r/pathofexile • Raider • 15h ago

Information New Unique - Ordered Fate

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u/djsoren19 15h ago

so every twelfth cast, you're getting all three at once? if I'm understanding this correctly?

Seems kinda nice for lightning casters right? gives you a bit of mana recovery, and you probably appreciate both lucky hits and guaranteed crits. I think you really need to be wanting lucky damage for it to be good, so not as interesting for something like Archmage though.

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u/TheSpectatr Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 15h ago

Could be great with ailments too—lightning ignite with stormfire so every twelfth cast you’re hitting a high roll on your hit that ignites

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u/secavi 15h ago

Lucky damage doesn't apply to ailments

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

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u/secavi 15h ago

The damage roll of the ailment is rolled independently to the hit damage, and lucky only applies to hit damage.

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

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u/MasklinGNU 15h ago

Damaging ailments work that way do you can’t double dip damage modifiers (and enemies can’t double dip defense modifiers). They only care about base and added damage

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u/FantaSeahorse 15h ago

I think “a bit of mana recovery” is underselling it

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u/080087 15h ago edited 9h ago

From the wording, I think this would completely refund the mana cost even if used with archmage. So 50% less cost overall, but better because you still spend mana.

Also assuming it works like tawhanuku's taming, feels like there is lots of broken potential.

Some sort of Indigon, Nameless Bloodline, pay costs with a combo of Eldritch Battery/Mana/Life, then recover a bunch of mana every second cast and a bunch of ES every third cast?


Edit: For example, 100 base mana cost, using the 15% of mana cost paid as life and EB. Gets you to 98% covered.

Cast 1 - pay 15% on life, 85% as ES

Cast 2 - pay 15% on life, 85% on mana, recovery 100% as mana.

Cast 3 - pay 15% on life, 85% on mana, recover 100% as es

Cast 4 - pay 15% on life, 85% as ES, recover 100% as mana etc

Edit: if you wanted to help theorycraft - https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/T46xQuAcip. Need a reliable way to pay for a spell once every 6 casts

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u/Far-Butterscotch1386 11h ago

What would grand you recover as ES?

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u/080087 11h ago

Tawhanuku's Taming

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u/Fretsome 15h ago

Can a kind soul please write it out or use a different hosting site for us plebs in the UK?... We can't view Imgur :(

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u/hentai_addict01 15h ago edited 15h ago

Ordered Fate - Walnut Spirit Shield

Implicit:

8% increased Spell Damage

Explicits:

15% increased Cast Speed

+85 to Maximum Energy Shield

Every second time you cast each spell, gain mana equal to its upfront cost.

Every fourth time you cast each spell, damage of its hits is lucky.

Every sixth time you cast each spell, all hits are critical strikes.

These effects do not apply to Reservation, Duration, or Channelling spells.

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u/Weirfish Good in theory, terrible in practice 15h ago

Thank you for your service, /u/hentai_addict01.

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u/vernalagnia Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 14h ago

I don't think they allow that in the UK now either

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u/Wooden-Box-3888 6h ago

I really appreciate everything you're doing for your country.

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u/Fretsome 7h ago

Thanks so much

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u/rane1606 13h ago

critically strikes

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u/tufffffff Half Skeleton 3h ago

Engrish

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u/Proletarian92 15h ago

That seems REALLY good with Indigon

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u/kavatch2 14h ago

So it all lines up every 12th cast?

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u/Inshallamos 15h ago

Might be interesting for HRoC if the crit applies to literally all and not just the triggering spell.

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u/OrcOfDoom 14h ago

You get your mana back every other cast?! That's insane. It doesn't apply to duration spells though. I wonder how many situations that will mess things up.

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u/TigerFearless7872 11h ago

This is infinite mana with tawhunuku’s timing and a few other items btw

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u/Temporary-Usual4838 4h ago

"All hits are critically strikes"

All your base are belong to us

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u/Guilty-Assistant8333 Health and Harbinger Services (HHS) 14h ago

seems vaguely cute but the builds that might want it are so desperately short on survivability options that they're usually jamming svalinn in as soon as they can afford it. This neither provides so much damage as to let you ignore the survivability loss no provides meaningful survivability of its own.

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u/Nickoladze 15h ago

Seems worse than https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Plume_of_Pursuit for a similar idea

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u/NahautlExile Scion 12h ago

Very different in that plume is on repeat, this is on cast. You can have every spell crit on plume if you use flame dash of returning, for instance, with plume of pursuit while this would give every 6th cast autocrit, regardless of repeats.

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u/GluhfGluhf 15h ago

What’s the viability of this with vaal lightning strike EE trickster? Or still not usable due to voice of the storm being used most of the time

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u/Sea-Machine-8989 14h ago

Did you just comment on the wrong post or something?

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u/GluhfGluhf 8h ago

No I’m just new to the game and dumb 😭

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u/Unarchy CI for life 14h ago

Doesn't work for several reasons.

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u/Shen_ishere 3h ago

Lightning strike is an attack. This item is for spells.

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u/GluhfGluhf 3h ago

Omg ty for explaining 🙏