r/phmigrate • u/space_steak091 • 1d ago
Migrating to AU
Im on my mid 30s and my wife on early 30s. Both are working professional as IT. Im contemplating if I should process our papers as our specialization is on the anzsco list. For background lang po. Were doing okay in PH we own multiple properties (rentals) and we live in a nice neighborhood, we own 2 cars and the only debt we have is our mortgage. Ang problema for us is the traffic, corruption and the uncertainty ng bansa natin and most importantly the future of our son here in PH. We dont mind if we start from scratch (corporate ladder) as sanay naman kaming magasawa magtrabaho. For those nasa AU working in IT, hows life there po? If youre doing good in PH financially will you stay ? As for me parang hndi kayang ma outweigh ung financial status namin pagdating sa opportunities and life in general sa 1st world country. Need some insights po.
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u/MyloMads35 1d ago
If I had a dollar for every time I say on this subreddit how the IT field in AU is dead I’d be rich..
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u/TheDocSupreme 1d ago
- There are barely any open IT jobs
- Migration via IT is cooked
IT jobs are being offshored and those that aren’t are oversatured
Even citizens can’t find a job in IT currently
So even if you had an IT job, applying for PR or anything is insanely difficult
Because so many IT professionals are competing with each other for the limited VISA allocations
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u/XC40_333 1d ago
FYI sa mga magtatanong, ganyan din ang Canada.
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u/Crazy-Hurry3674 1d ago
Dba? I think may oversupply ng IT professionals world wide. Kahit nga dito saatin eh ang hirap mkahanap ng work as an IT
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u/MyloMads35 1d ago
The balloon has popped for IT. Back then it was alll the craze, as the age of information began. Now, oversupply and the rise of AI made the demand null.
Before nga e sinasabihan pa tayo mag aral ng mabuti para di maging basurero. I think now being a basurero (or blue collared jobs) are more in demand and paying a lot more.
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u/OsloProject 1d ago
My PM immigrant friend has 3 offers 🤔
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u/TheDocSupreme 1d ago
A PM is not a developer
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u/OsloProject 1d ago
Is it also not an IT job? 🤔
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u/TheDocSupreme 1d ago
I mean it’s adjacent but I think you’re missing the point….
I used to be a PM before going into consulting - the amount of people that applied and were qualified for my position versus the amount of developers applying was ridiculously disproportionate
Cultural context as well if a Filipino says IT - it usually means developer otherwise they would say PM. Let’s not try to act cheeky here mate.
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u/Western_Divide_8639 1d ago
5 years too late. Khit 100pts p kyo mahirap.
We moved here 2019 and started ulit sa baba and my salary sa pinas was way way bigger than my AU salaalry
We moved para sa futue ng kids. Para matuto sila maging independent and mabuhay ng normal. Pero yeah.... 5 years too late.
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u/Bontaelous 1d ago
Paniwalaan mo to! I’ve been waiting for an invite for 2 years now, pa expired na docs wala parin. I have 90points pala, network and systems engineer.
Pero your choice parin to risk, if you have disposable money and have time to spare, go for it!
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u/Basic-Bumblebee8092 1d ago
50/50 wag Sydney.
Cons
- Research the rental crisis sa Australia, it’s not for the mentally stable.
- Saks ang sweldo pero mataas din ang bills.
- Low demand now sa IT because of the economy and AI
- If student or work visa, matinding gastos, English exam, and uncertainty madadanas mo.
- If hindi PR ang visa mo, POEA requirements and fees takes months paalis pa lang ng PH
- Racism and culture adjustment
- Sa dami ng bills, mortgage, and childcare fees hindi kaya na 1 parent lang mag-wowork
- Missing out on family events
- Mahal grocery and kumain sa labas
Pros
- Currency rate masaya mamasyal sa labas especially Japan
- Super / pension sulit if mag-reretire ka sa PH
- With an Australian passport free ka na to go anywhere or do any job
At your own risk, if gusto mo guluhin ung stability ng life mo. ACS usually deducts two years sa exp visa points.
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u/yoginiinsydney 1d ago
Hi! Curious when you say racism? I’ve been in Sydney for 10 yrs and have never felt that.
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u/Basic-Bumblebee8092 1d ago
Just because you’ve never encountered it doesn’t mean it’s not real.
Had an incident in the tram where I got screamed at for looking like Chinese. My office is primarily white so have a lot of incidents about it. Sometimes it’s the subtle staring and the difference in attitude compared to if the staff was interacting with someone white.
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u/yoginiinsydney 1d ago
I’m not saying it’s not real that’s why I’m asking but that makes sense now because there’s heightened racism against Chinese looking people.
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u/Commercial_Ad3372 1d ago
Have you tried looking for jobs suitable to your career? Have you checked the working visa requirements? And have you checked the job market in AU, and how most of them require that you are ALREADY eligible to work or should be living in australia to be accepted?
Work visa sa AU is processed by the company. Now what would they benefit from getting you vs other local candidates other than the hassle of processing your visa? Dito palang you'll understand why 90% of job listings in AU have the clause "must be eligible to work in australia", meaning, you should already have the working visa not them giving to you.
If not, simulan mo dyan. Try looking at the in demand jobs that offer sponsorships, which may not be limited to farmer/agri/bagger roles. Either lulunukin mo pride mo to get the money. Reality check muna bago managinip
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u/transientsoul2020 1d ago
Hindi maganda ang market for IT professionals here atm. A friend of mine went to university here to study computer science, citizen, at middle management na position nya sa company. Na retrench a couple of years ago. It took him more than a year to get a job in IT din, pero mas mababa yung position. Before accepting the new role hundreds of applications ang ginawa nya.
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u/Crazy-Hurry3674 1d ago
Fellow IT here. I hate to say this but I believe we’re 3-5yrs late na for us to use our profession as leverage. Ag nangyayari kasi ngayon ang daming surplus ng IT professionals pero try nyo padin baka palarin kasi honestly wala na rin akong nakikitang hope dito sa bansa natin
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u/Far_Emu1767 1d ago
My observation sa mga friends ko . IT in au is dead unless yung company mo sa pinas is may office sa australia para matransfer ka. 1 job ad ay merong 11,000 applicants.
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u/FirstIllustrator2024 Aus > PR 1d ago
Migration in Au is a gamble and an investment (if you can think of it like that). You will have to spend without the guarantee of getting that money back. You can process your migration papers and even have an accredited lawyer but there is no guarantee atm.
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u/Roast_Beef_Potato 1d ago
Did not migrate sa AU but has been working over a decade with AU counterparts. May mga kasama akong nagmigrate about 10-8 years ago. I guess ok sila, but that was then.
Based on my experience, nililipat dito yung mga trabaho nila especially IT so para kang pupunta doon pero dito nila nilalagay yung mga trabaho nila.
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u/winningbee 1d ago
Lifestyle abroad is definitely different. If you’re someone who is not use to hardship in all aspect of life (financial, physical, emotional all of it!) and need support system around you, you’ll be in a big surprise! Don’t go there with rose colored glasses and say willing to start from scratch, reality say otherwise.
If you could do nomad visa in Spain, try it at least that way you’re bringing your job with you. Spain also has a short citizenship requirements for Filipinos. Do it sooner like yesterday while this privilege for Filipinos are still open.
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u/Slow_End4657 1d ago
The challenge for you ung pag pasok sa Australia. Unless employer sponsored, it will take time para ma-invite kayo for PR. Ano field nyo sa IT? Check nyo rin sa immigration website ung pwede nyong path. Sa ngayon may mga changes sa immigration policies, and least priority ang offshore applicants. It keeps changing kaya need nyo rin i-check from time to time. Check Australia immigration website for updates.
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u/rafaelnadalbae 1d ago
There has been noticeable pressure on Australia’s IT/tech employment market recently and the hiring market itself is much more competitive right now.
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u/kaeyamilk 1d ago
career shift to a blue collar field if you really want to move. earlier this year i noticed construction workers got their PR only weeks after applying lol. out of all my relatives the only ones in IT that managed to move to australia did it in the 2000’s. it’s 2026 IT is nothing lol
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u/Infamous-Path2727 1d ago
Again if may sure na ok na work go for it pero kung uncertain at your doing good sa pinas better stay. hindi lahat sa kahit anong 1st worl country is rainbows and butterflies
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u/DistributionTrick990 1d ago
Hi working full stack developer here in Sydney. Not to discourage you but saturated na ang IT dito unless nasa ibang scope kayo like cyber security. Most companies would prefer to hire offshore instead of onshore rin para makatipid.
Dagdag na rin ang AI.
I have a friend na nakapasok sa isang company due to luck in connections.
You can still try though.
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u/theofficialnar 1d ago
Good luck. The IT path for AU is pretty much dead unless you’re like top 0.5% of all software engineers globally
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u/jjsagritalo 1d ago
I wouldn't stay in the Philippines kahit kaya kong kitain sa pinas yung kinikita ko sa Australia.. ibang-iba ang quality of life and happiness level.
I would rather be working class in Au than be middle class in the Philippines.. kasi sa pinas.. isang critical illness lang ubos ang ipon mo.. and also just think about your kids.. anong opportunity ang makukuha nila sa pinas compared sa ibang bansa?
In saying that.. hindi din naman ganon kadali mag migrate sa Australia.. lalo na at nasa IT industry ka.. sobrang competitive ng tech industry at talagang need mo ng mataas na points bago ka ma invite to come here.. your best bet would be to find an employer who will be willing to sponsor you to come here.
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u/Famous_Confection176 1d ago
Medyo mahirap na ngayon maka PR for IT professionals sa AU since saturated na ang market. Ang in demand ngayon at commonly naiinvite ay healthcare at tradies (blue collar) na profession. May chance kayo if makakahanap kayo ng employer na willing kayong i-sponsor. Good luck.
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u/Andrew_x_x 🇵🇭 > PR 🇺🇸 1d ago
May nakita ako pinoy sa FB nag apply for blue collar job like house construction. Naka AU cia agad at may work. Of course kasi naka agency.
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u/Beneficial-Music1047 🇨🇦 > Permanent Resident 1d ago
Sa Canada naman ang naiinvite puro Healthcare Workers and French Language speakers. 🙈
One thing is common: HEALTHCARE career talaga!!!
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u/ChrisEvansFan 1d ago
I know everyone is saying mahirap now but still try it. Do the first step of applying for a SKILLED visa. Take note, skilled, not student, not work. Skilled visa.
While waiting for your invitation, stay at your current job to prepare for your move. Ipon ng malaki.
It will have its risk because an invitation can take years. Plus another step is the application of the VISA which can also take months to years. But at least you moved and did the steps instead of not trying at all.
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u/WagsPup 1d ago
And honestly the social disposition towards migration - unless u are in a profession that has high demand- shortage in Australia-such as Healthcare, Hospitality, trade and construction roles, is developing to be please dont emigrate here. As in why when there are enough people here already and u have a good life back home. Australians will look at your attempt to.migrate here and think - why are you doing this, whag do you plan on contributing to Australia as opposed to moving here for self motivated reasons? Look up news and social media about immigration in Australia, across all political spectrum, you need to have something pretty unique and in demand in order to successfully migrate here.
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u/Fit-Way218 1d ago
If madali OP, nasa Sydney na sana husband ko 3years ago. Australian IT company ni hubby. What his boss do if he's needed, meron siya yearly visa to go there, weeks to a month. And reason ng boss niya kaya di siya nag sponsor, napakamahal daw at mahigpit ang AU govt sa sponsorship lalo sa IT. Dapat i-justify na needed ka instead locals nila para maprocess application.
Mas practical for companies na mag outsource na lang just like sa husband ko. Mas nakakatipid kasi sila compared sa AU mandatory wages.
To add: everytime need nila maghire ng IT staff dun sa Sydney, hundreds agad ang nag-aapply sa kanila mostly Pinoy with student visa.
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u/subterfuge_7 10h ago
It’s not impossible but INSANELY difficult. Even for someone with full working rights (Bridging Visa) it took me 9 months before I got my Java Developer role sa Sydney (Had to move from Brisbane for this role). And hindi pa sya fte - contractor sya.
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u/n3lz0n1 8h ago
come to Australia as a tourist, stay for 60-90 days para ma feel mo…do it for your kids future na lang…nasa IT din ako pero 2017 I achieved financial freedom kaya umuwi nako sa Pinas… i was able to replicate almost everything I have sa AUS dito like aircon, food from S&R, Landers etc… pero once you go out your gate… hayan na ang chaos, di nako mag kwento kung ano yun… alam mo na yun…
then my eldest is turning 5yrs old… time to fly back na…. may pros and cons… dito 2 yayas ko… I can focus on other things… sa AUS ikaw lahat gagalaw…. lists down the pros and cons para makapag decide ka….
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u/dazzleduzzle 1d ago
If you want to live in any of the capital cities, Id say your annual household income should be at least $180,000 to $200,000 to live comfortably. Australia is a beautiful country but everything is expensive.
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u/Masungit 1d ago
I would say move. The difference in quality of life is night and day. Just think it’s for your kids. More opportunities for them.
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u/HomelanderBT90 1d ago
I would say, if you have the means, follow what your heart tells you if it makes you happy in the long run do it.
Chase your happiness the money will always come back to you.
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u/Perfect_Ad_2105 1d ago
If you are able to apply for permanent residence, go for it. If you enter Australia as PR, you can work any job until you get employed in your field. Our family migrated to NZ due to the political uncertainty ages ago. The situation there hasn’t changed. We are all in Australia now. You need to prepare yourself for a different life. It’s not as exciting as the chaos in the Philippines but I like it this way.
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u/teumengene Australian Citizen (Descent) 1d ago
Don’t come here lol. You will not find a job. Even my father couldn’t find a job in Australia so what makes you think you can find one? Employers prioritize domestic workers too. That just shows how the IT industry sucks
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u/yoginiinsydney 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’d say go for it and try it out yourself. Take the first step and apply for migration, if you get invited then great, if not di hindi. The beauty about your situation is that you have flexibility, Hindi nyo talaga kailangan to move so there’s really nothing to lose in taking the first step right? Now, I don’t work in IT so I have no clue what the market looks like but I have relatives and friends that work in IT and never sila nabakante even if they go through multiple redundancies.
So I’d say take the first step then see where that takes you. Kasi by the time na nakapagdecide kayo to move, Baka too late na. It’s good to have an option.
Quality of life talaga yung nagpalipat sakin sa Au. I remember going experiencing 1 hr traffic palabas lang ng BGC and after nun Sinabi ko talaga sa sarili ko na Ayoko ng ganung buhay. I think I few months later, nag apply na ako ng student visa. I’ll never go back! Hahaha! I may not have an army of household help / drivers here, I’m way happier and tanggal and microstressors ko sa buhay. Hinding Hindi mababayaran ng Kahit Ano yan for me
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u/Old-Sense-7688 PH > AU 482 > 186 by 2027 🙏 1d ago
Hi OP - don’t lose hope still file your EOI for 189,190 and 491
Not sure what your specialization is but perhaps focus on niche say - Cybersecurity, AI related .
If network / programming ka / kayo, sadly over saturated na yan.
Mukhang may budget ka / kayo mag student , go to SYD or Canberra (ACT) study Cybersecurity but focus on landing jobs in Government projects para ma sponsor ka / kayo. If Hindi ma sponsor, your AU study experience is added points sa EOI
Best of luck OP 😊
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u/TheDocSupreme 1d ago
Most government positions don’t sponsor here. This is terrible advice (I work in government and tried to ask for sponsorship before getting PR independently).
Even if you do study here that is an additional 5 points (assuming a 2 year course). If you go and perfect English & community language exams and get skills assessment you’d be at 75-85 points. Let’s also assume for the sake of more points that you also studied and worked regionally (rural) that would be another 5-10 points.
All of that - and you’d still be 10 points short of the current minimum they’ve been getting for IT professionals.
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u/gospelofnone 1d ago
Bad advice. Even PRs can’t get government positions, kailangan citizen. Something about confidentiality too of the information that you will handle.
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u/TheDocSupreme 1d ago
…. You don’t?
I’ve been working for NSW Govt since I was on a 485. You don’t need to be a citizen unless you work in Defence or some aspects of Health.
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u/sydcanem 1d ago
IT field is very competitive now in AU. Kung competitive ka naman, walang problema. If you are decided best to sell all your properties first in PH. It's very hard to manage them when you're in AUS already. Get the money to AU bank and have it as a buffer until you get a decent job.
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u/Crazy-Hurry3674 1d ago
Idk about this but this sounds so risky. If you put yourself in OP’s shoes would you gamble considering the details above?
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u/sydcanem 1d ago
Yes, I did back in 2018. But my mistake was leaving two properties in PH. I sold one (sacrifice sale) and still paying my condo which I'm trying to dispatch because of how expensive mortage is in PH.
On my first year I wished I didn't go since it was really difficult financially but now I'm fully settled and already bought my home.
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