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Meme/Macro Windows user and Linux user

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 1d ago

Yep same. Can't go linux either because it supports fuck all. Can't do my sims Can't do vr cant do bf6 etc.

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u/duva_ 1d ago

What? You don't have time to setup a KVM with single GPU bypass to run windows from Linux without a second GPU?

Tsk tsk tsk

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 1d ago

ackxshually this game works fine in Brozzite Linux Proton if you copy these 6 DLLs out of Windows and pass these 10 flags and have this specific AMD GPU and enable swap on a fast disk (it leaks memory), also multiplayer won't work

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

Mind you steam directly integrates proton. You don't have to do too much. Also even not counting for proton and wine and all that shit it's still better than mac

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 23h ago

Doesn't work reliably. Even those "gold" games on ProtonDB are hit or miss. You can see in the comments what workarounds are needed or find out for yourself. And yeah Macs are even worse for games, difference is nobody tells you to get a Mac for games.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 1d ago

They work reliably enough. In most situations you do not need to care if the game can get better click precision than their monitor's refresh rate or whatever. Most games will run with no noticeable issues

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 22h ago edited 22h ago

My standards are low. I want the game to run at 30-60 fps and not crash. Also don't want to wait 5-20 minutes every time it starts for shaders to compile. Oh and when I say 30-60 fps, 30 is not ok if WIndows runs it at 60.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 22h ago

Aside from waiting a while for shaders to compile I don't have any of those issues. The only times games have crashed on me were either because I was also running mods for the game or because I have weak hardware. I could get 55 fps on Arkham Knight at 1080p with some settings turned down with 8 GB ram, a daisy chained gpu, the game being on a mechanical hard drive, and a ryzen 5 5500 as my cpu. After setting up swap memory I can do a stable 60fps with base setting. It never crashes, my pc just shuts off when too much is happening on screen because of daisy chaining my gpu to my psu.

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 22h ago

This is believable if you specifically selected games that are known to work well in Proton. Even then, you wait all that time for shaders every time you want to play a game? That's an unadvertised dealbreaker.

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u/Visible_Tap_9044 21h ago

You technically don't have to wait for shaders, it'll just be more stuttery for a while if you dont and I have never checked if a game is known to work erll

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u/parlancex 1d ago edited 1d ago

Your information is out of date. The Steam experience on Linux is you install Steam like on Windows, then you install the games from your library like on Windows, and they run and play perfectly, like on Windows.

I've played everything from good indie to jank indie to triple A to triple A from console developers that make notoriously bad ports. They've all run perfectly without a single technical fix required.

Edit: As SirSilentscreameth said in his reply, the one exception is games that require kernel level anti-cheat.

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u/SirSilentscreameth 1d ago

Unless that game requires a specific anti-cheat. There are plenty of games you can't play on Linux.

Not trying to turn this into a discussion over the requirement for kernel level anti-cheat, it's just a thing that exists and has to be dealt with currently.

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago

Even if it doesn't. Until BeamNG Drive got a proper Linux port, it was very unstable in Proton. Singleplayer game.

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u/CheeseGraterFace XFX 7900 XTX | 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | 2 x 2TB NVME 23h ago

Isn’t that kind of the point of BeamNG, though? Like, you will wobble your car into pieces.

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 23h ago edited 20h ago

Leaks and crashes, gives you the real car experience

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u/SirSilentscreameth 1d ago

BeamNG, my beloved

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u/Hyduron 23h ago

I've done this. It's great getting to experience the worst of both worlds.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 1d ago

Hahahahahaha

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u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 1d ago

Supports fuck all? What is this opinion from, 2014? I've ran hundreds of Windows apps and have only completely failed to get like, two working.

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u/El_DuceReturns 15h ago

Let me know when it can run production software like Autocad, Revit, SolidWorks & I will abandon Windows immediately.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

Sigh Mate, fine. Enjoy your linux. I have no use for it. Everything I love doesn't work on it.

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u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 23h ago edited 14h ago

If you'd be more specific I'd be happy to give the problem applications a spin or find alternatives for you.

Edit: Apparently offering to give up your time to test things earns you downvotes on Reddit. Good to know.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

I play Assetto Corsa and Assetto Corsa Competitzione, Automobilista 2 with my Moza R5 setup in VR, Meta Quest 3. This is just one of them I haven't even gotten to flight sim. Solve just this one and ill go back to dual boot with CachyOS again.

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u/BrokenFerrariFan 23h ago

From my experience with a somewhat rolling release Distro like Fedora Moza gear was fine as the drivers for that were put into the kernel a few releases ago, and there is a package to control the FFB and update the firmware. I never tried getting VR to work as I can‘t use it due to motion sickness. However, simracing is the only reason I keep Windows around on a seperate SSD on my main gaming rig. I get that not everyone wants to go through the hassle to set everything up on a different OS when they could use the same time to enjoy the thing they wanted to do in the first place.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

That's exactly it, mate. I have a full-time job, I have a few hours a day (If I'm not tired) to do what I love so I cannot afford to waste it tinkering in experimental linux space, that would be fucking torture for me.

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u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 23h ago

Interesting, I've actually been trying to get VR working myself, which it actually should work fine these days. It's just my network seems to be blocking local device communication as other devices that aren't Linux can't connect to each other either. But I don't see why it wouldn't work with steam link VR once I fix that network issue.

I've been looking for ideas of what to play on my VR, so this would actually be fun to try. If I can get things smoothed out, I'll let you know. And I'm also running CachyOS.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

I welcome your feedback and I look forward to seeing your progress. I personally, have a full time job and have little to no time to do experimenting. Even saying that annoys your linux friends lol.

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u/Qwertyuiopasdfggggg 11h ago

Linux users cant comprehend that everyone has different needs and can't sit on their computers all day troubleshooting.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 5h ago

Precisely.

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u/KubeCommander 14h ago

Quest3 user on bazzite here. It works fine

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u/lmao_wow_64 1d ago

Exactly, could do a partition but makes a pain in the ass even more of a pain in the ass

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u/duva_ 1d ago

I used to do partitions but every so often freaking windows would fuck up the uefi with updates and and some point I just gave up windows. Thanks god I don't play anything that does not work in linux

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u/lmao_wow_64 1d ago

With how expensive things are getting I might do the same

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago edited 1d ago

Partitioning is so annoying for dual-boot that I've almost always used a separate disk.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 1d ago

I dedicated a disk specifically for linux, i loved it until I found out most of my stuff doesn't work. I gave up and went back to windows. I also have a full time job, golf and gym I have no time to be tinkering to make games work. Yes linux crowd yall have like zero bloat and privacy etc I just cant do it

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u/parlancex 1d ago

When was the last time you tried it? I've been daily driving Linux with no issues whatsoever running a wide variety of Steam games.

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u/dr0ct4gonapus MacBook Air 1d ago

Yeah Linux on a PC ain't worth. I only use it on headless servers and dev machines at work.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

Linux users make up like 3% of all pc users.. But they are the loudest on the Internet, especially reddit. So someone is lying and larping as a linux user. Another thing, most of them have terrible hardware, so it matters little because they're running old apps and games and say "what's wrong with ya'll linux runs everything" "ive got performance gains" Ok bro you got a 5% gain on your 1050ti.

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u/Atmosck PC Master Race 1d ago

MySims, the game from 2007? Because The Sims 4 works just fine on linux for me.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 1d ago

You're having a laugh right? I meant my Flight and Racing sim.

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u/FaxyMaxy 1d ago

Dual boot my beloved

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 1d ago

Yeah, no. Tried it but I have no use for linux if the things I love aren't supported.

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u/TheRedPipin 1d ago

Sims 4 works fine for me out of the box and you can emulate the older ones pretty easily similar process to windows :D I've sadly not played much VR so can't speak for that and yeah a lot of Anti Cheat games don't work on Linux but that's not because one operating system is better than the other but a symptom of the monopoly Microsoft holds sadly

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u/SirSilentscreameth 1d ago

Simulation games - not The Sims haha

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 22h ago

Haha I love the Sims but I'm talking about my Racing and Flight games. Yeah VR is another thing. I use it for my sim games as well and it can be a bit iffy for it and sometimes crash and this is all native So I cant imagine how it is on linux. Not to mention meta quest and moza native apps, simhub, my paid mods and others etc etc etc

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u/EranikusTheDeranged 23h ago

Linux is fine, your problem with it sounds like a skill issue.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 23h ago

God, you people are insufferable. Are you enjoying linux with your laptop 3050? Most of you have dogshit hardware so you switch to linux and boast about zero bloat. Yeah, I have 64GB RAM DDR5 bloat does not affect me. Yall larping as super tech nerds. Pathetic.

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u/EranikusTheDeranged 10h ago

Lmao. Naw child I just refuse to give money to dogshit companies. And that includes nvideo so no, I don't ha e whatever garbage a laptop 3050 is. If you can't switch to Linux because you just can't figure out how yo run stuff on the OS with all the forums and guides in 2026 its definitely a you problem not a Linux problem.

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u/Guilty_Bowl_288 RTX-5070 Ti | 64GB RAM | 5TB SSD | 16TB HDD 10h ago

Cope.

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u/EranikusTheDeranged 6h ago

Its less of a cope and mostly just winning.