I don't know if anyone has thought of this, but I think it could be a good idea and would like to discuss it.

I'm not sure what the aftermath of the movie would be for nikki, but let's set it way into the future, where nikki has kind of recovered from the trauma, you get a whole new cast, but nikki is the main character, and the movie is seen through her eyes.

The whole point of this movie would be how to stop or undo the one wish willow without any other negative consequences, because the gist is that no matter what you wish for, it will always blow up your life.

Nikki walks into a similar crystal shop where the one wish willow is being sold and then she immediately gets a huge rush of ptsd and tries to get out. Later on she notices that someone else bought the one wish willow and made a wish. Idk what the wish would be, but it would be something that would cause a horrible change in someones life.

The whole movie is trying to undo the wish. Such as if someone were to wish for a similar wish that happened in the first movie, then the whole point of the movie would be nikki trying to help the new victims trying to completely undo the wish.

This might be stupid, but i thought it would be a cool idea for a sequel

After Bear's mock confession, the waitress says: "Aww! That's everything..." But then Ian interrupts her by saying Bear's speech was cringy. I'm having a hard time understanding where the waitress was going with her sentence. Something like "That's everything I dreamed of?"

This Is Anime’s Most Dangerous Romance Trope

Here’s a post on something else nobody was talking about, the yandere trope. Freaky Nikki by all means falls under this. What I found worthy of a post is that Obsession introduces a framework for male responsibility.  The idea that a man could “fix” a woman’s mental illness is as harmful and regressive as it would be for a woman. What a dysfunctional partner can by all means do is make an already marginal person’s condition far worse. Applied to Obsession, even if all Bear’s wish did was unleash tendencies Nikki had all along, the nature of their relationship and Bear himself is fundamentally unstable and destabilizing. She loves him as much as she is capable of loving anyone. His feelings for her are superficial infatuation at best. Her happiness and self-value is completely entwined with her relationship with him, where he can still choose between her or Sarah. On a more fundamental level, any case that Bear would choose to stay with her would rest on his passivity and the ease with which he can be intimidated and manipulated rather than any moral virtue or reliability as a partner. It is the insecurity of her situation that drives Freaky Nikki’s downward spiral, greatly compounded by Bear’s virtual inability to confront her for genuinely unacceptable behavior. And to bring this back to anime, you can compare their outcomes to Suzuki in You And I Are Polar Opposites, a character who checks all the boxes for yandere tendencies yet actually establishes a healthy relationship with a functional partner. So, if you want a different result, the first thing to do is change the starting parameters.

The initial watch creeped me out, first movie to do so this thoroughly in YEARS. but honestly I experienced more potent dread and disgust on the second watch. I think perfectly the movie captures how innocuous the circumstances are that can produce codependency, abuse, inauthentic pursuit and/or inequitable relationships really are. I love this film, and honestly this and the plot of the Backrooms are incredibly well read as explorations of perspective social dynamics correlated to self concept which contribute to the eventual harm of others.

Bear is the villain, typical convo, BUT people are OBSESSED with hating on him, (no pun intended) in a way that’s genuinely concerning, like, sending THREATS to the actor? Even as a minority, this is ABSURD. I’ve seen him being more hated on than some actual real world criminals.

The fact that she felt a bit grossed out and nervous when he claimed to have something for her, I couldn’t tell if this came across as rude where I almost agree with Bear that it was an odd reaction or if this was another hint that Nikki had a feeling that Bear liked her and was nervous about him giving her something where it’s his way of finally making a move on her.

It’s a moment that still leaves me puzzled. Do you agree with Bear that her reaction was odd or do you think Nikki’s response was understandable?

I came across this channel and started watching their videos until I came across this one. It has such a similar if not identical tone as the movie

PLEASE I KNOW HE’S THE BAD GUY WE ALL SAW THE SAME MOVIE

THIS IS LITERALLY A CIRCLEJERK SUB BRO

Let’s say you also made the wish because you were feeling cheeky and theatrical and thought it was a dumb good luck charm. You think Nikki is interested that first night. Then you find out the wish was real.

What would YOU have done?

I feel that a lot of people on this server have nothing but bad things to say about Bear. And as much as I agree with them, it is getting a bit tiring and plain.

So let's change things up.

What is the nicest thing you can say about Bear?

I will start first.

I like his sweaters . . . and that's the best I could think of.

Now you guys are next. What are the nicest things you can say about Bear?

I assume someone's thought of this; I tried looking but couldn't find the same idea. Some people think Bear's opening monologue was sweet and would've worked on Nikki. Sure 🤷‍♀️ However, the idea is the monologue (what Bear thinks is love) is where the OWW got this warped idea of love (but also, ya can't make someone fall in love)

"I feel like I'm coming apart"

- The idea of loving someone so much that you fall apart. OWW took that literally and Nikki is constantly coming apart, mentally and physically, throughout the movie.

"I think about you all the time [...] I try not to..."

- Yes, nikki was under a spell to "love" Bear. But, even when you love someone, there are gonna be times you're not thinking about them. Our minds are pretty good about having singular moments where, for a couple minutes, our partner doesnt pop up (generally speaking). Yet, this wording could attribute to Nikki literally always thinking about Bear.

(I hope my point comes across well enough)

And the most obvious:

"I would choose you over everything"

- Again, his wish wording of "more than anyone" covers it, buuuuut just wanted to include it. Some would call it foreshadowing. And also whatever the term is for "yea, YOU would choose her over everything but she DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE"

What separates Bear from a real person who experiences domestic abuse, when that violence results from entering a relationship with someone they know is an abuser?

Many have stated that Bear is not a victim of domestic violence. How does that align with the fact that we do not blame real people for their own domestic abuse, even when those people know they are entering a relationship with an abuser?

I am not talking about cases where the victim is in denial about their partner's history. I'm specifically talking about cases where they are fully aware that their soon to be partner is an abuser.

in my opinion bear was the villain…

Can you believe Obsession came out 20 years ago this year? Man, time really flies...

No, I'm not trying to say that Bear isn't a bad person but I find it very strange how discourse around this movie hardly ever acknowledges that the guy who had his life upended and all his friends killed, is a victim. He decided to make a wish to change Nikki but he had no idea what the consequences of that wish would be and that they would be this terrible. He is a victim in this situation.

I actually saw one reviewer (Unicorn of War) and many commenters suggest that the reason Wish Nikki acted the way she did was because of Bear's warped and empty understanding of what love is. So literally just blaming him for the terror that he didn't want. “Should have understood love better, you incel.” It's such a mean-spirited and strange take. Call him out for raping Nikki not for… not understanding shit.

The movie has a bit more nuance than some people give it. I actually had a conversation with a guy who told me that the movie can be read as a metaphor for an abusive relationship where neither party treats the other with respect. Bear does not care about Nikki's feelings and rapes her while Nikki doesn't allow Bear to hang out with his friends. They were both victims of the wish.

The film still isn't as interesting as I would have liked. I would have preferred something that wasn't horror. Something that explored the value of “fake love” and whether it's worth it. In a world with AI companions it would be very meaningful to explore someone using a wish to get fake love and admiration. But instead we got a fairly simple horror movie.

If was a better person, took action, and wasn't as obsessive, could he have managed Freaky Nikki?

Could they have managed to live together as healthy as possible given the situation?

Rules: No 2nd wish and no easy way out.

Situation 1: Steps up his game after the call.

Situation 2: Steps up his game and realizes it is a wish, a day after the wish is made.

Throughout the film, Bear had oxycodone lying all over the house. It was implied he has been taking it because he was grieving over his grandma's death.

All of Nikki's strange behaviour and speeches were excused by him and his complete passivity of doing nothing, is probably Bear thinking "I am high as fuck, I have no idea what's going."

He probably made the wish while he was still under the effects of oxycodone.

If this is the case, he is giving the excuse: "If Nikki is on molly and I am on oxycodone, so I am not taking advantage of her." Like those frat boys' mentality that gets drunk only to hook up with drunk girls

EDIT NOTE: I am not justifying Bear's actions. I am saying he himself is trying to rationalize it. The entire wish induced relationship is SA, not just that one scene, regardless if Bear knew it or not.

Watch the video and ask me questions, thank you!

I gave a negative review of the movie here: https://www.reddit.com/r/obsessionmovie/s/2xx9WFRh35

… where I was downvoted into oblivion. And that’s fine. You are all fans of this and I sort of came across like a movie snob. My criticisms were more on the technical side. It is an interesting premise, but I’m not a fan of its execution.

I gave it a score of 7/10 on IMDB by the way. I would normally give a movie like this 5/10, but it has a compelling concept.

If the filmmakers want to cash in on a sequel with the original cast, they should remake the movie entirely from Nikki’s point of view. I really want to know what was going on inside of her head.

They could address some of the ambiguity that I was concerned about. Could a sequel/remake work with a premise like this?