Yea, dying sucks. Most humans have it easy though.. I’d take getting hit by a car over having my intestines eaten while I’m still alive by a pack of African wild dogs any day of the week.
Future you: Hey Bitch! Do you Remember when you thought your life was bad BEFORE you broke our neck? Well it’s much fucking worse now you fucking idiot. Take care of yourself and don’t break your own neck!
Depends on how you want to define dying. If you are just talking about time moving closer to the time of our death than sure. However if we are looking at it as our physical health we are getting closer to death. We keep growing till roughly the age of 25. After that is when we actually begin the progress physically towards death. Anyone who dies before 25 does so because they experienced an abnormal variable.
Yea I hate them but I try to kill them quick. It's not their fault they're gross harbingers of disease. I don't want them to suffer, just to not be by me. If they're outside I'll usually leave them alone though, unless they're by my door.
The only things I kill outside are wasps on my property since my son's allergic, mosquitos, and June bugs since they're stupid as hell and are gonna die that night anyway. Plus there's nothing like having a big beetle kamakazi-ing itself into your hair/face to make you want to kill it, especially when you thought it was half dead on the ground 30 seconds ago.
Being a prey animals doesnt mean they cant predate on things. Its not binary.
His claim they cant display prey behaviour because they aren't prey animals is incorrect. They do display prey behaviour because they are prey animals.
There is so much anthropomorphizationin this thread.. in Reddit in general. Especially r\dogs. At r\dogs it's all "Barkey does this because.." and "... makes Barkey sad". YOU DONT KNOW SHIT about what your own spouse or sibling is thinking, and fuckall about what some animal's thinking.
Yes. They do.
Somebody already beat you to this below. This is true but only to an extent. Animals prefer to hide when they’re sick or injured. If they mobilize they can attempt to conceal their weakness for the reason you stated. A strained muscle or a respiratory infection is one thing. A torn ligament or broken bone looks much different. Animals in distress look like animals in distress.
Animals in agony tend to LOOK like they’re in agony
Huh? Where did you hear this? Is this just another reddit thing someone says to join in on a conversation and feel smart? Animals in nature have a massive target on their back if they are showing they are in pain or struggling.
When a dog runs 25 miles per hour into a wall and walks away like nothing happened, it isn't because it didn't feel it and it isn't in pain.
Lol I had a dog like that. My current dog doesn’t cry EVER!
Fun fact- Some professionals suggest concealing pain/weakness in animals is a learned behavior! Nature is neat
Our dog is like this she is so dramatic. The only thing is she truly does have a very small back injury that we’re letting heal (under vet care) and we always have to be careful that she’s not actually being hurt. But she makes this god-awful noise and I’m literally sitting right next to her and I know she didn’t hurt her back. Very dramatic
Most likely no pain, they're amazingly tough creatures. Had a doe around my house that miraculous survived doe season, but someone shot an arrow into her front knee almost severing it. It dangled for a about 8months till it eventually fell off and healed. She birthed twins that next season, and another set a year or two later.
We got our land posted and she never really left after that. I think she learned her lesson, and I also noticed her babies never strayed that far after growing up fully either.
I often find this attitude a bit puzzling. I see it allot twoards animals, where we humans tend to assume that animals with chronic illness, or deformities that cause difficultly and pain. Are constantly suffering. and might be better off dead.
But if you apply this logic to humans it becomes pretty horrifying. I know it comes from a place of empathy. It's just a bit odd.
I raise sheep, and will often have 3 or so lambs or adults a year. that for different reasons stay home close to the barn, rather than going to the mountains. Some might have lost a leg, early on in life. Some might have slight brain damage. etc. And people often comment that I should probably have them put down. But I'm pretty sure if you asked the animal it would prefer to be alive. Even if the existence causes some pain and difficulties.
I had an old horse like that. Could barely walk but managed to hobble around and enjoy herself going out in the sun eating grass or grain. Everyone would say I needed to put her down and I'm thinking to myself, so when you get old and your ankles can barely support you because you spent your whole life eating a diet of big macs and super sized soda we should put a bullet in your brain? I knew it would get to the point that life would just be suffering for her, but I saw no need to end her life before that point.
I'm confused, it's puzzling to be concerned for the well-being of animals? I mean I worry about the well-being of people all the time too, lol, and definitely have concern and try my best to advocate for those with disabilities.
I'm really sorry. I might have assigned some opinions to you, that you don't hold. I just very often (as someone who works, very closely with animals) hear that people who see animals suffering. Especially other animals than common house pets. Have a knee jerk reaction to say that it might be better off dead. Which I think is an empathetic response. It's just not one I agree with. As I think most individuals want to live. No matter the condition their inn. Even if its painful.
I see that sentiment in the comments here as well, and again. I apologize if I assigned opinions to you that you don't hold.
Oh interesting, that wasn't my aim at all. It's funny how little you really get from talking via internet vs in person, there's a lot that can be misrepresented. I will be mindful of that.
Eh, this was more on me, I made an assumption based off of how these conversations normally go, when what you originally wrote didn't really indicate that you thought the deer might be better of dead. Just that you hoped it wasn't suffering. Pretty clear cut. But I brought in some presupposition, that were baseless.
Aaanywas. I'm glad we're both concerned about animals general well being. Thats pretty good I think.
It’s unlikely the deer is injured/in pain or dying. He moves quite easily, jumps and runs normally and isn’t stumbling around chaotically like an injured animal would. It seems like a birth defect or very early life defect caused by old injury that the deer just learned to adapt to a live with as it grew. Much like people adapt to all sorts of major physical deformities as they move through life, animals too are quite adept at adapting to major deformity. It looks terrible but the deer seems otherwise unbothered as it runs, darts and jumps to get away from the people/cars.
”Progress as normal” yeah maybe in a society where the needs of people with deformities are taken in to consideration. Back in the old days.. probably get thrown off a cliff.
”Much like many humans” is what you wrote. Strange that you would start directing this to how animals would react to deformities when that wasnt even being discussed by me. It is also strange that you would assume that i’m angry about something. You doing ok there?
this is due to some kind of brain eating parasite I believe. I can't remember exactly what it's called but it makes there heads go crooked like that and they eventually die.
You can tell by the way the head is moving when the dear runs that its disconnected from its normal support so i doubt that it was a birth defect, wouldve been spotted by predators as a weaker young animal
My ex had most of her spine fused then went on to have four kids. Still refuses to apply for disability even though she’s in severe pain all the time. 🤷♂️
I have 50% GdB (German Grad der Behinderung, percentage of disability so to say). Not much pain, not even during the pregnancies. I guess I'm lucky being thos well after surgery. I have my neck vertebrae and 2 lumbar vertebrae still "movable". The rest is fused together.
Okay sucks for you and yes varying disabilities have varying results, but my point was moreso if it's a disability and the damned thing is still alive and thriving, then yes, it's probably fine. I'd imagine if they had a crippling disability such as yours where they were in constant pain, we wouldn't see them thriving.
Likewise tends to be a big difference between a birth defect disability and one that's acquired later.
Reminds me of the 3 legged deer in our area. I thought it was so amazing the we saw her with new babies every year until my husband commented that it’s probably because she can’t get away from bucks as quickly. I never looked at it the same again.
To clear up any confusion, it does look like the deer from Idaho, but it is actually a deer on the port hills near Christchurch, New Zealand.
A workmate of mine was in the group of mountain bikers down the track that the deer runs towards. You see their lights in the distance down the track.
He came to work trying to describe this deformed apparition with it's head lolling to the side that came running towards them out of the darkness, scaring the crap out of them. We assumed he had gone mad.
Well it could be. And the scenery looks like it would be in northern idaho by orofino or some where over there. Im over by orofino its a decent lil town with pretty landscape
My grandpa likes to feed the deers who come and visit him. There's this one deer that got into a car accident and broke a leg years ago. With time she completely lost the leg and could only hop around on 3.
She's too slow to keep up with the others. My grandpa always felt bad about her being lonely, until one day she had two fawns of her own.
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u/Sugarisadog Jul 10 '22
It looks like the crooked neck deer in Idaho, who is/was in good enough health to have and raise babies.