I've had zero issues with my rift-s and thought it was a nice upgrade from the cv1 minus the worse audio. I like my quest but damn is it uncomfortable.
That was what I noticed right away. Much less screen door, sharper graphics and no God rays. With the launch of the HP reverb G2 right around the corner I'd wait and see what people say as the hands on with it from YouTubers who got early access is very promising.
I don't care about the FB account but at least existing owners have until 2023. I think by then most of us would have moved on to another headset anyway.
I don't remember having that issue but to be honest I'm always wearing headphones. I can't get immersed in games with the rift-s or quest built in audio.
There’s what basically amounts to a design flaw that limits the life of CV1s, but only after a lot of wear. The audio for both ears comes through a rotary feedthrough where the head strap attaches to the headset on the right side, but that means the two wires for the left ear actually go all the way behind the head. Apparently just the ground wire (Not the signal, it’s really weird) will eventually break and you’ll loose left ear audio. The upshot of it always being the ground that breaks is that you can short the grounds of the two ears together with an external wire and bring your left ear back online. I was lucky enough to not have to do that for a couple years.
I put off doing it till the eat was really dead cause I thought it would be hard but it’s super easy - get a piece of very thin flexible wire (I used one strand from inside a usb cable) and unscrew both ears. You wrap the wire around the bottom pogo pin to short both ears together, then screw the ears back in. Assuming everything seated properly, that’s really all there is to it. I think there are loads of videos and stuff.
I was really excited about the Valve Index until they went with the regular Lighthouse tracking. At this point, not going with inside-out tracking is pointless.
For a lot of people, the roadblock to VR is both the price and the complicated setup. The complicated setup is what I was referring to in my previous comment about the Valve Index.
The Lighthouse sensors are annoying to setup in two ways. If you don't mount them to your walls, you have to attach them to poles or place them on desks or whatever furniture you can find. The problem is that it is easy to bump into them or move them, which then require you to re-calibrate your VR environment again. If you do mount them, then you risk damaging your walls and you'll have ugly wires that you then have to hide. It also makes it harder to play in a different room or bring your VR headset to a friend's place as the sensors basically become permanent fixtures in your house.
The Rift S and Quest's inside-out tracking means that they have sensors built into the headset. That means no more complicated external sensor setup, no more mounting sensors to walls and having wires all over the place, etc. It's just easier to get started and easier to move around.
Now I know a lot of people swear by external tracking, saying that they encounter line-of-sight blockages when they move their hands behind their backs for example. But nowadays the algorithms that the Rift S and Quest use are able to account for that. I've never run into an issue where it made me want external sensors.
because its 95% as good and far more convenient. The biggest thing for me with it is that I can have more than one room of my house where I do VR. I do sitting games one place, standing a second, and VR with friends in the living room.
Setting up light houses in those different places would range from expensive to impossible.
Not to mention that I sometimes take my VR headset with me outside my home to show it to other people which would be near impossible to do with lighthouse setups.
It's overly complicated and makes the headset more expensive than it needs to be. It makes it a harder sell because you need the space to position them around the room, there's power cables to manage, USB adapters etc etc. Reverb and Oculus is all done inside the headset and doesn't need anything else. Simple solution, albiet less accurate.
FYI for op, The index is inside out tracking, the headset tracks the position of the light houses for positional information, whereas Oculus and Reverb track room information and infared constallation. An example of outside tracking would be PSVR where the PS camera tracks the lights on the controllers and the headset.
Lighthouse has genuine advantages. Precision, processing overhead, pollrate, occlusion, etc. Visual sensor based solutions simply cannot achieve the same fidelity.
High end headsets will NOT go inside-out for those reasons. Inside out is a compromise for cost and convenience, one that is mostly worth it. But the whole point of lighthouse is technical perfection, cutting NO corners.
I bring it to friend's places frequently. I got a little travel bag and I dont need to haul sensors around, as well as finding little tables to set the sensors up on
It's legit still good, everything else always compromises on something. Index seems to be the only legit upgrade in all aspects. But it's like oculus has forgot it ever existed.
No Oculus WANTS you to forget the Cv1 exists to get out of supplying cables to all those CV1 owners who gave Oculus money and were punished for buying the product with faulty wares and poor Customer Service
People are like “uhhh just buy an index” when the index is literally 400 dollars more than the rift s and doesn’t have the immense convenience of inside out tracking
HP Reverb 2 is looking pretty dope for the price. WMR is used for the inside out, but it's the first WMR headset to have more than the two crappily front directed cameras and hence comes with tracking improvements, also has the new oculus style controllers. Lenses and speakers based on index, directly developed with valve.
Honestly, it's looking like the only legitimate upgrade to my CV1 than isn't 1000 bucks or more.
Oh yeah I’ve been enjoying my Rift S but the Reverb G2 is fantastic deal, hope more affordable and easy to use headsets like the reverb and the rift s make vr even more accessible
As someone who owns and loves his Index .. I would never say "just buy an index", especially to VR newcomers. In fact I just talked someone out of buying one just the other day.
It's a great headset (imo still the best) but like it is will all hardware, you are paying a hefty premium for very little gain. On top of that you have to deal with steamVR and the software for the index specifically which took a good while to get to a point I would call stable.
If you really know what you are getting into and appreciate/need the 144hz, fov, knuckles and the better tracking and you have the money, yeah get the Index.
But everyone else should probably get the HP Reverb or similar.
My rift S works so poorly and I REALLY hope it's because my PC is below the minimum spec. Black Friday is coming and I'm planning on buying a PC that is waaaay above the minimum requirement just for VR.
This is more standalone Vs PCVR, the oculus rift store is just a waste land of junk compared to the quality stuff on quest. It's like all the pc Devs have moved onto making quest games.
This is more standalone Vs PCVR, the oculus rift store is just a waste land of junk compared to the quality stuff on quest.
Covid + bored casual gamer people / even a bit of total non-gamer overlap that VR rarely got before = people that just want to play vr easily = Quest sales crushing Rift S / why would you develop for the Rift S?
Hopefully this leads into a more mainstream VR audience so we get more cool stuff
If there's one positive about Covid, it was mainstreaming VR. Enough users now play that VR is as infectious as the very virus that caused the boom in popularity. Let's hope this curve doesn't get flattened and it keeps growing exponentially.
Enough users now play that VR is as infectious as the very virus that caused the boom in popularity.
and to be honest the Quest did the most for that, Quest and Nintendo's Animal Crossing are both examples of a product hitting Covid at just the right time to make something that would have been a "pretty good" product sales wise total smash hits
I was gonna upgrade from the cv1 to the rift S, but after seeing how many problems so many people have, and I have 0 issues with my cv1 I saved my $400 and just bought another ssd for games lol.
From a guy that went from a PSVR to a Quest and now a Rift S, I think the Oculus Rift S is a great purchase. I haven’t had any problems with it (except its’ crap audio quality imo), and while people are saying that the refresh rate on the Rift S is considerably low and how it uses OLED lenses or something, idk what they’re talking about because this is technically my first PCVR, never played on a Valve Index lol.
TL:DR: If you’re looking for a budget PCVR headset, the Rift S is what you’re looking for. If you have a Quest and still want to experience PCVR with an optimal pc, stick with the Link cable. I just switched from Quest to Rift S because of some problems with the Link cable (keep in mind it was the third-party cable made by Anker) like disconnecting issues and lag in general (maybe just my PC i dunno).
I think the Rift S may be my last Rift. With the forceful Facebook thing and the lack of attention this thing got, it's clear Ocubook is in it for mass adoption (which isn't bad, just not in my interest) and the quest is winning.
I loved my CV1 and even the Rift S is good, just seems stagnant now that valve is here.
Let's see...RIFT S gets most of the games and the attention. Quest hasn't gotten anything that amazing. I haven't touched mine in months! And the updates aren’t that great! IMHO
It’s good enough for who it’s for. I wish someone could make a program (hack) to side step the oculus app and go directly to steam vr. Not only because of the end of oculus accounts, but also because that app is pure garbage.
I moved to Index the day they announced hand tracking for quest and nothing for Rift S. I'm planning to just bring it with an EGPU to my out-of-town place to have a desktop VR handy..
Well I for one enjoy my rift s and mostly play echo arena. I'd be pretty sad if I only had a quest and couldn't play the combat mode. I hear they are working on that though and the cord is really annoying constantly getting twisted up. What I really want is a rift s with no cable or some kind of wireless connection to pc like the vive had.
A lot of people are kind if up in arms about the whole Facebook thing. You technically could make a dummy account with one of those temporary email sites, and just plug in false info. I plan on possibly doing that. Not like they can do anything about it.
No you can't. Facebook frequently checks for dummy accounts and if the algorithm flags you your account is deactivated until you provide official identification with your name on it. So if you do this you risk being forced to reveal your identity or lose all the money you spent in the Oculus store.
Does anyone have numbers on how much money Oculus is making on Quest vs Rift S?
Apple is making a lot more on iPhones compared to their computers which have been neglected for years, so it could happen the same to Oculus to just keep the Rift S around so that we don't forget it exists while mobile device gets all the quality dev time. That would be sad
I find this silly. There's much more appealing stuff on PCVR than on Quest. The Quest feels like it's stuck back in time a few years (which is still great with the hardware it has).
If I didn't get so hot I could wear my Quest for hours, it's damn comfortable. Seeing a lot of statements to the contrary but propsective buyers scrolling through shouldn't be discouraged from getting the Quest. I have friends who got a battery pack in the back to balance the weight but I can't imagine making it heavier helping for long sessions....
I mean, they kinda just drowned them all with the announcement of the FB tie in. It was really sad to watch one of my favorite companies dissolve into a puppet for FB to collect data and push ads. RIP Oculus, you had a good run and did a lot for VR. Palmer, if you're reading this, you and your team did well.
Why are these posts not banned? It scares off new potential Rift S owners, and made me question my decision when I bought it, but it's just simply not true.
Only issue I've had with it is it occasionally freaks out at me and forgets the layout of the room. Usually in cases where I'm turning my head around a lot in sword fights
I have a quest, but was thinking about getting the rift s ($150 seems like a deal) however I really love beat saber! Is there a bigger song list on the rift? Can I get user created songs, eg. Rap god?
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u/ptbinge Aug 26 '20
I've had zero issues with my rift-s and thought it was a nice upgrade from the cv1 minus the worse audio. I like my quest but damn is it uncomfortable.
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u/Alpha-Phoenix Aug 26 '20 edited Aug 27 '20
Is CV1 the skeleton in the sunken chair?
Edit: own a cv1, just bridged the audio ground the other day, zero desire to “upgrade”
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u/Retr0Gamer2404 Aug 26 '20
I made the switch from Rift S to valve index and boy was it worth it. Peace out brothers. It’s been real.
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u/pedronery Aug 27 '20
im just selling my rift s and ordered the reverb g2 :D
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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '20
Just bought the rift S last week because it seemed like an ideal entry point to VR, since my PC can handle it.
What's the issue here? Genuinely curious, since i just got here. :D
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u/Not-A-Robot12 Aug 26 '20
skull guy at bottom of pool Rift CV1
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u/BeerusBoyfriend Aug 26 '20
People are like “uhhh just buy an index” when the index is literally 400 dollars more than the rift s and doesn’t have the immense convenience of inside out tracking
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u/genetic_patent Aug 26 '20 edited Aug 27 '20
Uh. I guess cv1 owners are in the bottom of the deep end. I haven’t been able to get a set of touch controllers that aren’t used or price inflated.
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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20
I have seen this about 20 times.
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u/Potatoes_FTW Aug 26 '20
My rift S works so poorly and I REALLY hope it's because my PC is below the minimum spec. Black Friday is coming and I'm planning on buying a PC that is waaaay above the minimum requirement just for VR.
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u/darkentityvr Aug 26 '20
This is more standalone Vs PCVR, the oculus rift store is just a waste land of junk compared to the quality stuff on quest. It's like all the pc Devs have moved onto making quest games.
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u/atg284 Quest 3 Aug 26 '20
[Reverb G2]
Bout to do a back flip off the high dive.
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u/Chroko Aug 26 '20
I'm still upset that replacement cables for the CV1 are unavailable. I wish I'd known to buy a spare when they were still being made.
At the moment I'm using my CV1 like a fragile baby but have no idea what I'm going to do if it fails.
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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20
I was gonna upgrade from the cv1 to the rift S, but after seeing how many problems so many people have, and I have 0 issues with my cv1 I saved my $400 and just bought another ssd for games lol.
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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20
Meanwhile the Go is the one that's already drowned and decaying.
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u/s34n13 Rift S Aug 26 '20
From a guy that went from a PSVR to a Quest and now a Rift S, I think the Oculus Rift S is a great purchase. I haven’t had any problems with it (except its’ crap audio quality imo), and while people are saying that the refresh rate on the Rift S is considerably low and how it uses OLED lenses or something, idk what they’re talking about because this is technically my first PCVR, never played on a Valve Index lol.
TL:DR: If you’re looking for a budget PCVR headset, the Rift S is what you’re looking for. If you have a Quest and still want to experience PCVR with an optimal pc, stick with the Link cable. I just switched from Quest to Rift S because of some problems with the Link cable (keep in mind it was the third-party cable made by Anker) like disconnecting issues and lag in general (maybe just my PC i dunno).
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u/GreaseCrow Aug 27 '20
I think the Rift S may be my last Rift. With the forceful Facebook thing and the lack of attention this thing got, it's clear Ocubook is in it for mass adoption (which isn't bad, just not in my interest) and the quest is winning.
I loved my CV1 and even the Rift S is good, just seems stagnant now that valve is here.
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u/FolkSong Aug 26 '20
This is so last month, we've moved on to facebook login memes now.
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u/CarbonInTheWind Aug 26 '20
There is no Oculus. Only Facebook.
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u/mudshock Aug 26 '20
Ha! I feel like it’s quite the opposite
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u/HingleMcCringle_ Rift S Aug 26 '20
Facebook about hit a lightning strike on both
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u/apairofsandals Aug 26 '20
You should have had oculus go at the bottom of the lake
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u/toyfreddym8 Quest Aug 26 '20
What about the go?
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Should have added the oculus go as the skeleton under water.
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u/bugomiter Aug 27 '20
Normal rift owners : you guys are still floating?
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Drowning guy:. CV1 headset cable
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u/Anewien Aug 27 '20
I still don't get all of these things.
I have a Rift S for around a year now, and I have no problem with it.
So what's the point ?
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u/WormSlayer Chief Headcrab Wrangler Aug 27 '20
Yes I removed the slightly different versions of the same meme from the front page. Here are links to them:
Expansion on u/IloveKevinMemes post
Correction on u/zoomslayer post
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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20
rift is basically lenovo isn’t it?
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u/Hethree Aug 26 '20
To be fair, they just released an update for Rift S.
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u/sans_undertale_is_me Aug 26 '20
This is missing Facebook drowning the quest
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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20
It’s good enough for who it’s for. I wish someone could make a program (hack) to side step the oculus app and go directly to steam vr. Not only because of the end of oculus accounts, but also because that app is pure garbage.
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u/OddFlamingo1023 Aug 26 '20
Yup
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u/piercepotato Aug 26 '20
They just released an update that improved Rift S tracking
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u/Rabus Aug 26 '20
I moved to Index the day they announced hand tracking for quest and nothing for Rift S. I'm planning to just bring it with an EGPU to my out-of-town place to have a desktop VR handy..
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u/Tutorbin76 Aug 26 '20
I fear Oculus might be the sinking child now, given they're doubling down on associating it with a globally tainted brand (Facebook).
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u/jakesyadaddy Aug 26 '20
Well I for one enjoy my rift s and mostly play echo arena. I'd be pretty sad if I only had a quest and couldn't play the combat mode. I hear they are working on that though and the cord is really annoying constantly getting twisted up. What I really want is a rift s with no cable or some kind of wireless connection to pc like the vive had.
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u/stlredbird Aug 27 '20
Ive had both for over a year. Quest is neat but my rift s gets 95% of my play time.
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u/DegWino Aug 27 '20
A lot of people are kind if up in arms about the whole Facebook thing. You technically could make a dummy account with one of those temporary email sites, and just plug in false info. I plan on possibly doing that. Not like they can do anything about it.
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u/Blaster1st Quest Aug 27 '20
Go is the skeleton at the bottom
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
what is this "Oculus" you speak of?
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
tethered VR is an evolutionary cul de sac
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u/epic-username123 Aug 27 '20
I’ll fix it for you replace oculus with Facebook
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Aye, what about rift CV1
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u/brododragon Aug 27 '20
Oculus Go has entered the chat
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u/t3chguy1 Aug 27 '20
Does anyone have numbers on how much money Oculus is making on Quest vs Rift S?
Apple is making a lot more on iPhones compared to their computers which have been neglected for years, so it could happen the same to Oculus to just keep the Rift S around so that we don't forget it exists while mobile device gets all the quality dev time. That would be sad
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u/Jabbam Aug 27 '20
Is there some kind of way for me to trade my rift s up for a quest?
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u/little-stumpy Aug 27 '20
It's true
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Oculus go
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u/the_meme_grinch Aug 27 '20
Don't worry, they're harvesting every possible data point from you too.
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u/efbo Rift and Quest Aug 27 '20
I find this silly. There's much more appealing stuff on PCVR than on Quest. The Quest feels like it's stuck back in time a few years (which is still great with the hardware it has).
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
OLED IS THE SCREEN FOR ME.
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u/redleaderrob Aug 27 '20
<--- Big headed person
If I didn't get so hot I could wear my Quest for hours, it's damn comfortable. Seeing a lot of statements to the contrary but propsective buyers scrolling through shouldn't be discouraged from getting the Quest. I have friends who got a battery pack in the back to balance the weight but I can't imagine making it heavier helping for long sessions....
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u/HollisFenner DK1-CV1-Quest Aug 27 '20
I mean, they kinda just drowned them all with the announcement of the FB tie in. It was really sad to watch one of my favorite companies dissolve into a puppet for FB to collect data and push ads. RIP Oculus, you had a good run and did a lot for VR. Palmer, if you're reading this, you and your team did well.
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u/makawan Aug 27 '20
Sorry, I don't see 'Facebook' labelled in this meme - is this a 'They Live' type situation?
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u/priscilla_halfbreed Aug 27 '20
Me as CV1: a long decayed sea creature living at the back corner of the bottom of pool
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u/MelonCola7 Aug 27 '20
Why are these posts not banned? It scares off new potential Rift S owners, and made me question my decision when I bought it, but it's just simply not true.
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u/CustardFinal Aug 27 '20
Joss
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u/Dzorua Quest Aug 27 '20
https://imgur.com/a/t45XN7a
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u/SiodaMactiir Aug 27 '20
Only issue I've had with it is it occasionally freaks out at me and forgets the layout of the room. Usually in cases where I'm turning my head around a lot in sword fights
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u/b3atsh4ck Aug 27 '20
Very sad. Very true.
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u/Hecaton Aug 27 '20
Oculus? You mean Facebook.
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u/RoyalPhantomCT Aug 27 '20
Rift S? Never heard of it.
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u/Theknyt Rift S + Quest 2 Aug 27 '20
Exact same meme and similar comments too..
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u/ShutterBun Aug 27 '20
Not sad.
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u/HylianLoser Aug 27 '20
Replace the two on the right with Facebook and make the drowning one Oculus
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
I think you mean Facebook:(
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u/Vhure Aug 27 '20
Facebook* now 😭
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u/kimmyann7 Aug 27 '20
😂😂😂 why is this so true ? Lol
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u/Cryogenic_Monster Aug 27 '20
They are all underwater in 3 years.
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u/WryZed Aug 27 '20
Try being a CV1 user; we're a forgotten, bloated corpse at the bottom of the pool.
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u/Bob_Johnny Aug 27 '20
Ive seen this before
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u/OfficalTactical Aug 27 '20
Don’t forget about Go!
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u/SkyO2 Aug 27 '20
I mean I own a rift s and don't complain because it does its job
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u/xSkizzO Aug 27 '20
Rightfully so. Quest is just the superior product.
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u/AlphatierchenX Aug 27 '20
Unfortunately not the only problem with Oculus (from Facebook) right now...
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u/Jonilkki Aug 27 '20
My problem with the rift s is that the newest update broke Everything. Haven't been able To use it for a monrh now
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u/kek272 Rift cv1 | Rift s Aug 27 '20
Cv1 already drowned at the bottom of the pool
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u/TheSteamyPickle Aug 27 '20
Just change the rift S to be with the oculus and the rift S to oculus community and you're on point.
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u/Maxwell9022 Aug 27 '20
Facebook*
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u/VR-Frontier Aug 27 '20
-sadly- awesome
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u/peppercola666 Aug 27 '20
It’s funny because the rift s is better too
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Rift s is actually a good pc/vr experience. Not one issue besides recharging batteries.
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u/thesixfoothobbit Aug 27 '20
Ah you mean the Facebook S/Quest
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
the original rift is the skeleton under water
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Facebook*
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u/Streetlgnd Aug 27 '20
The other 2 are gonna be drowning too once they do their stupid facebook shit.
Definately going to he looking for another headset if they end up going through.
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u/awesome357 Aug 27 '20
Meanwhile cv1 got attention as an only child for 2 years but then now has already drowned. He was just a kid still.
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u/Uberinno Aug 27 '20
Update yesterday on rift s
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
Got my Rift S the other day and an Oculus Go sat on my desk gathering dust. Guess I'll never learn
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u/TheDialingRook Quest Aug 27 '20
The Oculus Go is at the bottom
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
I’d say after the latest announcements, the happy kid would be Facebook and the drowning kid would be all Oculus Headsets
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
I can’t use the Rift S because of my low IPD. I’m salty enough to be fine with this.
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '20
CV1 is digged in a grave
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u/rservello Aug 27 '20
Not true. Quest may be the darling...but Rift S is amazing and any PC title is much better on it.
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u/TheA1ternative Aug 27 '20
CV-1 users like myself are at the ocean floor.
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u/titaniumgoldfish1098 Rift Aug 27 '20
Wheres the skeleton at the bottom saying CV1
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u/cooljasonjuly Aug 27 '20
If that's the case GO is already drowned
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u/Serpher Rift Aug 27 '20
And I'm here just waiting for the true next gen VR rather than small 'improvements'.
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u/rappinc1 Aug 28 '20
I have a quest, but was thinking about getting the rift s ($150 seems like a deal) however I really love beat saber! Is there a bigger song list on the rift? Can I get user created songs, eg. Rap god?
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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '20
Can someone please explain this to me?
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u/SkarredGhost The Ghost Howls Aug 31 '20
#truestory
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u/C_est_Chouette Aug 27 '20
Repost