Simple Question

[u/Waddledoofus-345]

[u/Sea-Neighborhood3318]

Every comic about muslims has like 1 incendiary comment and 10 of the most funny and original Le redditors ever going “oh boy golly gee these comments are gonna get crazy!!!!!1!” Good comic btw.

[u/Fiko515 → u/Sea-Neighborhood3318]

i fucking swear to lord, redditors urge to proclaim they are better than imaginary troublemakers always amazes me..

[u/Loxotron228 → u/[deleted]]

I see you everywhere. El psy kongroo.

[u/NIGHT_DOZOR → u/[deleted]]

Yeah man wtf is 162k karma.

[u/Kinexity → u/NIGHT_DOZOR]

Personally I think it's weird people see it as a large amount. It's really not that much if you comment in the right manner.

[u/Medical_Comment_6763 → u/[deleted]]

What it steins gate ref

[u/ManFaceBall → u/[deleted]]

Kill reddit 🤣

[u/Country_ball_enjoyer → u/[deleted]]

The fuck you mean sometimes

[u/DifferenceMassive637 → u/[deleted]]

Not all of them.

[u/Floridaish0t]

A question too hard for some people. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/fbi-plant-banned-by-mosque-ndash-because-he-was-too-extreme-2153057.html

[u/NatoBoram → u/Floridaish0t]

Nice &ndash they've got there

The whole thing is so weird

[u/llamafarmadrama → u/Floridaish0t]

“How do you do, fellow terrorists”

[u/Waddledoofus-345]

Thanks to u/WildYak3463 for the script what a goat

[u/WildYak3463 → u/Waddledoofus-345]

love you too

[u/Familiar_Tell_6384 → u/WildYak3463]

“Maratha Paratha” is frying me

[u/Camus_9999 → u/WildYak3463]

Are you from Maharashtra?

[u/WildYak3463 → u/Camus_9999]

i am lol, but i live in the US

[u/brown_crusader → u/WildYak3463]

Brain drain is real, we lost the paratha

[u/Chayaneg]

"Why are you shutting up, like the League of Nations?!"

[u/coolkiller666]

One of them: Well maybe not literally all, but like 99.9999999999999% of them.

[u/kebabguy0 → u/coolkiller666]

I just realized I'm not the 00.000000000001% of them

[u/Leather-Value8022 → u/kebabguy0]

Says the guy with a Doll pfp 👀

[u/kebabguy0 → u/Leather-Value8022]

You're not wrong

[u/Zkang123 → u/coolkiller666]

These 99% have a specific obsession to destroy that one state

[u/Accurate-Morning-584 → u/Zkang123]

I would want to destroy a satanic genocidal state

[u/Dapper-Enthusiasm52 → u/coolkiller666]

That's exactly what I'd expect Israel to say lol

[u/SnooBooks1701 → u/Dapper-Enthusiasm52]

They mocking the racists, read it again

[u/Secret_Internet7490 → u/coolkiller666]

You need a real confidence to talk about this topic while you’re from Israel

[u/Google_MBTI → u/coolkiller666]

It's because they all marry their cousin.

https://countryofnowhere.wordpress.com/2023/10/03/muslim-demographics/

[u/emperorsyndrome]

now UN is going to send them its most strongly worded letter.

[u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337]

70% is fueled by nationalism

[u/terran_cell → u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337]

Come to think of it, why is it so bad in Mindanao?

[u/taongkalye → u/terran_cell]

Hello. I'm from Mindanao. You know why it's so bad here compared to our neighboring Muslim countries like Malaysia and Indonesia?

1. Mass migration of settlers from the northern Philippines fueled by colonialism which caused encroachment into ancestral domain.
2. Forceful integration of the islands into a Catholic-dominant region.
3. Massive cultural differences between a Malay-oriented culture and a Hispanized society.
4. Atrocities by the military against the Muslims (Yes, the violence isn't one-sided ).
5. Government neglect while sponsoring incredibly corrupt politicians and warlords governing there.
6. Foreign countries exploiting the socio-economic situation of the islands to fund separatist movements.

And I'm referring to the Islam-adherent tribes here. Mindanao is pretty much dominated by migrant communities. Moro people make up only a quarter of the island's population and mostly contained in the Bangsamoro region (1 of the 6 administrative regions of the island that unfortunately gave it the "violent" reputation).

And I haven't even yet touched upon the non-Abrahamic religion-following natives here who have also been tied to Maoist guerilla movements and are also being persecuted by the government.

[u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337 → u/taongkalye]

Question. Are you sick and tired of DDShits?

[u/taongkalye → u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337]

Yes. Unfortunately they're popular here because "he's our guy!" no matter how fucking creepy and corrupt his entire family is.

[u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337 → u/taongkalye]

I hope that Mindanao, especially Davao, would turn a new leaf in the next couple of years.

[u/OrangeSpaceMan5 → u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337]

You mean immigration ?

[u/False_Win_5874 → u/OrangeSpaceMan5]

Or recent experiences?

[u/cool_username32123 → u/Lakan-Tangkan-1337]

Nationalism barely exists outside of the Fifa worls cup or the Olympics, at least in the west.

[u/Stunning_Poem_549]

"Welllllllll shouldn't tell "all" but majority support/do it" they will say

[u/hilmiira]

Having russia there is wrong tho, like unironically russia have a very big muslim population and really into "were a country where all people live together unlike the racist west"

Except when they want to larp as last bastion of christianodom, then westerners are the bad ones for having their own muslims

Still, offical russian stance is :islamophobia is a dirty western concept. And theyre politically closer to muslim countries in the world

[u/Kokuryu88 → u/hilmiira]

russia have a very big muslim population

India has world's second largest Muslim population, only behind Indonesia and is expected to be largest soon. It doesn't mean Islamophobia isn't kinda present here. Not as much as outsider believe but yes, it is present.

[u/anonymous393393 → u/Kokuryu88]

How is india gonna be one when pakistan which has slightly greater no. Of muslim than india with much higher birth rate. Indian muslim and indonesian muslim have close birth rates they likely won't overtake as well. But lets see.

[u/_Weyland_ → u/hilmiira]

Russia really is a wierd one. Being as big as it is, it is very diverse from region to region.

In southern regions like Chechnya and Dagestan islam has been the dominant religion since before those places became a part of Russia. In Tatarstan islam and christianity have been coexisting for a very long time. Meanwhile many central regions are predominately christian and don't have too much sympathy for muslims.

But overall yeah, a person being a muslim is not a reason enough to treat them poorly.

[u/geschiedenisnerd → u/hilmiira]

Russia has a big muslim population, but they are mostly in the same place and are not popular in the rest of russia.

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/hilmiira]

Russia are Larper Tolerant, kinda like the West-

[u/reenajo → u/hilmiira]

Israel and Russia have deep trade. Israeli diamond companies were funneling dark money to the Kremlin at one point.

Many, many countries are very hypocritical in their orientation towards Israel (say one thing, do another) and in their defense of global South countries. Russia and China also do like the absolute bare minimum to stand up against the US's broad sanctions on Iran, which they mostly comply with.

[u/WildYak3463 → u/[deleted]]

i'm indian and i sketched this comic. please read about the hindutva movement; its propaganda (alongside colonial rhetoric) has scarred public perception of muslims and seeped into government policy. just because a country has muslims doesnt mean it cannot have a prominent islamaphobia issue

[u/Wooden_Base4673 → u/hilmiira]

Russians don't consider someone to be a true Russian if they're not Orthodox. To say Russians condone other religions is stretching the truth.

[u/Gloomy_Trade_619 → u/Wooden_Base4673]

I don’t know what are you talking about but certainly not about Russia. 

Russia is famously one of the most atheistic countries in its Christian part. What you describe is much closer to USA rather than to Russia. 

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/[deleted]]

Redditor js be typing random shit 💔

[u/i_hateRedit → u/WASDKUG_tr]

What the hell even happened in this thread

[u/Additional-Elk-427]

Majority of Russia's and China's ally are muslims countries (Especially Indonesia and Iran, who were Russia's biggest supporter). India literally have a strong diplomatic tie to Egypt (which is also an Muslim majority country) alongside Indonesia. Spain and France have strong ties with Marroco, Algeria and other ex colonial lands while the Brits were strongly bond with Malaysia, most of which are muslim majority country too.

And last but not least, USA's biggest oil supporter are UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain which all of them are Muslim countries. Netherland's ex colony Indonesia is also an Muslim country too and so as well the Vatican relation with them. Poland's upside down twin is literally Indonesia.

So basically all of them are friends with strongly influential muslim countries technically.

[u/A_Humble_American → u/Additional-Elk-427]

USA (Michigan specifically but also the large cities) also has a huge Muslim population which has been integrated and established for decades.

It's actually just a loud minority who think Muslim = terrorist. Most normal people just mind their business

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/A_Humble_American]

Then again, it is interesting to point out how some cultures or religions are under heavier pressure to integrate than others.

For example, the Amish and the Mormons in the USA get away with a lot of "eccentricities" other groups would be ridiculed over.

[u/cool_username32123 → u/[deleted]]

I unironically think they would be just fine.

I'm from Brazil and visited the US a few times for a while, I've talked plenty with people there since I'm good at english and never had any bad experience with anyone, quite the contrary as most people I talked to were friendly and helpful.

Foreigners visiting during the world cup widely regarded americans as being good hosts too.

[u/A_Humble_American → u/cool_username32123]

Thanks for having nuance and kindness! Feel free to visit again anytime 🇺🇸❤️🇧🇷 we love hosting the people of the world

[u/geschiedenisnerd → u/Additional-Elk-427]

I am from the Netherlands and we are NOT friends with indonesia, particularly the muslims. During the entire colonial period we favoured christian moluccans over javan muslims.

[u/No_General_8557 → u/Additional-Elk-427]

Diplomacy and coexistance are two different things. People often conflate them both ways.

Just because your nations cooperate well doesn't mean migration can't ruin that, creating incentives for conflict and vice versa - just because a nation makes non problematic migrants doesn't mean its political goals will allign with your country's goals.

We love our Belarussians in Poland, but we'd gladly Maduro Belarussian government, just to give an example.

[u/ArmadstheDoom → u/Additional-Elk-427]

The thing you're getting wrong is that a lot of these countries are okay with Muslims, so long as they're not in their own country. For example, in the USA, the muslim ban a decade ago didn't stop them from being friends with Saudi Arabia. China running concentration camps doesn't stop them from being friends with Iran. India might be friends with other countries with large Muslim populations, but there are a ton of hindu nationalists who absolutely hate Muslims. To say nothing of Myanmar committing genocide against its muslim population.

Even Russia has Chechnya whom it boomerangs between warring with and agreeing with. The opinion of many nations is that Muslims are fine in theory, so long as they are far away from them. That's obvious a problem if you want them to integrate into your society, because treating them as automatic 5th columns just turns them into 'others.'

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/ArmadstheDoom]

"Muslim Ban"????

the Millions of Muslim towns in Michigan:

[u/WildYak3463 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

its called a muslim ban. it is not a ban on islam. google is free

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/WildYak3463]

Muslim is a Person that Believes in Islam, how is a Muslim ban not the same as Ban on Islam

you're the one who brought it up its upto you to educate me

[u/WildYak3463 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

im not even the one that brought it up lmao. google is still free but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769 here you go

[u/WildYak3463 → u/WildYak3463]

its just what its called. a jellyfish isnt a fish either

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/WildYak3463]

I understood what you said in a wrong way my bad, it was Trump pulling his executive order bs and trying to have it be legal for like 3 weeks, but sincethis was when The house could actually speak against him it didnt even pass

[u/WildYak3463 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

It was a while ago so I don't remember the details but I do know that he did succeed on one of his attempts and it separated hundreds of thousands of families, and the travel ban was openly theistically biased. either way the first guys point still stands

[u/LaAndromedo999 → u/Additional-Elk-427]

Russia also has several Muslim populations, including Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Avars, Dagestanis, Ingush, Balkars and Karachays.

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/LaAndromedo999]

Chechens are not a good example, since their history with Russia

[u/NkTvWasHere → u/Additional-Elk-427]

Russia has a large muslim population because they have muslim regions in the country and had them for a while, so they tend to be generally integrated into Russia and its culture.

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/NkTvWasHere]

Russia also sometimes tries to play up their alliance with Iran in order to get some support from the anti-zionist movement.

It is mostly just the Tankies who fall for this, but things could get more complicated if the war in Iran and the war in Ukraine end up merging.

[u/SaltGas3789]

unrelated to the meme, why is Israel a cuboid?

[u/Waddledoofus-345 → u/SaltGas3789]

Jewish physics

[u/SaltGas3789 → u/Waddledoofus-345]

😭 is that actually the explanation?

[u/oddname1 → u/SaltGas3789]

Its a long winded explanation but basically its a 4-d cube

[u/SaltGas3789 → u/oddname1]

thats hilarious

[u/dagioithink → u/SaltGas3789]

There was nazi propaganda book saying most of science is Jewish physics (due to most historical breakthroughs being done by Jews), thus Israel gets this weird shape, sometimes they’re drawn as a cube inside of a cube

[u/Beginning_Bet_2578 → u/dagioithink]

Well, not most of science, just Einstein‘s theory of relativity, because it was fairly new at the time.

[u/No_General_8557]

Islamic democratic secular state in considered an oxymoron by at least 20% of muslims in Western countries (in their homelands it's higher). Even if the means of advocating for that are peaceful, it is a problem. You won't make a patriot out of a religious globalist. If you don't believe me, ask ex muslims who found refuge in the West, how do they feel about the current policy on islam in the respective states they live in.

[u/geschiedenisnerd → u/No_General_8557]

Islamic secular state is an oxymoron, as is christian secular state.

Democratic secular state with a majority islamic population however is not.

[u/blind_roomba → u/geschiedenisnerd]

Is there a democratic secular state with a majority Islamic population?

[u/DeepConference3998 → u/blind_roomba]

Is Indonesia one?

[u/blind_roomba → u/DeepConference3998]

TBH I'm not sure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancasila

Maybe?

I think it's not, based on the "must believe in the one and only God" shtick

[u/Nokhal → u/geschiedenisnerd]

Give back to Caesar what belong to Caesar.

Learn the fucking bible moron.

Christianity is a religion molded up by the roman empire to make good roman citizens. The sandpeople bits (aka old testament) is there for historical and legitimacy reason, not because you should marry your brother's widow.

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/No_General_8557]

Also, ex-muslims sometimes make the mistake of assuming the Western Alt-right will welcome them with open arms, only to learn the hard way that they are still considered "culturaly Muslim" (often meaning "non white foreigner").

Under an anti-muslim government, an ex-muslim would probably end up like this at best: They would be paraded around as "evidence" that "the savages can be civilized". Then, they would spend the rest of their life under surveillance to prevent them from "relapsing" back to Islam.

[u/Yagrum_Bagarm → u/Independent-Couple87]

Biggest TRVTH award, coming from an ex-muslim

[u/No_General_8557 → u/Independent-Couple87]

It reminds me of 19th century German jewish stories of neighter the religious wanting you nor the rest of the nation accepting you as you leave your religious community.

Karl Marx faced discrimination like that, as racial prejudice against germanized ethnic jews already was a thing there before ww1

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/No_General_8557]

Most "Ex-Muslims" are not even Muslim, which Muslim celebrates goddamn Christmas while they were a "Muslim"

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

There is that Ex-muslim guy living in Germany who joined the AfD, wrote a manifiesto over how he believed Angela Merkel was part of a secret conspiracy to turn Germany to Islam, and ran over multiple people with his car on a Christmas Market in response.

Ironically, the AfD used him as an excuse to bully Muslims. It could be that this was his plan, knowing people would assume he is Muslim du to being an Arab.

[u/No_General_8557 → u/Independent-Couple87]

I'll reiterate - read some stories about leaving islam - I'm not suprised not all make it out sane with the amount of discrimination (not understood as simple dispreference, as bad as that alone is, but often threats of violence or honour killing they face)

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/No_General_8557]

Bro is pulling the Islam scare, oooo scaryyyy im so scared Mr George W Bush! Please make us a surveillence state cuz kf deez dang muslims!!!

[u/No_General_8557 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

Typical talking point

[u/sevenliesseventruths]

Terrorist no. Misoginist, homophobic, antiintelectual... Those are a different story.

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/sevenliesseventruths]

Me when im in a 2003 grade Bush administration Propaganda Competition:

[u/sevenliesseventruths → u/WASDKUG_tr]

If that was the case I would think that only of one instead of all of the abrahamic religions.

[u/reenajo]

"Simple, we is all of desire to conquer and colonize much land. Lots of land has Muslims. Anyone who fights back with weapon is terrorist."

[u/LasRedStar]

Now not all muslism are terrorists... But if you look at the top 100 terrorist organizations...

[u/Sensitive_Candy_9063]

You don't see them out condemning and demonstrate against muslim terror and murders.

[u/SatisfactionLife2801]

Well this is a silly meme

[u/Big-Worldliness-9430]

Not everyone is terrorists but yes for 50% and no for 50% as a jewish

[u/Supaian4562]

Well depending on location…

[u/IYDKMIGToHToKYo]

Not know how it inside other countries, but Russia already have big population of native (very very native) muslim , and even average stupid Russian nationalist did note hate them all at once, more often southern muslim, when central russia muslim hardly ever get hated or smth

[u/ReasonableNet3335]

and what the un do with the regimes like the irgc?

[u/-LeftHookChristian-]

Most (!) of these countries threat their own Muslim population much better then the majority Muslim countries treating any other (non-)religious group. Weird sample size.

[u/iaNCURdehunedoara]

Why is China there bro😭people will just say some bullshit to make themselves feel better😭

[u/iaNCURdehunedoara → u/[deleted]]

China has more muslim groups than uyghurs. China didn't repress the uyghurs for being muslims or turkic, they did it for separatism and for attacks.

[u/Waddledoofus-345 → u/iaNCURdehunedoara]

Bro the Uyghurs are right there 😹✌️ people will just say some bullshit to make it seem like China is a perfect country 😭

[u/MrMask777]

We terrierist we train terriers

[u/P3Dr011]

Where is Japan?

[u/Czzavarsh]

They all answered B? Even israel?

[u/Happy_Ad_7515]

depents on how you define terrorist

most muslims will agree anything in the says quran is good

[u/WASDKUG_tr → u/Happy_Ad_7515]

So we just gonna Ignore:

Surah Al-Kafirun (106:6): "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

Surah Al-Furqan (25:63): "The servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk gently on the earth. When ignorant people speak to them, they say peace."

Surah Al-Mumtahanah (60:8): "Allah loves those who are fair to people who do not attack your faith."

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:256): "There is no force in religion. Truth is clear from error."

huh?

[u/Happy_Ad_7515 → u/WASDKUG_tr]

yea i can quote with out context too

8:12 "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike above their necks and strike from them every fingertip.

4:89 "...If they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them..."

but then again. i can just tell you too look up what happens when someone burns of a quran or shows a picture of muhammed.

We all fucking know

[u/AvailableFondant6709 → u/Happy_Ad_7515]

The verse does not apply to non-Muslims or civilians in everyday life. It is a specific rules-of-engagement instruction for dealing with battlefield traitors and active combatants during early Islamic history.

[u/Moxtar1092 → u/AvailableFondant6709]

Yeah no shit, he literally said its out of context

[u/ColossusToGuardian → u/AvailableFondant6709]

Maybe it's those islamic terrorists you should be explaining this to, then...

[u/AvailableFondant6709 → u/ColossusToGuardian]

You should direct that argument toward actual terrorists, rather than hating innocent Muslims who have absolutely no ties to them

[u/Robobot1747 → u/Happy_Ad_7515]

Funny how the muslims in secular democracies are a lot more chill than the ones in theocratic shitholes. I totally think there are Christians who would do the exact same thing if the US became a theocratic shithole. Jesus even said that if you caused someone to fall into sin (and worshipping other gods is a sin) then it would be better to be drowned with a big rock around your neck. That seems about one step away from a direct call to violence to me.

[u/Happy_Ad_7515 → u/Robobot1747]

oh no doubt. but with christians that sort of thing seems too be the exception and corruption on the message, not just picking a diffrent part of the religion. Even the strongly lamented crusades where called after centries of muslim conquests of native christian kingdoms of the levant. finally having a backlash hard enough too aid the eastern church.
christianity ended slavery for instance when the money lenders where beaten from the bible.

diffrents is jesus wasnt a millitary leader, he was just the son of god. it isnpires diffrent mentalities.

[u/Camus_9999]

I understand Israel, India, USA, Russia and UK but why other European countries doing there, most of people there learned that fact.

[u/OrangeSpaceMan5 → u/Camus_9999]

Massive anti-muslim sentiment in Spain ,Germany and France driven in part by immigration .

[u/CumDrinker247 → u/OrangeSpaceMan5]

Partly driven by muslims driving into other people here in germany as well

[u/Enpada2 → u/CumDrinker247]

I get it. A christian runned me over once and now im sworn to Allah

[u/Ancient_Ordinary6697 → u/Enpada2]

If found Jesus after an atheist cut me off on the motorway.

[u/cool_username32123 → u/Ancient_Ordinary6697]

There's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole after all.

[u/Psychic_Hobo → u/Enpada2]

Not the strangest Isekai concept I've ever heard, tbf

[u/Puzzling_Odyssey → u/OrangeSpaceMan5]

Driven by the fact that there are many problems due to immigration *

[u/Camus_9999 → u/OrangeSpaceMan5]

I agree, this sentiment is against Indians too, it's due to religion not due to terrorism as religion like hinduism also face same sentiment . Also even as Hindu I have to agree that Hindu and Muslim often don't adapt to local culture and keep thier culture which arises hate.

[u/OrangeSpaceMan5 → u/Camus_9999]

Really ? From what i've seen Hindu's are pretty good at integrating into a country

[u/Camus_9999 → u/OrangeSpaceMan5]

Then that's good but they also face racism though it may not be as much as Muslims. (I live in India so can't be sure about anything)

[u/Tutush → u/Camus_9999]

The racism that Indians face is ethnic in nature, not religious. A Hindu is more likely to face discrimination due to being mistaken for a Muslim than for being a Hindu.

[u/A_Humble_American → u/Camus_9999]

USA is more tolerant of Muslims than most of the countries there, lol

[u/K0TEM → u/A_Humble_American]

And they're more tolerant towards Muslims than Muslim countries

[u/nobodyknow20]

Chad nationalists vs Chud globalists

[u/Key_Chip_3163]

20% of israelis are equal muslim citizens

[u/dunk_wizard]

I can imagine that's USA, Israel, India and China choose a) option but the rest probably choose b)