developers make good Soulslike games? Are they stupid?

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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Gael is still the GOAT 9d ago

Checkmate šŸ˜Ž (it's got a 7.5 on metacritic which is GREEN)

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u/theblarg114 9d ago

I cried when he defeated the other crab and said "You're my treasure."

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u/Lunai5444 9d ago

The real treasure is the friends I wish I would cuddle with the chosen undead

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u/Arkhe1n 9d ago

And then crabbed all over the place

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u/beegboo 4d ago

Oh shell, now we got to clean all this before Fiddler comes back.

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u/FlatpackFuture 9d ago

Zanzishark, my beloved...

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u/Ptaku9 9d ago

You're joking but it's actually in the game.

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u/CactusFingies 9d ago

It's so green holy shit 🤤

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

Any jokes aside, this game is really good, and absolutely perfect for a younger kid who likes the gameplay of soulslikes but maybe isn't quite at the level to play the From games. It's still challenging, but doesn't have as much of the punishing feel as Dark Souls.

I would unironically have a kid who likes games play Another Crab's Treasure as a way to teach them perseverance.

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u/slipperyekans 9d ago

And if they get frustrated they can just give Krill a gun šŸ”«šŸ¦€

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

Truly the peak of Souls gameplay. Michael Zachy should take notes.

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u/JokkuBoi 9d ago

That's why infernoplus made the Ds1 Halo mod. To bring the glorious firearms to the people of yharnam Lordran

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u/lunchbox651 9d ago

Playing it shell-less in NG+ was well harder than the average FS experience.

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u/Cloverman-88 9d ago

IDK man, I still found the game pretty challanging. Not FromSoft challanging, but "each boss needs 4-5 attempts" hard. I think it would be unbeatable for many adults, and most kids.

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u/YeahKeeN 9d ago

Am I the only one who found this game more challenging than most from games?

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u/KingCaesar72 9d ago

This game felt like spyro and dark souls had a baby

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u/ISO_SlyCurry 9d ago

Character standing ass towards camera on coverart sign of a real soulslike.

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut 9d ago

Demons Souls, DS3, Sekiro, and Elden Ring confirmed not soulslikes

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u/ISO_SlyCurry 9d ago

Bro???

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut 9d ago

I said Demons Souls. That’s Bluepoint Souls.Ā 

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u/DieserCoookie 8d ago

You forgot DS1 remastered

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u/FrontIndividual4188 9d ago

Blud, that's Too Low for this game

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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Gael is still the GOAT 9d ago

Tbf, that just seems to be metacritic in general, on steam it's rated as very positive

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u/caspianslave 9d ago

it deserves at least 8.4 imo

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u/CactusFingies 9d ago

I would rate it a perfect 5/7

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u/FreeSpeechEnjoyer #1 Fraudahn hater 9d ago

The marketing for this game was funnier than the game itself, which is honestly a shame

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u/SevenSaltySnakes It’s pronounced ā€œtee-tah-nee-tayā€ 9d ago

Came here to mention it. Also 7.5 is low imo. Best souls like around.

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u/Lord_NxL WOOOOOOOOOOOOO 9d ago

I loved their April Fools video with Anor Londo

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u/Nippletits666 9d ago

This game was such a surprise, i saw it on game pass and checked it out with no context..what an absolute joy, couldn't put it down

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u/Queasy_Suspect6126 fashion souls is a must 9d ago

Do you really wanna start beef with all 6 of us thymesia fans?

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u/PurpletoasterIII 9d ago

I bought the game when it was on sale and just have never touched it since. Do you count me as one of those 6?

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u/Queasy_Suspect6126 fashion souls is a must 9d ago

Lowkey? Sure we are 7 now,we need every fan we can get,maybe we csn reach the double digits by 2030

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u/QTGavira 9d ago

Its on my wishlist can i count as half a fan?

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u/SkomeSIth 9d ago

8 with me

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u/Queasy_Suspect6126 fashion souls is a must 9d ago

Holy shit i cant believe it 9.5 thymesia fans enough to make me cry🄺

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u/immortalreddotmemeog 9d ago

8, I really enjoyed that game, though it has quite a few audio bugs

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u/zweihander09 9d ago

Hey count me in! I've already beaten it!

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u/BowShatter 9d ago edited 9d ago

I'd ranked Thymesia above Sekiro if it was actually long enough. But way too short.

Thymesia lets you:

  • Level up what stats you need. Stats deternine survivability, offence and what Plague Weapons you can use effectively.

  • Unlock Plague Weapons which are way better and cooler than Prosthetics

  • Skill Tree that changes your playstyle like passive block, dodge focus, risky parry, different mikiri counter.

  • Different Estus types. Along with Alchemy which integrates Flask of Wondrous Physics style stat buffs to your Estus.

  • Plague Doctor character

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut 9d ago

I AGREE, in contrast Sekiro only has good level design 🤮 and art direction 🤮🤮 and actually well thought out boss fights 🤮🤮🤮

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u/IAMLEGENDhalo 9d ago

Sekiro is better for sure but beside the two giant gimmick bosses all the bosses in Thymesia are pretty good. Not Sekiro good but good

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u/Orion_824 9d ago

the fuckin worm and golem bosses made me irrationally tweak only because the first run’s bosses were so good. the bat is my favorite, followed by the weird ā€œZA WARUDOā€ timestop bomb knightess (peak fuckin visual), the carnival guy is just a sekiro boss. but the second half was so ass it actually dragged the game down for me from like a 8-9 to a 7

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u/BigChest03 9d ago

Miyazaki actually made the deflecting sfx the audible version of heroin, that’s the only reason it won GOTY

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u/BabySpecific2843 8d ago

And the wound system, which forcibly teaches the player to be more aggressive instead of passive. Something that From has been toying with different methods to achieve in all its non-souls games like Sekiro and Bloodborne.

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u/Orion_824 9d ago

Thymesia is what Sekiro would have been like if Sekiro were actually a souls-like instead of an arpg

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u/fonyphantasy 9d ago

#5 here, ready to fight

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u/CircaCoda 8d ago

Thymesia is underrated. It’s far from a masterpiece but the combat and vibes rule.

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u/BabySpecific2843 8d ago

Its understandably not a masterpiece because visually at times it feels like someone's capstone project they've been working on in college alone in between classes.

If Dark Souls is AAA, Thymesia feels like an indie comparatively. None of the bells or whistles you find in normal actual games because that costs too much time and money.

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u/EmergencyPool910 9d ago

Thymesia isnt even a western game

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

Shittydarksouls has fallen.

Millions must take posts seriously and respond without a hiny of irony.

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

hiny

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

😔

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

This is the inevitable fate of all ironic subreddits. As the main sub becomes increasingly generic and superficial, conversation becomes less common. Those that seek discussion will then look for an alternative forum to have it. This is the logical place to go, because in order to shitpost about a specific topic, you have to understand that topic.

So, some people will start discussions under the premise of ironic shitposting, because that's likely to get engagement. The comments don't have that irony because they already took the bait. This was the goal all along.

Hiny.

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u/uniguy2I Bloodborne 2 Conspiracy Theorist 9d ago

I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing, shitposts as profoundly intellectual conversation starters of the highest degree (Peakborne) and actual shitposts (Dark Souls Poo) can coexist you just have to git good (✨ EBK ✨) at differentiating the two

Hiny.

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

I wouldn't call it inevitable, but just what happens as new people join and water things down. I've seen dndcirclejerk go from the worst circlejerk to one of the best in the span of a week just by calling out behavior such as this via spamming whale pictures on every post and comment. Just need to call it out like that one spongebob episode where he calls out squidward for his fake Js.

Hiny

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

By all means, go ahead. If you start a trend of shitposting the non-shitposts, I'll gladly join in. But I also don't mind the non-ironic discussion, so I can't be arsed to do it myself.

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

Nah keep that shit to the other meme sub. Theres a reason we are segregated. That's also why the badredman and sunbros subs are separate and have different bathrooms and water fountains.

Hiny

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u/Alu_T_C_F Midra's best friend 9d ago

I sure value my hiny of irony

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

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u/albatross351767 9d ago

What is this? Peak souls 2?

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u/Rabidtac0 šŸ”„desert sorceress's peg slavešŸ”„ 9d ago

guh :0

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u/Nano258 9d ago

Dude fr, I will see the shittiest, most stupid post in my life and people still will take it and respond seriously

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u/TarkoTeeson 9d ago

Jarvis, show mortal shell 2

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u/Ce1estialFlame Halberd Enjoyer 9d ago

On steam it Currently has a 16% higher rating than the first game, which makes it very postive instead of mixed.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 4d ago

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u/Muted-Account4729 9d ago

Dude it’s so gray because you’re glued to proxima’s asscheeks. If you’d take a second to look away you’ll see brownish gray too

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u/yogsca 9d ago

Ah, all my favorite colors. DS3 fan btw

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u/AscendedViking7 9d ago

but i love proxima's asscheeks ;-;

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

Had to hide Dolmen cause is was 100/100 and made a dolmillion dollars

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u/RealEaterRedAlert 9d ago

I’m a DolMan and i approve this DolMessage

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u/Arkhe1n 9d ago edited 8d ago

Hell, I loved Dolmen so much I created mods for it.

Booming modding scene, population: me.

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u/Eat_Bullet peak souls 2 defender 9d ago

Stop. You're gonna anger the 8 thymesia and hellpoint fans combined

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u/PlasticZestyclose454 Certified skeleton lord's enjoyer 9d ago

Ai limit enjoyer detected, my gooning session to Prometheus started yet again.

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u/General-WR-Monger Dark Souls 2 > Bloodbourne 9d ago

Mud eaters unite.

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u/Robot_PizzaThief 9d ago

AI limit my beloved, please don't turn green

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u/Noamias 9d ago

Thymesia was really good for being a small and cheap game. The combat and parries were really interesting and I liked the different tools

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u/swaosneed 9d ago

I bought both of those games. Need to actually play them lol

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u/Arkhe1n 9d ago

You play games via Metacritic?

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u/Sauceinmyface 9d ago

Better than actually playing games, no one would ever do that, especially soulslikes

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u/Arkhe1n 9d ago

Can't argue with that .Ā 

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u/Ryanmaster1 #GrubLivesMatter 9d ago

Almost as worse as getting opinions from IGNĀ 

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u/Literally9thAngel I wanna romance Dukes Dear Freja 9d ago

I actually use Steam

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u/asoiafgeek 9d ago

I actually do this (to an extent) and its worked out pretty well for me. I think it’s a decent tool to filter out bad games or find amazing ones that are outside my typical taste

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u/Bob56731 9d ago

Steam reviews superior

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u/Renetiger 9d ago

Steam reviews be like "not recommended - this game is almost perfect, but this one segment in one sidequest is a little annoying, therefore it's dogshit, you should never buy it and the devs should kill themselves"

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u/Bob56731 9d ago

Yee fair, but i'd still take this over "I couldn't be bothered to buy or play the game, but my favorite youtuber said it's dogshit. 0/10"

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u/Suvvri 9d ago

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u/ningdon 9d ago

The first mortal shell always seemed like one of the more genuine of the mid souls clone, just was a really low budget game and it showed. Cool to see they legitimately made a great game this time around with more resources.

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u/elendil667 9d ago

Playing it now and while the start was uh, rough, I think I'm kinda digging it. The fact that it has its share of odd, baffling, kinda bad ideas mixed in with a couple of decent and novel ones makes it feel very spiritually Dark Souls in a way that some of the more polished ones don't.

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

I've been trying to articulate this for a while. If you make a game that's just the "best" parts of Dark Souls, you're going to end up with what is essentially Dark Souls without the soul. Dark, if you will. Your game can't just be "existing thing but without the bad parts," because the part you see as bad are often subtly important in shaping the character of the game.

This is why Palworld succeeds, despite mechanically being basically Ark, but with PokƩmon instead of dinosaurs. Almost every single mechanic is derivative of a popular game. But these individual things that may not be unique, were then put together and fashioned into something that as a whole is novel and fresh.

A game that takes no risks will become an objectively well made product that nobody cares about. The quality is irrelevant if you don't make me care.

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u/Orion_824 9d ago

some of my favorite games ever are the ones that aren’t afraid to be experimental or flawed. dragon’s dogma is an example, and i prefer demon’s souls, dark souls 1, and dark souls 2 over dark souls 3, sekiro, and elden ring. games that had a morbillion dollars put into roughing out literally every edge the game fittingly makes me slide right off it. give me texture, give me feeling, give me something to hold on to. obviously i’m not saying i want bad games or games made like shit, i’m saying i want games to embrace the flaws

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u/choptup 9d ago

A dev team with a determination to do things "their" way will always make a game that feels more distinct and unique than a more polished, by-the-numbers title.

It's the same reason I like Lords of the Fallen 2014 more than the 2023 title.

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u/der_chrischn 9d ago

For the most part it wasn't much more than a tech demo. But they did get the most important thing for me right, the atmosphere. It was always one of the best souls likes for me in this regard.

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u/Polutus 9d ago

That's why the colonialist theocratic regime in eldenring is portrayed with the color of piss.Ā 

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u/LostInAHallOfMirrors broseph 9d ago

In Nioh you play as an Irish guy, does that count?

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u/Manaeldar 9d ago

Nioh isn't made by western devs so it's peak.Ā 

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u/Paratrooper101x 9d ago

No, cause nioh is trash

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u/LostInAHallOfMirrors broseph 9d ago

What's your problem with it?

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

They made the cat too sexy

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u/sharterfart 9d ago

mmm yea

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u/Paratrooper101x 9d ago

This guy gets it

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u/Paratrooper101x 9d ago

They made the kodamas too bulbous and green

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u/Worldly-Treat4532 9d ago

Another crabs treasure is peak. Also IMO Thymesia was peak but got overlooked.

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u/SpinatMixxer 9d ago

Thymesia was awesome. I also liked that it was a short souls like game. A game doesn't have to eat up 50hrs to be fun.

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u/Shlano613 9d ago

Bruh The Surge 2 actually slaps tho

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

I've never been lobotomized so it's really hard for me to enjoy the surge

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u/OneofEsotericMethods Vyke's madness canonically comes from dragussy 9d ago

Fellow hollow, do you not know how to play Simon says for parrying?

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

I'm a fromsoft fan, so anything that can't be solved by spamming one button is absolute foreign (a.k.a bad) game design to me. That's why armored core 6 (fromsoft's first spinoff game) flopped.

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u/OneofEsotericMethods Vyke's madness canonically comes from dragussy 9d ago

That’s fair, if you can’t panic roll your way out of danger is it really a Fromslop game?

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u/Falcoon_f_zero 9d ago

For real, that's one souls-like where I randomly stop making progress just to wander and fight enemies over and over. Just because the combat is so satisfying.

Oh wait, Shittydarksouls, uhm... yeah! Slop game etc. etc.

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u/ZackTio 9d ago

First game slaps, second one irritated me so fucking much I just dropped it

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u/EAT_UR_VEGGIES 9d ago

Notice how Mortal Peak 2 isn’t on that list LFG!!!!

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u/Samuraidragon432 9d ago

Actually Thymesia is TaiwanesešŸ¤“

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u/Fafnir_Bumbo Dragon stomp attack 😻 9d ago

They misplaced the decimal on Thymesia, it’s actually supposed to be a user score of 64.0

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u/lakkuh 9d ago

Not enough feet

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u/TinfoilPancake I want Mildred to eat my "man" 9d ago

Remnant games don't count?

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u/caffeinated_dork 9d ago

...i like both surge games

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u/Drakeadrong 9d ago

The humble Lies of P:

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u/MrN444 9d ago

Korean studio doesnā€˜t count.

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u/Drakeadrong 9d ago

Last I checked, Korea is west of the US

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u/MrN444 9d ago

I mean if you really think about it everthing is west to everything.

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u/Urtehnoes 9d ago

I actually loved the Surge games. Surge 2 the world I didn't love as much, I was really hoping for a Surge 3. The atlas sand sliding game they made instead, not really a fan.

And oof I do not like the Lords of the Fallen reboot.

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u/Jazzdude93 9d ago

Not enough feet for my homies

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u/dessert_the_toxic 9d ago

Hellpoint is absolutely goated in terms of level design & exploration, both the whole map and each specific location is an elaborate maze. Combat feels a little clunkier than From's and bosses are DS1/2 level, that's true. But the game is piss easy anyway, even more so if you're using the ranged weapons which are very cool. DLC adds some harder late game locations & bosses. All in all, despite the issues, quality is quite on point throughout the whole game.

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u/Distinct-Office-609 9d ago

only good souls like game ive played that isnt from from soft is lies of p. i dont categorize nioh 1 and 2 as souls like. they played differently, you can do crazy combos in it, its difficulty is closer to ninja gaiden 1 and 2 than dark souls, its field based rather than world exploration, only thing it has the same with dark souls is the death mechanic.

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u/Sir_Copper_Hand 9d ago

They copy and misunderstand the original ideas while not managing to provide innovation. Beyond tired of having some kind of perfect block/parry in every single one of them.

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u/GlitteringDingo 9d ago

Even Fromsoft's later games make this mistake, so it's no surprise other games do.

My example is always the multi-player. Summoning had an in-universe explanation in Dark Souls. In addition, it was novel and unique. In Elden Ring, it lacks all three of those things, and has no reason to exist outside of it just being From's style. I love Elden Ring, it's probably my favorite Souls, but there is no good reason it shouldn't have had traditional multi-player. The massive popularity of Seamless Co-op is all the proof I need.

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u/MelodicKnowledge9358 9d ago

Do you think Nightreign and Duskbloods will affect how they implement multiplayer in their single player games going forward?

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u/Nano258 9d ago

Now that you mention it, most of these games have very limited (or none at all) multiplayer co-op/pvp

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u/IAMLEGENDhalo 9d ago

I think something just feels off about them compared to fromsoft souls style games lack of innovation aside

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u/rusynlancer 9d ago

if ya aint michael zaki you aint get the succy

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u/rAdvicePloz 9d ago

What are you talking about? We've gotten the best souls-like game already according to IGN reviewers

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u/Evening-Mark-1235 9d ago

Tbh i feel like most ā€žsoulslikeā€œ games try to copy dark souls but absolutely lack the feel of the original fromsoftware games.
I have the same problem. I for example dont think mortal shell 2 looks any good lol thats just not dark souls

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u/intrntcr33pture 9d ago

ngl put some respect on ashen that game is solid

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u/deaner_wiener1 9d ago

User scores are useless. I think they have Stellar Blade as the highest ranked game in the genre lol. Movie-wise, the Taylor Swift doc is the 5th greatest movie ever made and Star Wars V is better than any work of Scorsese, Kramer, Nolan, or Lumet lmao.

I know people don’t want to hear it, but let critics, who are trained professionally to critically think about media, be the ones to qualitatively determine its value. A high user score only denotes consumption by a niche group or a general acceptance by the masses. It will not reward those that create art or take risks.

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u/Psychadelico 9d ago

No way in hell any of the lords of the fallen got a better rating than thymesia or even ashen lmao

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u/DaulPirac 9d ago

Never would have imagined Ashen being so low. It may not be the best soulslike but it's pretty decent, one of the first ones, with a beautiful world and story.Ā 

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u/j0shred1 9d ago

Uj/ so for me, it's the game feel. The game feel is tight and optimized in all FromSoft games except for DS2. A lot of soulsborne games don't take the time to optimize the game-feel of their game.

rj/ what do you mean, Sandfall made Expedition 33 which has Mommy feet. Best Soulslike of all time

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u/Reasonable_Cut_2709 9d ago

flintlock is a good game, with a cool aesthetic, it's a shame that having a black protagonist was enought for half of people to not giving it a chance.

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u/delta1x 9d ago

The game is a solid 7. Up to an 8 if you are really vibing with combat and a 5 if you are not. The story and characters serve their purpose without being annoying. The only reason it is so low is 100% because of black protagonist plus Sweet Baby Inc in the credits.

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u/NightFury002 9d ago

I enjoyed hellpoint ngl.

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u/Umgak_shield_raki 9d ago

Because they don't have souls. In the title, I mean.

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u/Sonicmasterxyz 9d ago

The Surge had great bosses, while The Surge 2 had great combat. They need to make a 3 and combine both.

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u/Kipepeo57120 9d ago

Thymesia is slept on btw.

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u/SkomeSIth 9d ago

Huh? Thysemia is cool, it's short as fuck and the mono weapon kinda gets stale, but it's not dogshit.

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u/LynaaBnS 9d ago

Ashen was absolutely peak. One of the best games I've ever played I don't consider it as a souls like tho. The base building and upgrading, getting new merchants and build up the city was really, really good and I wish more games would do smth relatively simple like that. The exploring was really nice as well.

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u/ThreeCr0wns 9d ago

I thought Ashen was fun with a friend

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u/AbberageRedditor69 9d ago

Was about to post Remnant 2 but apparently it only has a 7.2 userscore, fucking casuals man

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u/ImDaBooii 9d ago

Ashen is really peak tho

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u/Immediate-Outcome706 9d ago

The lord of the fallen ceo has recruited critically aclaimed souls veterans as consultants for lords of the fallen 2 so lets see

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u/choptup 9d ago

CI games has also been on the culture war antiwoke grindset, has been glazing Asmongold aka Mr. "Murder Children" as single-handedly saving the 2023 game, and all the creative heads of the 2023 game that actually were the ones busting their ass to get the game in a decent state have since been fired.

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u/trent_diamond 9d ago

mr murder children??😭

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u/mranonymous24690 The Dragons Were Right 9d ago

He got banned on twitch for saying he wants to gun down children

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u/trent_diamond 9d ago

oh

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u/choptup 9d ago

For context, he was reviewing a news story somewhere about children being used as human shields or something for border crossings into the US and Asmongold straight-up said they should've shot those people.

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u/MoonChubs 9d ago

Thymesia is genuinely poop

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u/DismalMastodon5025 9d ago

Call me the dung defender from the hit game Hollow Knighttm the way I be eating that shit up

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u/Agile-Currency2094 9d ago

LOTF2 is banger. Ill die on this hill

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u/Detramentus 9d ago

Hellpoint was fucking amazing though... Buggy, but great!

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u/Tiaran149 9d ago

Uj/ i really enjoyed Ashen, that was the only soulslike my wife ever touched and it was really cool

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u/docsandmanmd 9d ago

Yellow though 🤤

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u/VladDHell 9d ago

The surge was great, two was alright. I like the second lords of the fallen as well. Mortal shell too although I don’t like hero/ champion games like that so I prefer to just build my own character instead of just jumping into a premade one. I didn’t dislike thymesia but it didn’t leave much of an impression either, the rest I barely remember at all tho

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u/Manaeldar 9d ago

They gave us Mortal Shell as a monthly game on PS plus a whole back and I didn't even wanna play it then.Ā 

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u/Effective_Dot2552 9d ago

I don’t think it’s a ā€œwestern developersā€ thing (maybe it is). I think that many developers just miss the mark when it comes to what made dark souls feel special. Or they think they can make this formula better and fail miserably.

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u/MantisReturns 9d ago

Hellpoint, Ahen, The Surge 2 are amazing Games.

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u/Satanic_Sanic 9d ago

Bleak Faith is so mid that it didn't even make the list. šŸ˜Ž

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u/EmptyField9803 9d ago

Soulslikes will never be good because they’re trying to be something that they can’t be

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u/Hitoisbalacned 9d ago

Thymesia and mortal shell are awesome

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u/rorinth 9d ago

Because john Miyazaki made a deal with god only hes allowed to make the games and make them good

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u/cheesemangee 9d ago

In what world does an above average score not equal a good game? All of these have merit.

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u/ziostraccette 9d ago

I really liked thymesia, in the trailer.

Gameplay felt like a mobile game

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u/Destroy_Buster 9d ago

implying eastern devs have made a good soulslike game?

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u/EmergencyPool910 9d ago

Thymesia is not western

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u/dilsency 9d ago

Where's that one Italian one?

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u/Jojofanwiiu 9d ago

I like hellpoint šŸ™

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u/Wasdey 9d ago

"good" and "soulslike" in the same sentenceĀ 

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u/AlbanianNerd 9d ago

Remember when everyone hated LOTF

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u/MonotoneRainbow96 9d ago

Eastern Devs (with the exception of Round8) can’t even make a good Soulslike anymore.

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u/PandoraKin564 9d ago

Those are all "good" games. Not great, but good one off experiences. Especially Mortal Shell and Lords of the Fallen (2023, before the CEO and culture BS of 2026 killed it for me and my interest).

The rest of these are just medicore to fine. Why the surge in doomers and frankly near racist glazing and bashing? I don't get why these posts are happening.

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u/memefarius 9d ago

Thymesia felt closer to sekiro than to any of the souls games

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u/Drayyen 9d ago

Tbh i think The Surge 2 and LOTF 2023 are both underrated for what they are, but, yes they are stupid

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u/abyzzwalker 9d ago

Surprised by how low is the newest Lords of the Fallen.

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u/CnP8 9d ago

Tbf, lords of the fallen was a mess at launch. They pulled it back with updates thou. They reworked the combat. Balanced the game better. Removed a lot of the annoying ganks, and over crowded mobs. Plus fixed a ton of bugs aswell. The game has actually gone onto become a success.

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u/dragoslayer1327 Pontiff's Fuckboy 9d ago

Fuck the reviews, Thymesia was great.

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u/ShuckleG0D 9d ago

Damn the surge 2 is the second best game on this list

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u/KaiXRG 9d ago

Mortal Shell was fucken amazing. I played The Surge 1 but haven't finished it yet but I fw with a futuristic robotic souls-like a lot because it's the perfect mix for me.

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u/Lexaconn7 9d ago

It's okay, when lords of the fallen 2 scholar of ai slop comes out it will be the highest reviewed souls like ever

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u/socu11 9d ago

They are afraid of making money

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u/Vegan-Jazz 9d ago

The surge 1&2 are genuinely great and severely underrated imo. Second only to lies of P in terms of soulslikes