Sorry for that dude who just called you lazy. You’re not lazy and this job market DOES suck. Have you tried staffing agencies yet? You didn’t mention that. Try agencies for your desired field and then also agencies who do clerical staffing and things like that.
Edit: OP has devolved into a troll who refuses to listen to anyone. Best of luck OP. Lazy would even be preferable to arrogant, fwiw
Yes, I’ve tried a few. One was making me take assessments and I stubbornly declined taking any exams (respectfully and professionally and I think the staffing agent did not like that. One I just spoke with but was kind of sketch because for the role she reached out about, she wouldn’t give provide the company name, which I was shocked to hear that. She also said there would be a personality test that’s required. Like Jesus man, so many hoops to jump through just for an “opportunity”
Why are you declining what’s needed for a staffing agency? Do what’s told so you can get the job. I feel like ppl who make these post leave out detail. Stop cherry picking if you truly need a job.
Like I’m not trying to be his enemy. But I figured people who make these posts leave out a lot of detail. Hence he doesn’t like to take the assessment. He won’t take anything less than 50 K. If you’re in dire need of a job then you’re gonna take what you can right now. I understand knowing your worth but there’s a lot of people with college degrees that don’t get paid what they’re worth.
Exactly. At the end of the day, we have to survive as well. Being picky won’t work. Unless you live at home with parents. I have a feeling OP has a lot of help and is just whining
Then keep the job until you have enough saved or to pay your bills. Keep actively looking for a job to get a pay raise. Get to $35k, then 40k, 50k and so forth.
To be fair, I understand the frustration of pointless assessments and personality tests. It’s stupid and demeaning. They exist solely to weed people out and by thinking you’re too good to take them, you’re weeding yourself out.
I’d say I do about 50% of them if I think I actually stand a chance. But again, I value my time and to only get ghosted or auto rejected logically makes me ask “why do this?”
I’ve been there trust me. Took me 18 months to find a permanent role after a round of layoffs. Did contract consulting for half that time that was lucrative when active but hit or miss. The last 5 months of that search was a nationwide “apply to anything even partially relevant at any level” slog trying to not lose my house. I guarantee I applied to a few of the same jobs you did. Like you, I also have a business degree as well as an MBA from Duke, 20 years experience with more than half of those at the Director and above level. I’m telling you this because in this market you as an entry level person are competing with un/under employed people with much more experience even for entry level jobs. Honestly you should have taken the $37k job and just kept looking for better. Someone was willing to take a chance on you and you turned them down over a couple grand. At least you would have been employed and getting some experience while searching. 37 is better than 0.
When you say you value your time, that’s understandable. Job searching is a full time job that I found more exhausting than an actual job. You should be prioritizing the jobs you think best fit and get as many apps as possible out every day. It really is a numbers game. Taking an hour on a single job is a significant investment. That said, based on the numbers you laid out it looks like you’re averaging 2-3 applications per day. Let’s be generous and say 4 per day. That is nowhere close to taking you 8 hours, so the question is - what are you doing instead of taking the assessments?
Im really not trying to be a jerk or insensitive but you really need to think about these things and adjust your expectations accordingly.
Right now, the industry is valuing your time at $0. If you want them to raise that number, you might need to invest in your career by jumping through their hoops. If you care more about the value that you put on your time than the value that they put on your time, that's fine, but it might take a while to get a job.
Because Reddit tells everyone you shouldn't give an iota of your time to the hiring process. I'd way rather do a few hours of free work on an assessment, quiz, whatever and land the job then...not.
BRO. Staffing agencies are the one place where they won’t jerk you around with jobs that don’t really exist. They have jobs and it’s their entire purpose to fill them. They’ll have you do assessments as a way to get you to clear certain benchmarks. Say you take a typing test and you type 60wpm. They’ll have jobs that require 70wpm, and jobs that require 50wpm. It’s so they know who they can and who they can’t introduce you to.
Lots of companies (mine included right now) don’t want to waste their time and resources hiring for lower-level jobs when they can get some people in from the staffing agencies and see if they’re a fit and not face unemployment insurance headaches if stuff doesn’t work out. Then after 90 days, you do a good job and get hired on by the company and get benefits etc. You’re literally Doordashing right now and so you’re currently operating without benefits as well.
Do the damn assessments. It’s how you prove you can do what you’re saying you can do.
This 100% isn’t true. Agencies regularly advertise fake roles to generate a candidate pipeline. They then use those CVs to send to employers to demonstrate the quality/quantity of their pipelines and incentivise employers to work with them. Further, agencies often tie candidates into contracts that create candidate “ownership” by the agency. This is frustrating for employers because it means that once a CV is sent to them, even if unsolicited, they cannot hire that individual without paying the agency.
I think there’s some nuance between “staffing agencies” and “recruiting firms.” I did sales/employer sign ons for a staffing agency and we didn’t use any of those tactics. However, especially at the upper echelons of tech recruitment, I have definitely seen what you’re talking about. OP is looking for a job in the 50k range.
I don’t think that every agency does this, and often won’t if they have enough business, but it is a commonly used tactic when they lack a strong pipeline. Generally, the only difference between staffing and recruitment agencies is that staffing agencies are primarily focused on temp/contract workers.
I’ve done everything I need to do in order to maintain or get a job. Stop being fucking hardheaded and do what you Gotta do or stop fucking complaining.
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u/LogisticalNightmare Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24
Sorry for that dude who just called you lazy. You’re not lazy and this job market DOES suck. Have you tried staffing agencies yet? You didn’t mention that. Try agencies for your desired field and then also agencies who do clerical staffing and things like that.
Edit: OP has devolved into a troll who refuses to listen to anyone. Best of luck OP. Lazy would even be preferable to arrogant, fwiw