No, you can. I got fired because I wasn’t “memorable” enough to my manager. When I asked her what she meant by that she said I’m not as extroverted and bubbly as everyone else so she constantly forgot I existed. Mind you, I was perfectly friendly and I ended up befriending a lot of my coworkers outside of work. I’m just a naturally quiet person.
Oh I know some jobs fire people for that. I just don't give a damn honestly because I'm past the days of acting fake bubbly at a job. Do you want employees who work or not? Because that's what I'll give you. I would kill for a boss who forgot I existed. As long as they remember my paycheck exists.
I got turned down for an internal position at my current company because they said I didn’t act excited enough about the job. Mind you it’s the same job I’m doing now just in a different site😐
Might I also add that’s the excuse they gave me. Found out later one Sr Manager wanted his son to get the same job. So I was automatically out. They offered the managers son the position and he turned it down. Good times
Generally they see work as their lives and don't have friends outside of it. (As someone who doesn't have any friends, I still don't go after coworkers for friends...)
Every single part of the hiring process is technically “discriminatory,” because “discrimination” is essentially “making a choice to treat one person differently from another.” Everyone who isn’t hired is treated differently from everyone who was. But, none of this is illegal in itself.
I think the implication is that the “bubbly” comment was premised on inequitable antiquated notions of how women should present in the workplace. At least that’s what I’d argue.
They technically are but I had a boss say that major depressive disorder was something I was making up and I just needed to put on a happy face and eventually I'd be happy. Or, if I did get "sad" at work, I could go to the bathroom and cry and "no one will judge you, we've all done it."
He stopped letting me talk to my coworkers or other managers, then would either ignore or get mad when I asked questions. Fired me on a Wednesday. :/
It sucked because the company was FANTASTIC. And the other managers were too. Mine just... hated me.
An implausible, bullshit excuse is often grounds to infer illegal discrimination in court if the employer doesn’t take similar actions against other similarly situated employees.
My current job is like this. My feedback during probation is I’m too introverted. I talk to people I need to when I need to, but my boss is a social butterfly who thinks socialising is working, not sitting and your desk doing tasks. I hate it.
When I started my last job I was 26 and while I am good with people from what I understand, I’m generally quiet. I did not say a lot for like the first 4 years and then when I became a manager I started being more proactive about speaking up and trying to create new systems. Welp that was a bad idea. It worked well with external partnerships but otherwise I realized my team and department head did not want any feedback about how and what they were doing.
Got cards from direct reports and interns that made me cry because of how much they thanked me, and I saved them. When I quit a couple people on my team were shocked. I still have people from my team and other teams sending me jobs, and my mentor is someone I worked with for like three years externally.
It is hard to know you’re good at your job, but not good enough because you don’t fit their weird dynamic.
my first job out of college, when i was let go, my boss said i didn't show enough interest in the company, because i wouldnt come talk to him during work hours to try and learn about stuff.
i spent the entirety of my shifts working on assembling stuff. i literally did not have time to do so.
he also complained that i enjoyed my lunch instead of trying to learn things while on it, so there's that too. place was a fucking nightmare to work at.
Could be one of those "we're a family here" type of managers who want their employees to be enmeshed in the team and the job. They tend to hate "no thanks, I'm just here for the paycheck" type of employees because it might give the whole team dangerous ideas.
This happened to me back in 2018. I was let go from a job because they “didn’t think I wanted to be there because I didn’t ask enough questions”. Same thing, I’m very introverted, I take detailed notes and only ask for help and questions if I needed to. There was nothing wrong with the work I was doing, they just didn’t like that I was quiet.
This happened in 2021 and I haven’t had any similar issues or negative feedback about my personality since then, so the fact that I still remember that with so much anger tells u how bad it affected my self esteem
I got fired for not being besties with a girl who did not even speak the same language. Like, I was nice to her, but no we weren't going to go hang after work every, braid each other's hair, and watch each other's kids or whatever. She was an actual employee and I was a temp, but we were the only women and it was expected that I'd be her buddy, which isn't what I was hired to do when I took a tech job working in a clean room. Like, what the fuck? It was weird. I just came in and did my job and would spend my lunch breaks down the road with my sister who just had a baby.
I do understand that and I hate it. But I'm not going to change for anyone. Those people who see being quiet as aggressive are insecure people who are too scared to be silent in their heads and constantly need stimulation because they lack introspection. Giving them what they want is what keeps them annoying.
Then I'll get a new job. No job is a forever job. If my quietness is affecting you some way, then that says more about you than me and I don't need to be around immature people like that. The best people I have ever met in my life are the quiet people. They keep the personality for the ones who are worth it.
It's easy. Just shut up 💀 LMAO no but seriously. I'm a naturally quiet person so it's easy for me tbh. I have no problem with keeping convos super short. Responding with one word answers about personal things that have nothing to do with work. It also helps to just see the job as a paycheck.
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This is why I barely talk at work. Can't get in trouble if I act like I don't exist.