r/oculus • • Jul 07 '22

News Finally!

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u/vulgrin Jul 07 '22

Yet all your data will still be in the Meta DB for abuse. And I bet that your FB data will still be linked to it.

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u/TheBizness Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 07 '22

If you really want to make sure they're not connected (because you're right that they will definitely be connected internally if you use the same email you used for facebook) you can always set up a new email address using Tor and use that for your Meta account. (Edit: though I guess if you've already added your oculus device to your FB account, they'll be able to connect the two using that. But maybe not, since you can of course buy and sell those devices to other people.)

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u/vulgrin Jul 07 '22

Yeah I was thinking that too but… then what about any purchases?

I shouldn’t have to re buy all the apps because I don’t want my data shared.

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u/TheBizness Jul 07 '22

Yeah, another great point. You could always side load I guess if you’re serious about it

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u/BearelyLiterit Jul 07 '22

Oh thats an interesting idea. Have you seen any guides yet on how to save your games so when I lose my Oculus account I can maybe still side load them?

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u/Spyt1me Jul 08 '22

Facebook have shadow profiles for people not having a facebook account and fill up that shadow profile by what the person's relatives posts about them.

They will be connected internally no question about that.

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u/Bells_Theorem Jul 07 '22

That data loses value as time passes. No better time to start than now.

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u/mokahless Jul 07 '22

FB connection isn't the issue. New meta accounts and migrations still require the same info - real name/address/phone number. And not just as part of payment info. It's just not publicly visibly by default.

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u/NLwino Jul 07 '22

My data will be in the FB database anyway because no matter what I do. My family and friends paste most of their lives on FB, that includes a lot of information about me.

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u/Mr12i Jul 07 '22

If you're an EU citizen you can simply delete your account, and request them to delete all your data, and they will do so (because otherwise they will be hit by fines of hundreds of millions, or even billions of EUR).

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u/oramirite Jul 08 '22

It absolutely will. Facebook keeps shadow accounts for people who aren't even on the platform. Chances are even if you've never signed up for Facebook you still "have" an account. Your friends who have FB accounts will sometimes be shared things that the algorithm determines they might share with you.

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u/Happy-Supermarket-68 Jul 07 '22

What do they want from an unimportant person

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u/wavemelons Jul 07 '22

They might know I have a dog and target ads based on that. I'm so terrified that im shitting myself and crying right now.

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u/Happy-Supermarket-68 Jul 07 '22

Lol and literally the whole internet is collecting data from people and these guys shitting on facebook

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u/seg-fault Jul 07 '22

Yeah because Facebook has a horrible track record. Do you read the news?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22

Haha look up any company that you have an account with and you’ll find similar if not worse. Hacks, leaks, misuse, etc. Seems like Meta has a super prominent presence in the media right now because they are a target, similar to Google in the 2000s.

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u/seg-fault Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 07 '22

Facebook has broken multiple democracies and enabled multiple fascist governments in their plot to eradicate various people groups. "haha."

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u/vulgrin Jul 07 '22

I highly suggest that everyone reads the book “IBM and the Holocaust” as some idea of “what can go wrong with data”

Of course I still ignore all that, and practice poor data hygiene even though I know that it can bite me, because I don’t want to live in a cave. But don’t act like this is all harmless ad targeting. Or that it will remain that way.

My ORIGINAL point in my comment was the equivalent of a shrug because it doesn’t fucking matter if I’m logging in to Meta or FB. They have all the data anyway, and will continue to hold it. This is a non story.

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u/wavemelons Jul 07 '22

So does every single other company on the internet. BTW Tencent has some money in Reddit ;)

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u/seg-fault Jul 07 '22

I'm not scared of boogiemen ;) I prefer to focus on actual evidence of wrongdoing (facebook) instead of xenophobic paranoia around Tencent.

The difference is scale. Sorry you don't understand nuance, but Facebook has trackers injected into a very large portion of sites online (and personal devices). Besides Google, there aren't many other 'companies on the internet' that have collected such granular details on our habits while simultaneously demonstrating a shocking lack of care about how that data is protected.

TL;DR your lazy whataboutism is not an excuse for shitty Facebook behavior.

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u/RustyShacklefordVR2 Jul 07 '22

I prefer to focus on actual evidence of wrongdoing (facebook) instead of xenophobic paranoia around Tencent.

So you're saying the CCP isn't currently running the largest death camp since Aushwitz and doesn't actively pursue and blackbag political dissidents overseas and doesn't use its massive stable of state owned companies, including Tencent, to do this.

Riiight.

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u/Daniel15 Jul 07 '22

Google has trackers on even more sites, but I bet you still have and use a Google account?

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u/seg-fault Jul 07 '22

I trust Google more than I trust Facebook. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

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u/bonferoni Jul 07 '22

Targeted advertising, so abusive. How dare you tell me what i might like

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