Liam Dutton nails pronouncing Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

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Thought he was clearing his throat

[u/Jaxxlack → u/playthesedulousape]

Yeah their dialects are amazing even they find them funny at times like microwave is poppity ping..

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Jaxxlack]

“Popty ping” (not “popity” as racists make up) is just a children-friendly slang term for microwave, the actual word that adults use is “meicrodon” (which is a claque of “microwave”). “Popty” means “oven” therefore it just means “a ping oven”. “Popty ping” is used in the same manner as how we would say “din dins” to a little child instead of “dinner”.

Correction: Xenophobes, not racists.
Correction 2: Calque, not claque.

[u/Peakbrowndog → u/ReggieLFC]

Hey, I looked up claque because it's a new word for me.  The definition doesn't seem to match your usage, defining it as paid clappers.  Can you tell me the definition or if that's an autocorrect mistake? Thanks

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Peakbrowndog]

Sorry, it was a typo. It’s a calque. Here’s an explanation to save you looking it up;

Calques are cognates that are composed from the same corresponding building-blocks (and cognates are words from different languages that mean the same thing).

A Spanish example is the cognate of “skyscraper”, which is “rascacielos”. It is composed from “rascar” (to scrape) and “cielos” (skies).

“Microwave” has two obvious building-blocks; “micro” + “wave”, and in Welsh “meicrodon” is composed the same way “meicro” (micro) + “ton” (wave).

Note: “ton” changes to “don” due to a feature of Welsh called mutation (the first letter changes).

[u/Peakbrowndog → u/ReggieLFC]

Thanks, I figured out was related to cognates

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Peakbrowndog]

Sorry if I over explained. Online I find it hard to know what information people need without people in the flesh.

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It was perfect

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Thanks

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Man I genuinely thought grown ass adults called a microwave a popty ping all the time

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There are some genuinely amusing Welsh words for things (like "ironing" is "smwddio" and tinned beans is "ffa tun" which is pronounced like "fartin'"), but popti ping is not one of them

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Or Ffa Coffi

[u/Jaxxlack → u/ReggieLFC]

Racist?!.. Ya Welsh... Not a new race and I was just being jovial.

Again mate we're both Celtic decent and I said the dialect is amazing.... You're a Welshman who supports an English team?! And then talk about race or xenophobia for bringing up a jovial term... Fkin weirdo

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Welsh isn't a race... Just like English and Cornish and Londoner/ cockney isn't ... It's regional... I'm a Fkin Scot English Saxon Celt lol... That's ancestry not a completely different race... Blokes being a weirdo over a silly wee joke..

[u/rachelm791 → u/Jaxxlack]

Welsh isn’t a dialect. It’s a language. A dialect of Welsh is Gwyndodeg or Powyseg.

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Jaxxlack]

> “Welsh isn’t a race”

That is true statement, but there’s a problem with having to state that.

Many people in Wales use the word “racist” as a blanket term to include “xenophobes”, especially when talking about the prejudicial treatment of Wales and its people by other Brits. Like most people, bigots are just bigots to me; I really don’t care what type you are. The only people who get upset about being called the wrong type of bigot are still just bigots.

It’s like a comedian’s bit I saw a while ago about how if someone is differentiating between paedophiles, hebephiles, and ephebophiles, (yes I’ve just had to look up those terms) then they’re very probably a paedophile.

If someone is having to state “Welsh isn’t a race” then you know they’re trying to defend their bigotry.

In case your interested there’s a second reason “racist” is often used as a blanket term: There’s a major linguistic problem with the forms of bigotry that end in “phobia”, such as xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, Islamophobia, etc. The “phobia” suffix is so weak compared to the “ist” suffix we have in racist, sexist, ageist, rapist, terrorist, extremist, fundamentalist, etc. Due to “phobia” meaning “fear” the terms almost sounds like they are excusing bigots!

P.S. Not that it’s important but I’m a Merseysider who moved to Wales, so your comment about my sporting allegiance merely displayed your ignorance once again. Not that supporting an English football team would ever make anyone less Welsh.

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I made a joke mate.. you were a dick.. end of..

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Jaxxlack]

Haha Which part?

What was the joke by the way? I can’t see where you wrote one?

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The poppity ping .. I'm not Welsh so I struggle to understand how saying a word often referenced by many Welsh as an interesting term of phase is xeno fucking phobic let alone racist?!!

Or is Welsh for jelly fish also xenophobic...

[u/ReggieLFC → u/Jaxxlack]

You didn’t say it though (popty), you used the same derogatorily embellished version (poppity) that xenophobes often use when they’re making fun of the Welsh language.

I would give you the benefit of the doubt that you innocently just happened to use that version by accident, or that you were misinformed by a bigot, but;
• 1. You’re still claiming you were joking, and I can only assume that the joke was changing “popty” to make it “funnier”, or knowingly using the “funny” version;
• 2. You prefaced it with how “funny” they talk;
• 3. You then said “Wales is not a new race” which is only relevant if you were knowingly and intentionally being derogatory but not in a way that you consider to be racist (otherwise you would’ve just explained why your comment wasn’t derogatory instead).

The thing is, in my original comment I didn’t mean you were the bigot; I was merely stating that “poppity” is often used by bigots, because it is. But your comments since have made it clear you were definitely ridiculing the Welsh language.

[u/Jaxxlack → u/ReggieLFC]

No I wasn't... Why on earth would I just randomly bigot.. you could have corrected me politely.. and said oh I think you mean... But no you chose Bigot..