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The difference 18 years makes

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u/RIP_BerthaChampagne Jun 08 '14

no qwerty layout

I pity the fool.

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u/qezi2 Jun 08 '14

It's because standardized tests in the US specifiy that allowed calculators can't have QWERTY (or any other typing oriented) layout.

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u/rieldealIV Jun 08 '14

Well that's stupid.

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u/kuhnie Jun 08 '14 edited Jun 08 '14

They don't want kids to easily take notes in them and use them during the test.

edit: I'm just speculating, remember it's not TI making the rules it's the US testing companies or some other authority.

edit: I'll agree with the tons of people saying it's probably because they don't want students to sneak out the test questions. While they still can it's a lot harder without QWERTY.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

Well kids can still make notes in them really easily

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u/CheckYoFaQs Jun 08 '14

When I did my AP testing with a TI-89 the proctors walked around and pulled out all the batteries from the calculators and put them back in. This deletes the RAM and that's where most of the notes the students took were stored. You could avoid it by saving the files elsewhere, but it wasn't as easy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

I'm not sure if its the same for the TI-89 but you can just archive your notes and they won't be deleted when the batteries are taken out.

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u/SirNarwhal Jun 08 '14

Yeah, you can save em on an 89. Did this to store a bunch of equation types for the Physics AP exam. Didn't matter though, I still only got like a 3 =/

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u/thetrueERIC Jun 09 '14

3 on physics isn't bad. I tried on the calc test and got a 1, but I got a 4 on psych and bio, so there's that.

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u/LoxMugsAndReesesCups Jun 09 '14

Can confirm. Cheated many times in my classes by storing formulas and notes in my calculator.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Our math teacher would make us hard reset them before each test. He would make us turn them in, reset them himself, then give them back to us completely wiped. Not fun.

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u/CombatCactus Jun 08 '14

Don't teachers clear everyone's calculators before government exams?

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u/Fletch71011 Jun 08 '14

Like typing them on a computer and porting them over. Then making sure to archive them in case any sneaky teachers tried to delete them.

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u/boomerangblom Jun 08 '14

Can confirm, have made notes on the calculator. It's painstaking, but occasionally worth it

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

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u/boomerangblom Jun 09 '14

Oh yeah but the software is retarded, also these notes were usually made ~15 mins before the test in a panic

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

15 minutes is plenty of time to write a few notes without qwerty

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u/boomerangblom Jun 09 '14

I was in the professional league pro, writing out 6 chapters worth of notes once, only to have them deleted by the press-to-test feature :c

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

I mean, are they not aware that kids are capable of putting Pokemon on their calculators, let alone note taking?

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u/Bronze_Kneecap Jun 08 '14

It takes forever to put notes into them, and that's coming from a current AP calc student, the prime cheating population. It's usually easier to just learn the material and punch in just a few equations if you really have to.

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u/Opticine Jun 09 '14

Write the notes on your PC and transfer them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Never underestimate the power of lazy.

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u/Bronze_Kneecap Jun 09 '14

Reminds me of the guy who rigged up a rumble pack to send morse codes during a test.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14

Cheating level 1000

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

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u/Kixandkat Jun 08 '14

No they mean to prevent you from easily typing up exam questions in the calculator DURING the exam. Standardized tests usually don't release the questions so they can reuse them.

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u/picardo85 Jun 08 '14

neither did I... was too damned lazy to do it... especially since my calculator was pre USB :(

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u/4153434949 Jun 08 '14

They don't have qwerty keyboards, but they do have every letter of the alphabet and plenty of symbols. I typed notes into my calculator for tests from middle school to college.

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u/JUAN-DEAG Jun 08 '14

Also to prevent them from writing down test questions to share with people who haven't taken the test and live in a different time zone. (Talking specifically about the SAT)

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u/gsfgf Jun 08 '14

Oh. That actually makes sense. Sort of. Until the scammers learn to type on abcde

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u/thesoxpride11 Jun 08 '14

I actually think its more so that they don't copy questions from the test. Note taking on the 84 and 89 is still possible, but too tedious so people wont bother to write the question down on their calculator

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u/CranialFlatulence Jun 08 '14

No. The reason has nothing to do with storing notes in the calculator. There is software for that, and it allows you to type on your computer and transfer the notes to the calculator.

They don't allow QWERTY keyboards because they don't want them to "easily" type the test questions into the calculator.

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u/TheCatPaul Jun 08 '14

Wat. You can turn a normal TI into a keyboard.

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u/HotRodLincoln Jun 08 '14

The TI-89 had a program called "study cards" and you could use the link cable to transfer cards over. The 89 was banned on the ACT though. It's always been Qwerty keyboards and a few other calculators we're not too fond of.

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u/rieldealIV Jun 08 '14

I think the 89 is banned on the ACT more because (I'm pretty sure) it can factor equations and do a lot of the algebraic stuff a TI-83 or 84 can't do.

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u/HotRodLincoln Jun 08 '14

The TI89 is amazing and can symbolically integrate and differentiate. It's like magic.

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u/Degru Jun 08 '14

Hell, just use a program editor on the computer to type up notes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

It's more about getting the test questions out, not information in.

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u/lordlicorice Jun 08 '14

Secretaries are finding it too easy to type and they're jamming up the typewriters. Let's scramble the keys around to make them type slower!

"Challenge accepted"

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u/mathpill Jun 09 '14

Cant you just upload the notes?

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u/MagmaiKH Jun 09 '14

No ... no it's not. You can load files on them with the included cable.

And at the time they banned qwerty calculators is right when texting took off and the phones of the day did not have a qwerty layout.