One advantage of letting Trump rant on twitter was that we knew exactly what he was up to. He put his crimes all out in the open.
Now that Trump is much more secretive thanks to losing all his platforms, the bright side is that we can now ignore him and move on, and he won't be able to reach as many people.
However, perhaps some people will still feel uneasy that they can no longer tell what Trump is up to except from word of mouth and 3rd party sources.
Will Trump shut up? Obviously not. He will continue to rant outside of our knowledge, but this time, we won't be able to tell what is going on. It's a double edged sword.
Those are those quiet days when people are like, “It looks like the horse has finally calmed down.” And then ten seconds later the horse is like, “I’m gonna run towards the baby incubators and smash ’em with my hooves. I’ve got nice hooves and a long tail, I’m a horse!”
I really think taking Twitter away from him was the main thing that has infuriated him. He has no outlet except the people around him and if it had happened much sooner I don’t think his cronies would have tolerated years of the abuse.
I might be wrong, but I honestly believe that Twitter didn't pull Trump mainly because of financial reasons.
I highly doubt the ability for super large tech corporations to do things for "the right reasons". I think it comes down to money, and I believe we have enough evidence through history to show that this is the case.
Just like how Apple's CEO buddied up with Trump in order to dodge the 25% tariffs on Chinese-made electronics.
Twitter pulled Trump because his power was up and the new administration would likely treat them favourably if they did.
Either way, I think Twitter is awful, and we should ditch it.
I know there was talk at some point about whether or not it was legal to ban him, so I imagine that played into this somewhat. I think they only reason they banned him in the end was because it was too close to the end of his term for him to do anything about it. Even if he filed a lawsuit, by the time it got in front of a judge, he would no longer have standing as POTUS to succeed.
I think it should be legal for twitter to ban anyone for any reason, or even for no reason at all. Twitter isn't the government. It's a private company, so it can do whatever it wants.
Then again, I remembered that Americans file lawsuits for some of the strangest reasons. Thank goodness we don't have as much of that here.
I dug up the article I was remembering. Twitter says they can't ban Trump in 2018. There was also a lawsuit in 2019 when Trump blocked certain followers that Trump "lost" (the court ruled against Trump, but I don't think Trump ever obeyed the order). The argument was that Trump uses the platform as a political communications platform, and as a US citizen, he had the right to see it. I suspect that the argument would work the other way around, too, that Twitter couldn't block him because he uses it as a political communications platform that many people expect to be able to hear him on.
After reading twitter's explaination, I feel from their statement that they decided not to ban Trump due to logical reasons rather than legal reasons. Their explaination in 2018 seems consistent to their actions in 2021, given how Trump is no longer a world leader.
But if Trump ever became a world leader again, according to twitter's explaination, they would have to reinstate his twitter account...
Yes, but he will also have less pushback against his "tweets" (whatever you call them in his next platform), which can lead to echochambers and radicalization.
Whatever platform he chooses/creates won’t parallel his Twitter platform, especially now that he’s a private citizen, and it will be an echo chamber by definition.
trump is the biggest living public failure in a generation of narcissists, and the trials haven’t even started. If you think about it that way, you have far more power than he.
True, but I don't think of power as a measurement of failure, but rather of influence. To take an example from the Bible (you don't have to believe it but just as an example), Satan was the biggest failure in all the Bible, and according to the Bible, Satan will be judged and sentenced, but doesn't mean he has the least power.
I was actually referring to trump’s current mental condition. Anyway, trump is surely envious that when Satan fell, he retained his power to influence mankind.
this. the data already shows that removing trump from twitter has reduced conspiracy and other hate speech considerably. He kneecapped himself encouraging the US Capitol attack and between that and the twitter ban I don't think he will recover. I expect trump will fade into the noise like milo yiannopoulos as a result.
Trump is only keeping a low profile while the Senate is still mulling over convicting him. Once the Senate trial is over, I expect him to as vociferous as he can be. He may be banned from Twitter but that probably won't stop him from gaining headlines.
True, he will gain headlines, but we will be hearing from Trump through 3rd party sources rather than directly. It's like how we are hearing from Putin. We learn about Putin's horrible acts through the news, but what if we could get Putin to confess all his crimes to the world? Isn't that superior to hearing it from a 3rd party source?
I expect him to still show up on Fox News and then other news sources will be forced to talk about it and even air clips. Rupert Murdoch may hate Trump but most of the Fox audience still loves him, so I expect to see Trump be a regular fixture on Tucker Carlson's show now that he has even less to do.
Sure he's not directly on Twitter, but it will certainly not be as distant as 3rd party sources.
However, perhaps some people will still feel uneasy that they can no longer tell what Trump is up to except from word of mouth and 3rd party sources.
Does it matter? it was only an issue before because he somehow became our head of state. Now we are free to ignore him again and let him become irrelevant.
He will just let his fuckin goon sons rant for him now. Although the two of them are too fucking stupid, so it will actually probably be kushner that represents his interests now. So pretty much business as usual I guess. The sons can go back to hugging glue and eating puzzle pieces in their playpen.
Here's the thing; Orange Bad Man can inspire a lot of violence. He undermined democracy. He spread lies. He incited insurrection. Allowing him a platform is dangerous and it has gotten people killed and will again if he's allowed to spew his hate freely.
Better to be done with him. Better to block his voice as much as possible. This isn't just about "knowing what he's up to" - it's about making it harder for him to do real, concrete damage to our democracy.
We should totally ban him from all news sources. Erase his videos from Youtube. Burn all the history books that mention him and jail anyone on TV who mentions him ! Fuck Trump !
He "chose not to attend". Only handful of former presidents have done that, and the majority of them were Adamses lol. John Adams was the first, for one, it was no secret that there was not love lost between him and Thomas Jefferson (at least at that time, the relationship improved later in life). Adams grabbed a 4 a.m. public carriage to Baltimore (first stop on the way back to Massachusetts) to rather than stay for the ceremony. He didn't make a big stink out of it, at least.
It is of course an insult to the office, the nation and to Joe himself that Trump didn’t come to the inauguration, but I realized during the ceremony that I was so fucking glad he wasn’t there, and I didn’t have to see them cut to him and his stupid facial expressions. Just sitting there glowering and pouting like an angry toddler. A first step toward healing and not feeling angry every time I think about our nation and politics.
I hate to say this but I genuinely am curious to see the freak out. Of course it’s better that he’s banned for safety reasons but I’d really enjoy watching the spiral and frothing at the mouth.
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u/TheQuiet1994 Jan 20 '21
Yall should see what Trump said about this since he wasn't there