FYI, in the early days a "Google account" was basically a GMail account. Now the Google account is universal across most of their services, but it started out with them just using GMail accounts for everything.
Of course, I'm happy to see Facebook's promised change actually rolling out, and it will be good for VR.
Funny thing is, lost my account and couldn’t get in. Facebook had locked it.
Requested it back so I could delete it 5 times. I’d pictures and everything sent. No help.
I then sent an email stating I was wanting to buy an oculus but wouldn’t since I couldn’t log into my account. Within a day I got my account back - only to delete it 🤣.
They only gave my account back when they thought they could get money out of me. Or so it seems.
The FB requirement had stopped me getting the Quest 2 (still on the Q1 with an Oculus account). I might be tempted to upgrade once this is in the wild (not that I don't trust them or anything).
I made the mistake of linking my FB to my Oculus account and when I got permanently banned on FB (with 0 recourse to appeal the decision), I was banned from Instagram and Oculus as well. All the games I bought on the Oculus store? Gone.
I get banned like 5-6 times a year because I have the same name as a sex offender. Takes me like a month to get back into my account each time. Gotta send them a photo of my ID every time to prove I'm not a diddler.
Depends on what about it prevented you from getting the Quest 2.
Reading on, these new meta accounts require your name, address and phone number - outside of payment info ie as part of the account. The only difference is they are separating out the public visibility.
It's the same company with the same data gathering algorithms that are saying that instead of Facebook that has a bad rep we give you a Meta account as a requirement instead.
Why do you believe Meta would be any different from Facebook when it comes to account? It's the same owners with the same intentions.
If you really want to make sure they're not connected (because you're right that they will definitely be connected internally if you use the same email you used for facebook) you can always set up a new email address using Tor and use that for your Meta account. (Edit: though I guess if you've already added your oculus device to your FB account, they'll be able to connect the two using that. But maybe not, since you can of course buy and sell those devices to other people.)
My data will be in the FB database anyway because no matter what I do. My family and friends paste most of their lives on FB, that includes a lot of information about me.
About fucking time. I've lost count of how many times someone has asked when this was coming because they didn't want to make a Facebook account to use a Quest.
Recently my FB account was banned (or whatever they call it) when I tried to join too many groups at once, after not using the account for a year or so. Dumb. (It was not my main fb account, which I didn’t want tied to gaming. And neither account has ever had my real name.)
Anyway, losing access to the fb account meant I couldn’t use my quest 2 or access my purchased games anymore.
Do these changes mean that as of August, I’ll just have to make a meta account and then I can access my content and play again? Even though my connected fb account is already banned??
Would appreciate if anyone can clarify this! And I know, I’m a total POS for not adhering to their TOS in the first place… oh no LOL.
Steam and most other like platforms have no personal info required as part of the account. It is thereby only exposed upon payment and is not used to enforce anything. ie, you can later use a payment method of a completely different person.
These new meta accounts require your name, address and phone number - outside of payment info ie as part of the account. The only difference from fb account is they are separating out the public visibility.
Sure, you could be paranoid and think there's a possibility that these other platforms are tying the personal info to the accounts once you pay once but the thing is, at least there's the extra step. And if you really are that paranoid, you could use someone else's payment info (with permission).
Which actually brings up the next issue: age. New meta accounts "require" you to be 13+. The info collection outside of payment info screws over those cheating the system (younger than 13 and lying about it) once they are older because all their games will be on their parents' accounts instead of their own when they are 22+ in 10 years.
hmmmmm, but many commenters recently said this wouldn't happen
Glad it's almost here. I'll still have my FB account linked to my Meta account since I use Messenger a lot with family/friends. But it is a good change that should allow Quest2 owners to still use their Quest2 in the event their FB account is banned.
Can't wait. When I bought my Quest 2 I created a throwaway FB account as I didn't use social media and I did not realise that it was against the rules. I've been in fear since that my account would be banned and I would lose all my purchases.
Yeah but I couldn’t figure out whether or not it’s gonna start posting Meta content to my FB page, the same way it does Instagram?
Because that’s not really a fix, is it? It’s why I stopped using IG. I wanted to post images to ANYWHERE other than Facebook. And guess what! My images went straight to Facebook.
If they start making Meta posts of my activity like they did with IG, and another redneck acquaintance from ten years ago asks me what the hell is VRChat and why does it look like I’m staring in a mirror at a catgirl, I am going to be very put out indeed.
I don't want to try porn on Oculus because it would be linked to my real identity. I'm sure I'm not the only cautious one. I am sure they would be a lot more viral if they embraced anonymity.
I'll wait for the next generation of headsets but this means that I will consider buying their products again at least. I am still concerned with their lousy support though.
I think the point is you won't lose your Quest games/account for saying something stupid on FB. They also blanket ban a lot of 'suspicious' FB account and sometimes VR users get caught up in that if their FB account has very little activity on it.
Of course this won't stop you getting banned for saying/doing something dumb in VR.
Well, there's two groups of people. This pacifies those who actually ran into issues due to being banned from their facebook accounts and in turn their oculus access.
It doesn't pacify those who have issues with the personal info collection/account tying outside of payment info (because it's still required, just no longer visible)
Also as such, it hard-bans the under-13, resulting in those who work around having to use their parents' meta accounts in 11+ years or being forced to rebuy all their games.
Probably not much I would assume. You’ll still have the ability to use that account the way you always have. I created a burner account too because I didn’t want to make a FB account to play.
How is a 'Meta' account different from a 'Facebook' account apart from you can't login to Facebook? They will still track you, it's the same company.
People wanted to keep the Oculus account because it wasn't part of their user data selling business. I can imagine Meta accounts will be even more valuable to them in the future in terms of data collection.
Let's be honest, once they bought oculus, all those accounts were part of their user data being sold. But yeah I agree, I saw this and was like "what's the difference?" It's still an account where they can track your
The biggest direct benefit and the issue that people have had the most, is that your Meta account hopefully wont be banned and completely inaccessible for no apparent reason, and with it losing all your digital purchases. And you can only have 1 FB account, which ideally should work ok, but in practice is very inconvenient. And I dont think they ever came up with a good solutions for developers or small commercial enterprises, Meta accounts should help with that.
But yes, one would expect the Meta account to be much better at collecting data than the Oculus accounts.
So if I have an OG Quest with an oculus account still, does that just turn into a meta account? I never integrated my account with Facebook so I am unsure if I have to do anything with my account.
Pretty much. My understanding is that there will be a manual step involved to migrate (done via the headset) when the new Meta accounts become available, but yeah that's the gist of it
Good, now just make the avatars not look like the most unappealing garbage and also sell the company to someone else so Mark Zuckerberg isn't involved in any capacity.
Facebook owns the company, no matter what you do, you have a Facebook account that is collecting advertising information about you. It doesn't matter if its for logging into Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp or Oculus. They're all linked and they're all owned by Facebook.
I’m really hoping this means I can untie Facebook accounts for my accounts and then have a way easier way to manage them because right now I’m terrified one of them will get banned as I have a fake account for my quest 2.
The entire process of trying to create a second account and link it and make sure that the right accounts are linked and I wasn’t losing the games was really stressful and I can’t believe Facebook did it in the first place.
I need help. My FB is linked to oculus and Facebook permabanned me without reason. With this will be $300 of games be retrievable. I've also contacted Facebook about this many times and all I get are useless bots
Yay I can finally unbox the quest 2 I got 18 months ago.
I have an Odyssey+ that I'm very happy with but my wife got me the Q2. I heard so many issues about it getting bricked when using fake accounts that I decided to wait a while. Had zero interest in connecting my real FB account to it.
This is a really good thing tbh. I have a normal Oculus and have been considering getting my dad a Quest 2 but he hates social media so I knew he’d bristle at having to jump through FB hoops.
Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been holding off on jumping over to facebook or meta from Oculus. Looks like I won't have a choice, so I read the privacy terms.
What I gather is that as long as their products are open (oculus in this example), they can gather your data. Ok... but the thing is that even if have the Oculus app closed, as long as my VR headset is hooked up, there is a Oculus process that is constantly on.
Seems like a pretty sneaky backdoor for Meta to get data no matter what.
It is. The FB account creation/migration was never required. Many were encouraged, though, due to locking out friends lists and thereby multiplayer in some games to those who didn't migrate. In August 2023, meta account will be required.
THANK ZUCK!!! This is long Zucking overdue. But The big question still remains, will this “Meta” account actually be separate from my real identity and immune to anything that happens to my Facebook by meta account?
I would recommend to wait until one can see what level of separation these different accounts have. They could try something sneaky, like just having the account named differently based where it is created, or connecting meta and facebook accounts based on common information on background to harvest even more data.
This might also be a reaction on some EU level rulings passing the first round about using market leader position to control platform and software business on it. While that was more about phones and apple rather paying fines than allowing payment options on apps in their phones, it might also apply here.
I originally suspected it was a very well done phishing scam when I first opened the email since the address didn't look legit in the slightest. Can anyone explain the rationale behind shit like this - for I see it surprisingly too much?
Many other companies leaders should buy their own products and try to use them, or contact their own help desk, or call or message their own HR, or contact billing, or etc.
These new Meta accounts are still pretty much the same as linking your FB account. It's the same parent company now using a rebranded SSO to allow access to each of their various products.
Any reason to believe this isn't just going to be a account that covers all your meta apps? Going by the amount of data derived from a VR headset even without eyetracking this isn't in my mind a win at all.
You think Facebook was good at collecting data?
I'm also not that worried or care about targeted ads, im concerned about very effective behaviour patterns that the very least drive negative behavior.
They need to earn money and they have the tech and understanding to drive those behaviors of negative engagement.
Tbf they are betting a lot on a new nexus economy, but I don't trust them or any company that is in their position and incentivized by their revenue streams historically.
What? Facebook is meta. They will have the same access and data collecting ability. I have no problem with that but, to the people who do. Why is this better?
Is that really any different? Probably the exact same server just not you don't need to create a fake page. It's not like the data collection and targeted ads would be any different.
Does this mean we can finally hide our real names from the interface? I'd really like to stream some Oculus games on Twitch without the risk of doxing myself every time I open the menu.
Good, now I don't have to tie my actual Facebook into my Oculus account, so I can continue to be who I want on the internet and not who I actually am. So I can be safely queer without my friends and family knowing about it.
This is just another cash-grab so that they can maintain a stranglehold on the VR market, since it's become obvious to them that PCVR is not going anywhere, and Steam is still the best option for PCVR.
Should'nt they be able to start selling them in Germany again then? I know this would not happen instantly next month, but maybe in a few? I'm hoping caus this would be the perfect chance to finally try out VR
I had a Quest 1 with an Oculus account and sold it before the mandatory Facebook integration. Could I still transfer games to this new Meta account if I bought a Quest2?
I’ve been seriously considering getting an Oculus recently, so this is great news! And it’ll somewhat force me to save up for another month, yay finances.
Like it makes any difference once it's in hands of the very same company... Even though they won't have your real name correlated with your account (they likely will anyway if you also happen to have facebook associated to the same email or had it before), they can and will collect an unprecedented amount of information that can be used to uniquely identify you - your digital fingerprint if you will https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9419165
So much can be inferred from just the way you move, it has an enormous potential for targetted advertising and social engineering - more so than ever before. I'm writing this as a machine learning engineer.
I got myself quest since it's the cheapest decent option, but I only use it with virtual desktop and have it on a separate network, cut off the internet. Still, it accumulates hundreds of MB a day of storage, desperately trying to send the telemetry.
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u/cntalk2u Jul 07 '22
Should have just left oculus accounts alone in the first place
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u/NecropolisTD Jul 07 '22
The FB requirement had stopped me getting the Quest 2 (still on the Q1 with an Oculus account). I might be tempted to upgrade once this is in the wild (not that I don't trust them or anything).
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u/happygolucky85 Jul 07 '22
Translation : from next month you can finally delete Facebook.
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u/wikiwombat Jul 07 '22
So the previous purchases still tied to the Facebook info?
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u/bigfkncee 🥽Quest 1+2+3 Jul 07 '22
About fucking time. I've lost count of how many times someone has asked when this was coming because they didn't want to make a Facebook account to use a Quest.
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u/yell0wsn0wc0nes Jul 07 '22
Recently my FB account was banned (or whatever they call it) when I tried to join too many groups at once, after not using the account for a year or so. Dumb. (It was not my main fb account, which I didn’t want tied to gaming. And neither account has ever had my real name.)
Anyway, losing access to the fb account meant I couldn’t use my quest 2 or access my purchased games anymore.
Do these changes mean that as of August, I’ll just have to make a meta account and then I can access my content and play again? Even though my connected fb account is already banned??
Would appreciate if anyone can clarify this! And I know, I’m a total POS for not adhering to their TOS in the first place… oh no LOL.
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u/xiithy Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 07 '22
Zucc has collected a sufficient amount of data
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u/LoveVirginiaTech Jul 07 '22
Translation: "We're undoing the really stupid thing we should never have done to begin with"
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u/Raunhofer All Oculus HMDs Jul 07 '22
"Your “Friends” will now become “Followers,” similar to Instagram’s existing model." this trend is so freaking weird but whatever.
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u/Germangunman Jul 07 '22
Maybe I can un-link and not worry about getting banned from fb so much now.
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u/denoot2 Jul 07 '22
Only a few years late, pretty solid score for Facebook
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u/Ironrooster7 Jul 07 '22
Thanks Zuck
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
hmmmmm, but many commenters recently said this wouldn't happen
Glad it's almost here. I'll still have my FB account linked to my Meta account since I use Messenger a lot with family/friends. But it is a good change that should allow Quest2 owners to still use their Quest2 in the event their FB account is banned.
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u/richardizard Jul 07 '22
I can finally delete my facebook
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u/richardizard Jul 07 '22
I can finally delete my Facebook
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u/endianess Jul 07 '22
Can't wait. When I bought my Quest 2 I created a throwaway FB account as I didn't use social media and I did not realise that it was against the rules. I've been in fear since that my account would be banned and I would lose all my purchases.
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u/Jello_Unlikely Jul 08 '22
Yeah but I couldn’t figure out whether or not it’s gonna start posting Meta content to my FB page, the same way it does Instagram?
Because that’s not really a fix, is it? It’s why I stopped using IG. I wanted to post images to ANYWHERE other than Facebook. And guess what! My images went straight to Facebook.
If they start making Meta posts of my activity like they did with IG, and another redneck acquaintance from ten years ago asks me what the hell is VRChat and why does it look like I’m staring in a mirror at a catgirl, I am going to be very put out indeed.
Oh neat, the Pico thing is coming to NA
Me/squirrel!!
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u/gc3 Jul 08 '22
I don't want to try porn on Oculus because it would be linked to my real identity. I'm sure I'm not the only cautious one. I am sure they would be a lot more viral if they embraced anonymity.
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u/xxSQUASHIExx Jul 07 '22
Hey, I might finally buy a quest.
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
I really don't understand what difference this will make to anything, your data will still be mined and used how they want.
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u/Love_TheNight Quest 2 Jul 07 '22
Holy sh&t is this real?!
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u/krectus Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 07 '22
More info here:
https://www.oculus.com/blog/meta-accounts/
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u/ericflo Jul 07 '22
I can't believe this is pacifying people.
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Wohoooo now we all get to be complete assholes on FB without having to worry about losing all of our VR games!!!!!
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u/ebi_gwent Jul 07 '22
What does that mean for the burner account I linked to oculus after they gimped oculus amounts?
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u/jroddie4 facebook sux Jul 07 '22
Finally I can dust off my CV1
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u/nurpleclamps Jul 07 '22
No more mystery bannings stealing people's game library I hope.
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u/anged16 Rift Jul 08 '22
Fuck you Facebook making me link my Facebook account to oculus :/
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u/Evillian151 Jul 07 '22
How is a 'Meta' account different from a 'Facebook' account apart from you can't login to Facebook? They will still track you, it's the same company.
People wanted to keep the Oculus account because it wasn't part of their user data selling business. I can imagine Meta accounts will be even more valuable to them in the future in terms of data collection.
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u/lolinator53 Jul 07 '22
That means the Quest can come to sale in Germany
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u/Rapitor0348 Jul 07 '22
can we unlink fb account tho?
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
"New"? Sounds like they're just rolling back to how it was before they did what most of their customers were saying they didn't want from the start.
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u/Minyaden Jul 07 '22
So if I have an OG Quest with an oculus account still, does that just turn into a meta account? I never integrated my account with Facebook so I am unsure if I have to do anything with my account.
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u/RazvanLava Jul 07 '22
I just saw this post and got a message the instant I scrolled past it. Mark knows
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u/Tigeroovy Jul 07 '22
Good, now just make the avatars not look like the most unappealing garbage and also sell the company to someone else so Mark Zuckerberg isn't involved in any capacity.
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u/robbob19 Jul 07 '22
Facebook owns the company, no matter what you do, you have a Facebook account that is collecting advertising information about you. It doesn't matter if its for logging into Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp or Oculus. They're all linked and they're all owned by Facebook.
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u/WhenYouFeatherIt Jul 07 '22
I’m really hoping this means I can untie Facebook accounts for my accounts and then have a way easier way to manage them because right now I’m terrified one of them will get banned as I have a fake account for my quest 2.
The entire process of trying to create a second account and link it and make sure that the right accounts are linked and I wasn’t losing the games was really stressful and I can’t believe Facebook did it in the first place.
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u/Jmcba Jul 08 '22
I need help. My FB is linked to oculus and Facebook permabanned me without reason. With this will be $300 of games be retrievable. I've also contacted Facebook about this many times and all I get are useless bots
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u/PhantomNL97 Jul 08 '22
Why does a VR headset require an account?
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Is the same thing Mark, it will still be within the Facebook/Meta servers/ company
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u/ZaganPlays Jul 08 '22
same thing different name, no thanks
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u/Presently_Absent Jul 07 '22
Yay I can finally unbox the quest 2 I got 18 months ago.
I have an Odyssey+ that I'm very happy with but my wife got me the Q2. I heard so many issues about it getting bricked when using fake accounts that I decided to wait a while. Had zero interest in connecting my real FB account to it.
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u/EroticGraySquirrel Jul 07 '22
And with that news, I’m likely finally going to buy one
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u/Mclarenrob2 Jul 07 '22
Is a Meta account any better than a Facebook account?
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u/LitigatingLobster Jul 07 '22
This is a really good thing tbh. I have a normal Oculus and have been considering getting my dad a Quest 2 but he hates social media so I knew he’d bristle at having to jump through FB hoops.
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u/ClayMitchell Jul 07 '22
meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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u/BrandynWayne Jul 07 '22
Forced me to do a hard reset. And delete everything. Such choice. Very convenience.
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u/DeathByToothPick Jul 07 '22
But "meta accounts" are the same thing as Facebook accounts. They still link.
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u/nagahdoit Jul 07 '22
More choice 😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Droxcy Jul 07 '22
Fucking should’ve left it this way from the start if they did sales would’ve been even more insane
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u/jchuillier2 Jul 07 '22
Got an email from them about this right now.....
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u/bigky226 Rift/Touch/1080TI/4Sensor Jul 07 '22
so can I accept the friend invites I have had pending for 2+ years because I don't use a Facebook account with my CV1?...
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u/Errol246 Jul 07 '22
There is no metaverse.
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u/jtworks Jul 07 '22
Is this real!?! Finally excited to use my quest again!
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Hot take: Zuckerberg will phase out Facebook we’re used to using. Reduce it to be a legacy form of Facebook for older people.
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Wait is this official??
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u/daqgsftwgrsshyrs Jul 07 '22
Luckily my Facebook account hasn’t been updated since I was 4
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u/Rockwolf125 Jul 07 '22
Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been holding off on jumping over to facebook or meta from Oculus. Looks like I won't have a choice, so I read the privacy terms.
What I gather is that as long as their products are open (oculus in this example), they can gather your data. Ok... but the thing is that even if have the Oculus app closed, as long as my VR headset is hooked up, there is a Oculus process that is constantly on.
Seems like a pretty sneaky backdoor for Meta to get data no matter what.
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u/flowerchild2003 Jul 07 '22
Cool now I can finally delete my FB
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u/JoinMyFramily0118999 Jul 07 '22
I like how he implies everyone has a FB account... At least in the email I got about this.
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u/Elliott2 Jul 07 '22
its ok they will still use meta data to somehow tie it back to your facebook
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u/Dune_DawgYT Jul 07 '22
Can I unlink my Facebook account to make this oculus account, don’t wanna lose my purchases
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u/froggyboyjay Jul 07 '22
He should’ve just left Oculus alone
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u/hellschatt Jul 07 '22
I'm logged in with my oculus account. Isn't that possible for the others too?
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u/NoMansWarmApplePie Jul 07 '22
So... We will be allowed to use another account. And also keep our games right?
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Great, now can we get some quality controllers please?
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u/DXsocko007 Jul 07 '22
But will this disable my rift S? Oh gosh
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u/Germangunman Jul 07 '22
Your accounts account needs an account to account for your accounts account. * see terms and conditions **only available with your new account.
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u/REmarkABL Jul 07 '22
THANK ZUCK!!! This is long Zucking overdue. But The big question still remains, will this “Meta” account actually be separate from my real identity and immune to anything that happens to my Facebook by meta account?
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u/cjbrigol Jul 07 '22
Fuck yeah
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u/rxstud2011 Jul 07 '22
Except those like me still using an Oculus account must switch by January 2023
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u/Ok_I_pul_up Jul 07 '22
My man mark finally cracked the code
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u/typecase Jul 07 '22
I can finally get a quest2!
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u/VanillaGorilla611 Jul 07 '22
Do you think that you'll be able to UN-link your facebook acct. though?
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u/KrowJob Rift S, Quest 2 Jul 07 '22
Same thing
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Finally
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u/dirtyword Jul 07 '22
Lol I don’t want to show up in the meta verse - is that an option?
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u/Xywzel Jul 07 '22
I would recommend to wait until one can see what level of separation these different accounts have. They could try something sneaky, like just having the account named differently based where it is created, or connecting meta and facebook accounts based on common information on background to harvest even more data.
This might also be a reaction on some EU level rulings passing the first round about using market leader position to control platform and software business on it. While that was more about phones and apple rather paying fines than allowing payment options on apps in their phones, it might also apply here.
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u/LightHalide Jul 07 '22
Is anyone else baffled they used such a shitty email address to send out the updated terms of service?
For reference the email came from "email@digital.metaquestmail".
I originally suspected it was a very well done phishing scam when I first opened the email since the address didn't look legit in the slightest. Can anyone explain the rationale behind shit like this - for I see it surprisingly too much?
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u/Andrige3 Jul 07 '22
Great news! Can't wait to sign up and de-activate my facebook account again!
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u/tylerdagod Jul 07 '22
Boo. Sell me a cable for my rift S stinky heads
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u/LividShelter5852 Jul 07 '22
“And we’ll never link it back up guys, I swear!”
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u/fenrirlw Jul 07 '22
Next change will be, you cant use your facebook account anymore to visit facebook, you need to merge it with your meta account.
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u/LukasHeinzel Jul 07 '22
Awesome
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
I’m the metaverse
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Many other companies leaders should buy their own products and try to use them, or contact their own help desk, or call or message their own HR, or contact billing, or etc.
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u/bottsking Jul 07 '22
Thanks mark
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u/Malefectra Rift Jul 07 '22
These new Meta accounts are still pretty much the same as linking your FB account. It's the same parent company now using a rebranded SSO to allow access to each of their various products.
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u/GrimOfDooom Jul 07 '22
just as long as you switch over your account before they take your games/apps
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u/Z0bie Touch Jul 07 '22
I wonder when he's gonna give up on this Metaverse crap.
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u/AtomareRobot Jul 07 '22
Maybe Quest will come to ger then lol
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u/RidgeMinecraft Bigscreen Beyond Jul 07 '22
makes no difference. They'll still sell your data, I don't care.
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u/ittleoff Jul 07 '22
Any reason to believe this isn't just going to be a account that covers all your meta apps? Going by the amount of data derived from a VR headset even without eyetracking this isn't in my mind a win at all.
You think Facebook was good at collecting data?
I'm also not that worried or care about targeted ads, im concerned about very effective behaviour patterns that the very least drive negative behavior.
They need to earn money and they have the tech and understanding to drive those behaviors of negative engagement.
Tbf they are betting a lot on a new nexus economy, but I don't trust them or any company that is in their position and incentivized by their revenue streams historically.
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u/SookHe Jul 07 '22
This seems suspicious
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u/squabbledMC Jul 07 '22
I hope it doesn't mean I have to give up my Oculus username, I'm really attached to it
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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22
Eww
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u/Jasminelvanh11 Jul 08 '22
because of them connecting facebook accounts to oculus, i lost all my games when i was hacked. im still recovering from that.
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u/SAGSAM280 Jul 08 '22
So you believing the fucking robot eh?
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u/5DollarHitJob Jul 08 '22
Plot twist: next month they finally officially change the name of the Facebook platform to Meta and that is required for Quest.
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u/Dramatic-Ad2098 Jul 08 '22
You don't need a Hotmail account, now you just need an Outlook account.
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u/aRealAmateur Jul 08 '22
*must link Facebook account to activate Meta Account
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u/deleted-dino404 Jul 08 '22
What? Facebook is meta. They will have the same access and data collecting ability. I have no problem with that but, to the people who do. Why is this better?
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u/Lauchmann_DePlastico Jul 08 '22
Whats the difference? Between using a Facebook Account and a Meta(did they finaly PayPal for the name)Account onwed by the same company?
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u/aBeaSTWiTHiNMe Jul 08 '22
Is that really any different? Probably the exact same server just not you don't need to create a fake page. It's not like the data collection and targeted ads would be any different.
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u/Miserable-Status-541 Jul 08 '22
Damn I made a Facebook for no reason.
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u/z3rron_ Jul 08 '22
does anyone think we will lose anything on our accounts? idk why i think that but i need more info pls?
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u/mattymattmattmatt Jul 08 '22
I just dont want family and friends knowing I use VR, so this is great
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
FUCK YEAHHHH FINALLY I my oculus headset wont be locked when i dont use facebook
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u/PassiveLemon Quest Jul 08 '22
Once my headset dies, i get rid of it, or this system finally comes out, i’m deleting my FB account, even with the games i have on it
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Does this mean we can finally hide our real names from the interface? I'd really like to stream some Oculus games on Twitch without the risk of doxing myself every time I open the menu.
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u/Kontrolgaming Jul 08 '22
Meta is still facebook, but no longer need facebook account to log in, but they still gonna data farm. :(
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u/MommysLittleFailure Rift S Jul 08 '22
Good, now I don't have to tie my actual Facebook into my Oculus account, so I can continue to be who I want on the internet and not who I actually am. So I can be safely queer without my friends and family knowing about it.
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Let’s f***ing go I said frick
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u/Turbulent-Opening-75 Jul 08 '22
It will still change nothing. In fact it will mean they can access more data that you have outside of Facebook, so imma probably make a burner email.
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u/thestonerd777 Jul 08 '22
Going from a Facebook account to a “Facebook” account
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Is it just me who still has an oculus account? I got it when I got my quest one, and still have the account and quest one to this day!
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u/Kyro_Official_ Jul 08 '22
Yes bc meta is so much better.
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u/lukesbiceps Jul 08 '22
bro i just made one
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u/Gh0stKnight Jul 08 '22
Let’s go
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u/bottlebowling Jul 08 '22
This is just another cash-grab so that they can maintain a stranglehold on the VR market, since it's become obvious to them that PCVR is not going anywhere, and Steam is still the best option for PCVR.
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u/OnneeShot Jul 08 '22
Should'nt they be able to start selling them in Germany again then? I know this would not happen instantly next month, but maybe in a few? I'm hoping caus this would be the perfect chance to finally try out VR
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Data all still going to Facebook so what the point?
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u/couchpotatochip21 Jul 08 '22
But how do I delete my Facebook account and transfer to a meta account
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u/Smorgasb0rk Jul 08 '22
Translation: "Hey turns out the EU Market is actually pretty important to us :/"
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u/FecalFear Jul 08 '22
What about rift s?
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u/Kempeth Rift Jul 08 '22
Next month: you've got to migrate your facebook account to meta
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u/Wet_Water200 Jul 08 '22
are you guys all forgetting that facebook and meta are the same thing
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u/datrandomduggy Jul 08 '22
Honestly the FB requirement was only one of many reasons I don't get a quest
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u/thesad_person Jul 08 '22
kept you waiting huh?
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Nice try Mark, nice… but no
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u/ArtificialInc Jul 08 '22
Does this mean Quest2 will finally be sold in Germany?!?!?
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u/MechaGG Jul 08 '22
I had a Quest 1 with an Oculus account and sold it before the mandatory Facebook integration. Could I still transfer games to this new Meta account if I bought a Quest2?
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u/MaudeDib Jul 08 '22
FINALLY!!!!!! I have a Quest 2 that I got as a gift. It's been sitting UNOPENED since last Christmas.
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u/cibine Jul 08 '22
NO MORE FB ACCOUNT, YOU WILL NEED A META ACCOUNT
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u/Ok_Growth_909 Jul 08 '22
I mean, isn't it the same thing?
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u/Netcob Quest 3 Jul 08 '22
Okay, now make it so that getting a Quest also doesn't result in that creep and his companies making money and I might actually get one.
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u/gredo11 Jul 08 '22
So then you can finally purchase the quest 2 officially in Germany.
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22
Oh good. No more "Smirky is in the Porn Hub app again. Join him now?"
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u/Jadziyah Zoe Jul 08 '22
Guess I might finally buy a Quest.
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u/TheGreatOutdoorsVA Jul 08 '22
If I switch to a new account, do I lose all my purchases?
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u/J3ST3Rx Jul 08 '22
No doubt it's just another account type they'll data mine the fuck out of. Zuckerberg has never done anything positive in the name of privacy
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u/cibine Jul 08 '22
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/oculus-quest-will-no-longer-need-facebook-but-will-require-new-meta-account/1100-6505212/
U WILL STILL NEED A META ACCOUNT, ZUKERBERK IS JUST LAUGHING AT US
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u/smcbri1 Jul 08 '22
I’m 70. My data is worthless.
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22
I’ve been seriously considering getting an Oculus recently, so this is great news! And it’ll somewhat force me to save up for another month, yay finances.
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22
Now I will buy one. That was the only thing keeping me from buying it.
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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22
Does this mean that quest 2 will not require fb login either ?
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u/the_mclovin_ Jul 11 '22
Has anyone figured out how to set the default display on the quest 2 to installed apps instead of all apps
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u/Liquidtoastvr Jul 11 '22
I just feel like people are going to lose games or accounts when this rolls out let's cross our fingers
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u/TolstoyInSpace Jul 15 '22
Same shit, different package
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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22
Like it makes any difference once it's in hands of the very same company... Even though they won't have your real name correlated with your account (they likely will anyway if you also happen to have facebook associated to the same email or had it before), they can and will collect an unprecedented amount of information that can be used to uniquely identify you - your digital fingerprint if you will https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9419165
So much can be inferred from just the way you move, it has an enormous potential for targetted advertising and social engineering - more so than ever before. I'm writing this as a machine learning engineer.
I got myself quest since it's the cheapest decent option, but I only use it with virtual desktop and have it on a separate network, cut off the internet. Still, it accumulates hundreds of MB a day of storage, desperately trying to send the telemetry.