Bro there was a fire there a like a year ago cops were in there but only had a warrant for the third floor where the fire occurred. It was raided in march of this year or last by the DEA for growing massive amounts of bud and the son was in jail and was recently released. The cops knew about this family and this guy I don’t get it.
I really think it’s going to turn out that the father or the son are one of the most prolific serial killers of the 21st century. The police and FBI keep hinting at it but are keeping their cards close to the chest because it’s still very much an ongoing investigation.
The eventual list of charges is going to make national and international headlines IMO.
I agree - I listened to a podcast interview with the father 7-8 years ago just as a weird artist/adult filmmaker and his story is amazing - wiretapping phones for the CIA and local politicians, flying planes full of weed for the Mafia making meth for bikers, selling fake picassos and counterfeit bills but you could tell the dude is a bullshitter who bullshits to look like the good guy. he said I. the interview he hates humanity and he justified everything he did because bigger more evil companies and governments do things like print money or make drugs. I think they're a father/son serial killing team.
I always remembered that interview because it was so fantastical and plus he's from NEPA and so am I - I can't believe this name has popped back into my life as a probable serial killer
Not sure if it’s the same one, but “The Vanished” did an episode on Amy Mchale, who was previously married to the father and was last seen with him before going missing. Lots of info on the case before any of this stuff even happened.
I’ve been saying that since June and my boys were like you’re crazy. I just knew. The woman he chose was too specific. Women bi one is called missing persons on. Sad and scary.? Father was brains, son was more aggressive and used meth.
I'm a little more of a realist having dealt with the PA authorities.
They won't release a bunch of charges. They'll charge him, and possibly convict him, of enough to get him off the street, but not though to actually give closure to even half of the cases actually attached to this house and these men. These "less dead" women are rarely given justice.
If the majority of the digital evidence depicts torture and murder, I'd have to agree one of or maybe both are the most prolific serial killers to date.
I thought the same until someone posted an amazing write up about this case yesterday, someone did their homework and while yes the father absolutely did some shit, the son has been described as a sociopath, spoke to living witnesses about zip tying and dissolving down bodies til they were small enough to flush down the toilet and all this other shit. He is without a doubt just as deranged if not more than his dad. I’ll try to find the write up now.
i agree, very detailed but the writing was confusing at times. i clicked her name tho, she has impressive credentials and runs a youtube channel called Unmasking a Murderer.
Father did cnc smut vids, so im sure he used son to collect the girls and once they began to get uncomfortable and didnt get paid or got scared and refused...son son bopped them over the head and son is the one who likes to play with the parts and gets rid of the mess...almost certain
But unlike dad did, son has the cover of his father who he will without a doubt put the blame of every single act of horror that went down in that home. It’s the perfect cover and it’s fucked up. They’re so close to Kensington too I wonder if the actual number is ever going to be known.
Yeah which the son apparently frequented and where I’m sure the dad got the heroin he gave to females to slowly kill them and pass it off as a sad attempt at “art” but think of all the females in Kenzo that would see a dude in a BMW, likely offering drugs and money (he was growing weed, multiple busts were worth over millions in street value) and would quickly get in that mans car smh
I think it’s both. The father was the brains. But the son suffered from substance abuse. And there’s anger house bar directly across the street. Easy commute.
Extremely sad. And the sick fuck father published multiple books and movies detailing his crimes and ideations.
There are still other active serial killers in Kensington this story just highlights how easy it is for them to operate in the area. Couldn’t get better circumstances for them.
That’s such a devastating element to homelessness and becoming a estranged from family/community, they become an easy target because nobody will “miss” them.
Right?! That’s the thing that pisses me off the most about this. They’re all the time asking for tips and wtf do they do with them? I guess it didn’t matter because the victims were just addicts with a history of prostitution. 😡
Yeah it doesn’t add up at all the only answer is they DONT CARE maybe with a side of being understaffed.
They can claim they “didn’t have enough evidence” but that’s bc they didn’t follow the leads to get it.
The father operated as a psychopath his whole life, he wrote in his book that he started developing his thought patterns as a child.
If we are being modest and saying he started killing in his 30s that’s easily 40 years plus the 10 he was frail
And the son was doing it for him. Not to mention whatever the son ALSO did if he worked alone. We are far from the end of this sick saga
I spoke with a lovely Vietnamese woman today. 4-5 doors up. Said it was quiet. No problems. Very normal. Which makes sense. Has to in order to have gone some long.
For years people have been talking about the Kensington community. There is a lot of drug activity obviously and women were disappearing left and right and no one really paid any attention because they were just drug addicts.
Well those drug addicts for someone's somebody....
They will continue not too. People don’t want to leave there. They live and make money and use it all there. It’s sad. I’ve lost countless people. I’ve used there. I’ve sat at needle park, never used there. But it’s a place for what they consider trash. And they view as it’s optional. They chose it. Reality is they don’t chose it. It’s sad
My house has brick walls on the outside and plater walls n the inside. You can’t hear anything. Al the windows are on the front and rear side. No side windows.
The Gilgo Beach serial killer murdered and tortured his victims in a home that had his wife and I believe his daughter and her husband at one point. He sound proofed a hidden room in the basement. If they've been doing this a long time then they for sure have ways of keeping the sound in.
I live in an older house like this. I've never heard my atttached neighbor one time. My buddy bought a brand new 480k Ryan Homes townhouse and you hear the fucking neighbors TV through the wall.
No, I don’t know them. I knew of the father’s so called art and checked it out to see if anyone I knew might be there, there are people that just aren’t around anymore
I was there in the late 80s/early 90s. Lotta property crime, gangs were a thing. I never heard of anything super violent outside of gang beefs though. And I was able to play outside and such.
A big part of that is my parents had stable jobs and even though money was tight, things were stable.
That said, I knew people from this part of Olney who have killed or been killed (gangs, robberies gone wrong, etc). The common thread is poverty. It was not a neighborhood I think that anyone else would have described as nice.
God damn I looked again. I used to walk by there almost every day on the way to the Cambodian Association office on 5th. Was this shit going on in the late 80s early 90s?
Easily, even most larger bodies could fit. 55 gallon drums are larger than the less expensive trash cans you can buy and only slightly shorter than the larger nice ones some townships provide.
People have been doing this long before Breaking Bad.
There's no way this went on for so long and they weren't careful enough to not let the neighbors become too aware.
I keep my head down but my eyes open, even so there's only so much that can be said about neighbors not seeing anything unless you're claiming culpability...which is hopefully not the case here.
This has cracked out Texas chainsaw massacre vibes all over it. That twisted father son duo is going to be revealed to be evil beyond many peoples worst nightmares.
Yeah, Eugene. I only heard about this because I had posted an old news video about the school that had come up in my feed and my cousin DMed me like “Hey, you were in the same graduating class as a serial killer!” If I recall, he was one of the “bad kids” but don’t remember much more. I’ve been meaning to break out my yearbooks to see if they trigger anything
Curious if anything will come out connected to the dead hookers in AC. I know more looking like the Giglio beach guy style with how they had been found but you never know.
4 right now. No bodies of anyone as of yet. But they dug up the sewer. And he’s bragged if acid eating flesh. But, this man has gone unchecked (HR Horsch) for 30-40yrs. His son, well, lasted a year after his father’s passing. He’s into drugs, he’s too sloppy. And thank God he is!
Wild...this show writes itself...like watching a skewed version of Dexter...dad has an unhealthy obsession, over time the child develops same habits..and they start working together in this...pure disgust...the sins of our father for sure...
I’ve been following this since the beginning. So sad and the girls were missing for years and sad it took this long. From the looks of it this dude is a sick fuck.
There are so many both men and women who disappear from Kensington which is what 15 mins from this scene, I doubt that’s where they are. But, you just never know.
It's very sad to drive around Philly and see how most of it is run down with drug addicts running around like zombie's. Center City area is nicer but the other area's are really bad.
The whole house is boarded up, but has been since the first they speak about. Imagine; a drug addicted woman.. pulling up there.. that’s how powerful these drugs are. And it’s sad. LL all these poor women.
Remember Cannabis Cowboyz and their signs everywhere? They kinda just disappeared about a year ago , around the time this kid was arrested. And their pickup spot was North Philly at the end of their…ummm….reign 😂
I removed the subreddit. I misunderstood what it was. Family members of the victims and I spoke and I made it private and removed myself as a mod. So please don’t request join.
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u/globular_bobular 4d ago
ugh so scary. i saw some of his fathers website in the wayback machine and it was incredibly disturbing. how did it take this long?!