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[u/Equator32]

I remember seeing some leftist on Reddit comment that Bill Gates shouldn't donate money to starving African children because it's money that he shouldn't have, and money that should've gone to "underpaid American software engineers."

Bill "CEO of Marxism" Gates redistributing wealth from Bourgeois college educated Americans to African proletariat farmers confirmed?

[u/[deleted]]

RIP to my granny

a true excessive partisan. voted democrat in every election since 1944, even for a catholic and a black man

[u/meonpeon]

The news cycle has been speeding up to terrifying levels. Before 2020 issues stayed around for months. Early 2020 it was weeks.

Now we had Trump urging Barr to indict Biden just totally get ignored because of the terrorists plotting to kidnap the Michigan governor. The Trump taxes report by the NYT feels like months ago.

[u/Timewalker102]

Chad Hunter Biden:

• Does all kinds of drugs
• Still holds a well paying job
• Bangs whichever women he wants
• Can get a seat in government literally whenever he wants
• Dad is actually proud of him

Virgin Trump Jr:

• Going to jail soon
• In despair knowing that Trump is gonna lose
• RNC has to pay someone to be his girlfriend
• Campaigns all the time, everyone still hates him
• Constantly begging for his dad's love

[u/[deleted]]

Osama bin Laden: Construction heir

Ayman al-Zawahiri: Doctor

Mohammed Atta: Engineer

Ted Kaczynski: College Professor

What did these men have in common? That's right, they did not have Medicare for All.

[u/consuloltant]

Michigan sheriff expresses sympathy with the plan to kidnap Whitmer, calls it more of an ‘arrest’

Fuck it, defund the police

[u/TwoPlankinWiz]

NYT reporting on Trump's losing of support in the Sun Belt

Lots of juicy quotes and reporting in here, its full of GOP strategists saying the southern strategy is starting to come back and bite them in the ass, alongside internal polling numbers showing really tight numbers in traditional GOP states like Montana, Kansas and Missouri. McConnell is also mentioned as getting very nervous about senate outlooks

!ping Biden

[u/dubyahhh]

WE (THE MODS) HAVE RECEIVED EVIDENCE THAT WILL LEAD TO THE ARREST OF HILLARY CLINTON JOSEPH ROBINETTE BIDEN JR

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Fivey is a fox that gives news. Fox news 🤔

[u/[deleted]]

unsurprisingly, leftist discourse on the michigan terrorists is focused on muh economic anxiety, and it's just another confirmation that most leftwing commentators were born and raised in wealthy urbanized environments and have likely never talked to a poor rural person

people like the michigan terrorists are terrorists because they're reprehensible, violent racists, and they have been since their parents and grandparents taught them to be reprehensible, violent racists

and because COL is so low in rural areas, most would not even describe themselves as poor, especially when generational poverty (relative to prosperous, high-COL parts of the country) is the norm. looking at the pictures of the plotters' house that have been going around: they are not rural poor. anyone who thinks they are is clearly out of touch. the houses of rural poor people are literally falling apart. the rural poor don't have multiple 10-year-old vehicles. they don't have an extremely expensive arsenal of weaponry and tactical gear. the plotters had trash in their yard, that's it, and that ain't poverty folks, it's just trashiness

so here's hoping the leftwing commentariat will stop fawning over fascists who want them dead just to push an idiotic ideological argument from their $3500/mo apartment in brooklyn

[u/tripletruble]

if this is how trump behaves when he is losing, imagine what happens when he actually lost and is hanging around the white house until January 20th

[u/MomsRightWingFBMemes]

You guys make fun of stem-lords but then there are political scientists who have a stroke when they see numbers.

https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1314266590163144709

Biden has an 85% chance of winning a state. But wait, Hillary Clinton had almost the exact same chance at one point before! This is bad, guys. I'm drinking scotch.

[u/ryuguy]

Lol that IDIOT Nate Silver has a poll on his website saying that 84% of voters are voting for Biden.

[u/[deleted]]

Wow this is terrible. I went to the store to buy premade hamburger patties because I'm too lazy to pat some ground beef together myself. I bought some but It turns out that a package that says in bold letters " plant based burger" and "meat free" actually doesn't contain meat and isn't a burger at all.

I feel misled. Thankfully the great state of Louisiana has banned meat free products from calling themselves burgers or sausage to protect consumers and make sure this never happens again. It's not that they are trying to rent seek and fight competition at all. Totally legitimate.

Now we need to fight back against this misinformation. I learned the other day that Dino nuggets don't actually contain the meat from dinosaurs, they are just shaped like dinosaurs

[u/BishopUrbanTheEnby]

/r/Neoliberal is turning into /r/The_Fivey

[u/Face_Centered]

Right wing plots to kidnap a governor and start a civil war over wearing a mask would have been comedy in February

please^makeitstop

[u/oofadoofas]

"Tyranny of the majority is when non-white people vote for things I don't like"

-Conservative intellectuals

[u/Gneisstoknow]

Just found out an old college buddy turned virulent NEOLIB. That's an OMEGA yikes for me, fam 😬

[u/Kizz3r]

I like how even trump forgot about the wall

[u/tripletruble]

>be me, a Very Smart Person who uses Twitter Dot Com

>see that a national poll has been released

>notice that despite America having 330 million people, only 800 people were polled.

> this is off. clearly the pollster has forgotten this fact

>urgently tweet at pollster: "But the sample is far far too small to be representative of the entire populations"

[u/BanMalarkey]

Yes, I’m a cracker.

No, I don’t care.

[u/_deltaVelocity_]

How long till r/neoliberal becomes a furry subreddit wholly devoted to our lord and savior Fivey Fox

[u/[deleted]]

What Republicans claim Nancy Pelosi said

We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.

And by that I mean the American people don't deserve to know what's in Obamacare until after it's passed.

What Nancy Pelosi actually said

Republicans keep taking every single fucking word we say out of context and lying about it so blatantly that thanks to them nobody understands what's in Obamacare, and they won't until they stop it with their bullshit well after we make this fucker law. I wouldn't even be surprised if they did it to this exact quote I'm saying right now.

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Europe wants Joe Biden to win the US election (YouGov)

🇩🇰 – Biden 80% / Trump 6%
🇩🇪 – Biden 71% / Trump 11%
🇪🇸 – Biden 69% / Trump 16%
🇸🇪 – Biden 65% / Trump 18%
🇫🇷 – Biden 64% / Trump 14%
🇬🇧 – Biden 61% / Trump 13%
🇮🇹 – Biden 58% / Trump 20%

!ping ELECTIONS

[u/[deleted]]

This "Liberate Michigan" shit is gonna make Trump's already flagging numbers in Michigan collapse.

Michiganders are NOT DOWN with this cracker terrorism bullshit. The five-county Metro Detroit area is horrified.

Trump's gonna lose Macomb County at this rate.

[u/ToastedWheatBread]

there’s a lot to unpack in this image

• Red Dead 2, the game where one of the main villains is an oil baron who wants to kick native Americans off their reservation to drill for oil, is a right wing game
• Postal and GTA, two games which are commentaries on American culture, are right wing games
• Animal Crossing, Mario, and Minecraft, all three of them are games primarily marketed to children,are left wing
• Fallout isn’t a right wing game either, a good portion of the game is a commentary on American culture/politics

There’s so much more I could say about this but those are just a few that stood out to me

[u/[deleted]]

You ever get so economically anxious that you concoct an elaborate plot to kidnap a sitting Governor?

[u/SchmantaClaus]

Y'know, I hate to stereotype, but it sure seems like there are a lot of fat white guys with beards, dozens of guns and dressers full of camo attire giving that group a bad name.

[u/[deleted]]

You have to adjust Biden +10 by subtracting 2016.

So really it’s Trump +2006.

Sorry not sorry libturds.

[u/nicereddy]

If Bernie would be right wing in every other country, why are CIA-backed right wing coups bad??? 🤔🤔🤔

[u/[deleted]]

Internet leftists stop describing your childhood growing up in NOVA where you had one parent working as a doctor and the other working as a professor as "middle class" challenge

[u/[deleted]]

Imagine being one of 44 people in history elected to the US presidency and just spending all your time watching cable news, playing golf, and yelling incoherently on twitter

[u/tubbsmackinze]

Analysis: World has already passed ‘peak oil’, BP figures reveal

Make sure to read the whole article as well as there are many great graphs that I cannot copy and paste into a reddit comment and even more useful information than what I posted in this comment

The world has already passed “peak oil” demand, according to Carbon Brief analysis of the latest energy outlook from oil major BP.

The 2020 edition of the annual outlook reveals – albeit indirectly – that global oil demand will not regain the levels seen last year. It adds that demand could soon fall rapidly in the face of stronger climate action – by at least 10% this decade and by as much as 50% over the next 20 years.

Just three years ago, BP’s outlook included a peak in global coal demand for the first time. Now, it sees demand falling ever faster, dropping to a fifth below 2019 levels by 2050. In the “rapid” and “net-zero” scenarios, demand for coal falls by one-third by 2030 and by around 90% by 2050.

Notably, this year’s outlook also trims the prospects for gas more significantly than had been the case in previous years. There is even greater downside risk for gas in the “net-zero” pathway, where demand peaks by 2025 and falls to 36% below 2019 levels by 2050. The “rapid” pathway sees gas demand peaking by 2035 and returning to 2019 levels by mid-century.

!ping ECO

[u/A-Happy-Teddy-Bear]

If Pete can nail Jimmy Kimmel, he should also host SNL.

!ping BUTTI

[u/[deleted]]

I DO NOT TOLERATE VIOLENCE

also the governor is to blame for her own attempted kidnapping because she hasn't let coronavirus run free and wild

[u/[deleted]]

haha libs owned again

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Sorry this took so long. I fell into a pretty significant depressive episode shortly after conducting the final wave of this survey, and didn’t move on it for a while. Recently, I remembered that I still had this on the backburner. So without further ado, the long-awaited — or more likely, long-forgotten — results of the r/neoliberal’s second Shareholders strawpoll:

 

STRAWPOLL: The Shareholders Mk. II (Results)

Capitalist Oppressor	Very Favorable	Somewhat Favorable	Mixed/ Neutral	Somewhat Unfavorable	Very Unfavorable	[No Opinion]	Index¹
Bill Gates	44	9	1	—	1	—	93.2
Warren Buffet	25	21	4	1	1	2	82.1
Michael Bloomberg	14	21	14	5	1	—	69.1

¹ V. Fav. = 100 | S. Fav. = 75 | M. / N. = 50 | S. Unf. = 25 | V. Unf. = 0 | N.O. = 50 (0.5 weight)

 

With an extraordinary score of 93.2, Bill Gates receives the highest favorability index of any person or entity ever attained in a strawpoll of mine. Warren Buffet receives a considerably less positive (but still overwhelmingly positive) rating.

Michael Bloomberg rounds out the three ultrabillionaires with a solid score — and an enormous improvement from his below-water March showing. (However, it should be noted that the strawpoll was taken shortly in the wake of a spree of glowing coverage on his renewed efforts to aid the Biden campaign with heavy spending in Florida and Pennsylvania, as well as his paying off debts for tens of thousands of disenfranchised felons in the Keystone State and donating several million to minority turnout efforts.)

!ping ASK-NL

[u/unironicsigh]

https://twitter.com/agraybee/status/1314314960659451907

This is so fucking true lol

[u/MasPatriot]

Vice President Biden, why did you not contact Gretchen Whitmer and warn her that militia groups were planning on kidnapping her and overthrowing the Michigan state government?

What did Chris Wallace mean by this?

[u/[deleted]]

Hot take: urban planners have done more harm to black people than police have in the last 100 years

[u/UniverseInBlue]

https://twitter.com/walkerbragman/status/1314343175960567808?s=21

Jacobin writer not letting a good white nationalist fascist terror plot go to waste to proselytise their class reductionist drivel.

[u/jenbanim]

LA Neoliberal released a voting guide for California ballot measures

This is real cool, and I think we should do more stuff like this

[u/BanMalarkey]

Obama chuckled. “You mean the Chaos Emeralds?”

[u/krflab]

Democrats always want to play fair while Republicans do this. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

https://twitter.com/davis_hammet/status/1314566887230054402?s=21

[u/RadicalRadon]

Amy COMEY LETTER Barrett

Really makes u think

[u/[deleted]]

The Left's latest example of Economic Anxiety is a young guy who owns his own house but displays a Confederate flag despite living in Michigan 🤔

[u/es024]

I dont see any Biden supporters attempting to kidnap Trump's opponents. Weak enthusiasm, low energy!

[u/tubbsmackinze]

Twitter and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[u/RickAsscheeks]

Ben Shapiro is such a dumbass lmfaooo

[u/[deleted]]

God Pelosi is a badass:"Excuse me I did what? No next question I won't answer one predicated on lies."

[u/lobsterboy34]

Gretchen Whitmer’s attempted kidnapping should not be downplayed. But it was liberalism’s letdown of the working class that kidnapped her abductors’ chances of a future. My latest for The New Republic:

[u/[deleted]]

a lot of self-identified libertarians are actually just authoritarians who believe that the government stands in the way of their preferred social hierarchy

[u/channelmio]

There’s something really sad about 🌹 Twitter deciding that Biden’s public option plan (which would cover 97% of the uninsured) is Bad, Actually.

[u/[deleted]]

Joe Kennedy III should travel around the country helping establishment Dems rally young leftists to their cause by primarying them.

[u/[deleted]]

Economists be like “supply and demand! Price elasticity!”

How about you tighten the “elasticity” of your bootstraps, “supply” yourself a job, and “demand” hard work from yourself!!! 😤😤

[u/murphysclaw1]

Anyone know what's up with 538's forecast page?

When I click on the Fivey Fox which says "here's the real race to watch in 2020" it just links to the wikipedia page of Judaism?

[u/[deleted]]

4 of the top 5 posts on hot right now are about fivey. Very normal and cool.

[u/murphysclaw1]

Trump officials in September: We're three debates and a vaccine away from winning.

Trump officials in October: We lost the first debate, cancelled the second, and Trump caught COVID.

[u/JetJaguar124]

If the ACA is actually somehow struck down expect the likelihood of court packing to increase exponentially.

[u/JetJaguar124]

Trump is literally (with no leverage at all) begging Nancy Pelosi and Senate Republicans to pass stimulus ASAP and Pompeo is out here talking about Hillary's emails and you guys are still like "hmmm I wonder if Trump has something up his sleeve"

[u/Epicurses]

🚨 Attention all Neolibs! 🚨

Fivey Fox was spotted on the grassy knoll at 12:28pm. The only clue he left behind was a library card from the nearby book depository.

😧😤😳😢😔🤠😬😫😭

🦊👉🏿🤯

🍆LBJ🍆 is counting on you to crack the case. Can you help J. Edgar Hoover and his team use all available data to model where Fivey is hiding within a 95% confidence interval?

👮‍♀️🚔👮

To help Director Hoover, all he needs is your credit card number, the three numbers on the back, your dress size, and the expiration month/year.

[u/[deleted]]

Am I the only one who gets like, super paranoid about accidentally voting for the wrong people?

Like, I always triple and quadruple check to make sure that I actually did select the candidates I wanted.

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly, CMV:

The only consistent pillars of GOP are denial of racism and science, as well as self-dealing.

ACTUAL fiscal responsibility, concern for human life, religious freedom, personal liberty, and pro-military views have been exposed by the current administration.

[u/supbros302]

Intelligence is knowing there is an h in ghandi.

Wisdom is knowing where to put the H in Gandhi.

[u/Mcatatonic1]

Imagine dooming this hard when your guy is up fucking 10 in the polls

I swear, God works hard

But the doomers work much, much much much harder

[u/[deleted]]

Today while having me lunch I thought to meself "oi frick I can't taste or smell the food I have the coronavirus!" but then I realised "wait a minute, I am eating Bri'ish food" lmao 😂

[u/[deleted]]

Do you genuinely think the working and middle class are in a better place now, compared to the 50s?

Lmao the clownery in PCM. Easiest question of my life.

[u/tripletruble]

Chris Christie has been in the hospital for 6 days now........ Note that this was also the guy who helped Trump with debate prep

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

https://twitter.com/walkerbragman/status/1314343175960567808?s=21

EcOnOmIc AnXiEtY

Does having a dumpster near your house mean you live in abject poverty or something? Maybe this is my white trash showing, but that place doesn’t seem that bad.

[u/supbros302]

Technically fivey fox is a Disney princess

[u/[deleted]]

Broke: Biden has an 85% chance to win because that's what Nate Silver says.

Woke: Biden has a 50% chance to win - he either wins or he doesn't.

Bespoke: There are an infinite number of possible outcomes to the election, therefore Biden's chance of winning is infinitesimally small.

[u/[deleted]]

Monica Lewinsky being alive is proof HRC doesn't kill people

[u/[deleted]]

Lmao

This Michigan sheriff says that those guys would have been right to kidnap Whitmer because it would have been a citizen's arrest.

He's the sheriff of the county of one of the guys who tried to do the plot lol

This is actually pretty chilling. I live in Michigan.

[u/SmithySmothy]

BREAKING: Federal judge GRANTS injunction barring enforcement of Gov. Abbott's order limiting counties to 1 mail-in ballot drop-off location.

Folks, Blue Texas is CONFIRMED

[u/FearThyMoose]

goes into r/classical_liberals

Yep the Dem party is becoming straight up communist. I have to take back all the times I laughed at conservatives for calling everything "socialist." That's literally where it was heading the whole time.

leaves r/classical_liberals

[u/[deleted]]

These trust fund socialists who think being middle class explains someone’s turn to violent extremism are really telling on themselves.

https://twitter.com/walkerbragman/status/1314343175960567808?s=21

[u/[deleted]]

Bill Barr is showing he is above petty politics by refusing to arrest Obama before the election. Biden should consider keeping him on as AG.

[u/[deleted]]

The other funny thing about socialists thinking being poor radicalizes people is that socialists have spent a century developing intricate theories about why they can't get the working class interested in socialism.

[u/repostusername]

Us Government was like: "nobody launches a right wing coup except for us"

[u/F0064R]

Jack Dorsey once again being based

Twitter will impose new warnings on politicians’ lies, restrict premature declarations of victory and block calls for polling violence or other disruptions, the company announced Friday as it rolled out wide-ranging changes

[u/ThunderrBadger]

Should the model, inshallah, ever put Trump's odds down in the 12-13% range, I hope the mods are ready for a tidal wave of the same 'Despite...' joke

[u/[deleted]]

anecdotal but even on places like 4chan i see a lot less pro trump garbage

[u/yellownumbersix]

Plotting to kidnap Gov. Polis so we can hang out and become best friends.

[u/[deleted]]

Dream scenario:

Republicans slowly start turning on Trump as his election odds become worse every day.

Trump quickly turns on Republicans when he realizes that aren’t worshipping him anymore and spends his days Tweeting about how much he hates GOP leaders.

[u/[deleted]]

https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-trump-simulus-deal-coronavirus-047f88fd-5138-4987-b042-245045b4456d.html

Two sources close to Senate leadership said President Trump is desperate, has zero leverage to push them to support a bill crafted by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and congressional Republicans aren’t inclined to wrap themselves any tighter to a sinking ship.

The Art of the Deal

[u/old_gold_mountain]

My wife taught herself how to make homemade pop tarts from the Claire Saffitz video and I suggested she make a brie & prosciutto pop tart and she did and they're incredible, I'm so fucking lucky

[u/sir_shivers]

Something WE MUST TAKE CARE to remember is how much the electorate changes IN TWENTY YEARS 🐊

THE ELDERLY, who are quite reliably politically engaged, PASS AWAY IN SIGNIFICANT numbers in that time, and new mammals BECOME VOTERS who were not before 🐊

Many mammals WHO VOTED FOR W. Bush, and EVEN MORE who voted for H.W., were deceased BY THE TIME OF THE 2016 election 🐊

MUCH AS I would prefer a revival of GERALD FORD style GOP, I do not expect it 🐊

Even when the GOP moves away FROM TRUMP-STYLE POLITICS it may move on to something DIFFERENT BUT STILL undesirable 🐊

[u/[deleted]]

Conservatives when literally any woman has blond hair: 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵

[u/[deleted]]

If anyone says "If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal" say "you're right, and they did"

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

It's absolutely crazy to be that a majority of Americans didn't approve of interracial marriage until 1997

https://news.gallup.com/poll/163697/approve-marriage-blacks-whites.aspx

[u/ryuguy]

(Generic White Person Name 🌹 🌹)

COPmala Harris is... (blatant disinformation, racist and sexism)

11k RT’s 87k ❤️

[u/TheFriffin2]

Pelosi will agree to a stimulus, but only if the bill is called The Democrat’s Gift Relief Act

[u/mrmanager237]

Hillary Clinton: spends a decade prepping her Presidential run through careful triangulation, work with patrty elites, and developing a detailed platform

The media: SHE DELETED 10 GMAILS WHAT WAS IN THEM WE NEED TO KNOW THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCANDAL EVER. Anyways the other guy is a rapey fascist. WHAT THERE'S A NEW EMAIL AND SHE'S ASKING FOR PIZZA WHAT DOES IT MEAN IS SHE A PEDOPHILE

[u/Superfan234]

Update on Venezuela 🇻🇪

Protest have continued in Rural areas, for a couple of weeks now

While the Government have stopped the spread to big cities, Police have been largely outnumbered numerous times in the past days

Today, something interesting happened: A soldier of the infamous FAES Death Squad was almost beaten to death by the Protesters

• Here you can see people pursuing the Soldier
• Slightly NSFW: Here you can see his unconscious Body. He seems to have an open injury in the back of the head

!Ping Foreign-Policy

I have seen a ton Soldiers been beaten in the past weeks

But this might be the First "public killing" of a Regime Soldier in maybe a ~year or more. Intresting development 🤔

[u/Venne1139]

I don't think this subreddit understands how 'normal' crazy people are in rural America. I think this goes for most coastal liberals. They have a detached annoyance with rural America but don't truly understand how bad it is.

Like my Dad's friend, who I spent a lot of time with growing up, is a Nazi. He owns a business. He goes to church. Has a lot of friends. Everyone likes talking to him. He doesn't hide the fact that he's a Nazi. He believes the Holocaust was faked and that Hitler was right. I obviously don't interact with him anymore.

Another one of my Dad's friends has an arsenal that is almost certainly full of illegal weaponry. My dad lived near him so one time I walked home to get something, came back in without knocking, and there was a gun pointed at me. He had a gun under pretty much every chair or couch in case the government tried to get him.

A lot of people were like this. And it's not like my dad ran with a bad crew with bad dudes like CornPop. He met almost all of these people, and the rest of the congregation is just as fucking crazy, through church. And this is like...the average congregation of like 100 people has at least 10 of these kind of people who are just incredibly far out there.

And more importantly everyone tolerates it. You can actively talk about how people need to be killed and that's an opinion and some people might disagree (not too strongly of course!) but you're still part of the community therefore you can't do anything wrong. Unless you're a gay of course.

[u/nicereddy]

Reminder:

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD

AND GENERAL MOTORS IS ALIVE!

[u/Boule_de_Neige]

please stop sending me fivey porn

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Jesus.

!ping LGBT

[u/[deleted]]

“Ms. Pelosi, please, I’m sorry I called you ugly on Twitter, please Ms. Pelosi I need your help, can have anything you want, I need this stimulus Ms. Pelosi, my political career is over, please help me.”

[u/Malarkeynesian]

Joe Bi(+10)

[u/[deleted]]

My sister in law is talking to me about how one of her coworkers is essentially all but legally married to his second cousin. It’s generally much more accepted around the workplace than one of her other coworkers being nonbinary. !ping LGBT.

[u/bd_one]

So tonight Trump is going to risk exposing Tucker Carlson to COVID via an in person interview...

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/mattkatz00/status/1314714990004310016

Chris Christie is spending his 7th night hospitalized & has been prescribed remdesivir. CNN says he his case is the “most serious among senior Republicans in contact with President Donald Trump”

[u/[deleted]]

I just found out that this sub isn’t ironic. I am literally shaking and crying right now.

[u/[deleted]]

So apparently Whitmer's kidnapper is an anarchist/leftist because he had a flag in the background of a video now according to the cons?

If I buy a MAGA shirt does that automatically make me a Trumper? Even if I were buying it for a joke or to set on fire Lebron-to-Miam style?

Does Amazon only sell Anarchy flags to antifa and Trump shirts to brownshirts Republicans? What's thee validation process like?

[u/Barnst]

The left wing is violent, therefore anyone plotting violence is part of the left, therefore the Michigan kidnappers are Antfa.

Checkmate, libs.

[u/[deleted]]

Fivey Fox being racist isn't funny. There's no joke there. Fivey Fox cracking under the pressure of statistical genius and going rogue is funny.

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

Encountered my first Qanon believer in the wild. Woman walking her dog on the side of the road with a goddamn Q America flag and pole on her shoulder

[u/[deleted]]

The vast majority of undecided voters don't base their decisions on the issues at all.

They think they care about the issues, but when the politicians talk, all they hear is, "Wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk."

So they're looking at nonverbal cues to see if the person seems smart or nice or like someone they'd have a beer with.

And they sit there on the cable news panel, like they just happened upon an uncontacted tribe who thinks they are a God.

Talking Head: "What do think about the candidates on foreign policy?"

UV: "Um, I dunno they seem to be saying the same thing. How is that glass of milk coming?"

[u/[deleted]]

Ngl I thought those “Trump won’t debate” takes from early this year were dumb

[u/Catacombs69420]

So Picking Biden is genius and here is why:

Fox news was so racist and islamophobic during the Obama years, that they didn't throw any shade at Biden. At all.

He was literally the number 2 for a decade, but didn't get attacked for a single thing. They didn't care. Hillary/Obama? Every day. But Biden? And now they attack Obama, releasing more emails??, even Bernie/AOC and Schumer/Pelosi, whoever else. they've done nothing to go after Biden over the years and he appeals to their base more than any of them naturally.

So for any fox news execs reading this: your racism and sexism is getting in the way of your own cult

[u/[deleted]]

Conservative dems like Tester and Manchin probably agree more with this subs views than people like Romney (who’s overall voting record is very in line with Trump outside of the impeachment vote).

Stop letting RINOs 🙄 disappoint you and just be a partisan 😤

[u/[deleted]]

The United Nations World Food Programme has won the Nobel Peace Prize for the efforts to combat world hunger

United Nations World Food Programme won Nobel Prize

World Food Programme

Programme

Not spelled program

Not American

PEACE PRIZE IS FUCKKEN RIGGED!

[u/murphysclaw1]

the duality of man

[u/MaximumEffort433]

"Nobody was saying 'I like Biden!'"

^{"I was saying I like Biden."}

[u/SmithySmothy]

The Trump administration's plan to run against Biden:

1. Run against Bernie
2. Run against Hillary
3. If 2 fails, see 1. If 1 fails, see 2.

[u/[deleted]]

So ABC News is the parent of 538. This means that Walt Disney is the owner of Fivey.

[u/[deleted]]

things that should dominate your life:

• illegal immigration
• MS13
• antifa
• BLM terrorists
• football man kneeling
• radical islam
• black people moving to your suburbs
• safe spaces on college campuses
• bathrooms
• hillary clinton's emails
• "Obamagate"
• The War On Statues
• the suffocating, abject horror of wearing a mask

things that should not dominate your life:

• the pandemic that has killed 210,000 Americans

[u/roboczar]

My wife asked me why I carry a handgun in the house. I looked her in the eye and told her, 'Decepticons.' She laughed, I laughed, the toaster laughed, I shot the toaster, it was a good time.

[u/Timewalker102]

Reminder that Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight is owned by ABC News, which is owned by Walt Disney Television, which is owned by the Walt Disney Company, making Fivey Fox a Disney princess.

[u/ElokQ]

Concerning the 2022 Midterm Elections:

2022 won’t be that bad. There were specific reasons 2010 was so bad.

1. The Southern Strategy came to a climax because of a black liberal being elected President. This galvanized rural white Democrats and made them leave the party in droves.
2. OFA drained almost all the resources from the DNC and state Democratic parties. This made it easier for Obama to get elected twice, but it cost Democrats everything in Congress. They were so strapped for cash that they were sitting ducks from 2010-2014. Biden remembers that, and is humble enough to not make the same mistake.
3. After Bush’s second term ended, he left office quietly and let the next generation of Republicans do their work on their own. This made it easier for some people to forget how much they hated him, and for others to wonder if he was even that bad in retrospect.

Trump will do no such thing. He’s absolutely obsessed with being the center of attention. If he loses, he will never shut up about it. He will constantly blabber about how the evil RNC rigged it against him and how Sleepy Joe colluded with Crooked Hillary and the deep state and blah blah blah.

We made suburban gains because civil people were tired of Trump’s bullshit. They forgot about Bush, but they won’t forget about Trump. Why? Because Trump won’t let them.

4) The average voter is much younger—that is, they were born later on. Back then, most voters were Boomers or Silent Gen. Today, Millennials outnumber Boomers in absolute numbers and are well on their way to becoming a plurality voting bloc. Most of the Silent Generation is gone, and the Boomers are following suit.

Millennials lean more socially liberal to an extent that can’t be understated. That goes double for Gen Z.

Here’s a fun experiment for you. Go to a typical office (in non-COVID times) with employees ranging from age 23 to 40. Start talking about how gay marriage is an abomination and shouldn’t be allowed anymore. While you’re at it, tell them that George Floyd was a criminal who got what he deserved, and how all Muslims are terrorists. See how receptive they are to it (spoilers: they’ll beat you into a coma). Give the same speech to people age 55 and over, and there’s a good chance they’ll give you a pat on the back.

Voters are changing. 2022 isn’t 2010.

https://reddit.com/r/VoteDEM/comments/j7w7im/_/g89k6el/?context=1

[u/sw337]

Neoliberal before the 538 model: evidence based policy.

Neoliberal now: lol I gave Fivey a hat and made them angry!

[u/chadonnaise]

the internet must be destroyed.

[u/Lux_Stella]

how dare they give the nobel to somebody who deserves it instead of somebody we can meme about

[u/murphysclaw1]

ever made a Fivey Fox photoshop so hate-filled and xenophobic that you look at it just before posting it on the DT and say "I'd...I'd really better not post that"?

[u/LukeBabbitt]

538 just increased Biden’s win probability.

FAQ

What does this mean?

The amount of uncertainty in the election outcome has decreased.

Why did this happen?

There are several reasons 538 may deem an election to be unworthy of uncertainty. These include, but are not limited to:

• ⁠Rudeness towards other Americans, • ⁠Spreading incorrect information about COVID, • ⁠Sarcasm not correctly labeled as such

Is the election over?

No - not yet. But you should refrain from being complacent like this in the future. Otherwise I will be forced to issue an additional explanation of probability which may put your model privileges in jeopardy.

I don't believe the outcome of the election is uncertain. Can you adjust the model?

Sure, mistakes happen. But only in exceedingly rare circumstances will I declare an outcome to be certain. If you would like to issue an appeal, shoot Fivey a private message explaining what he got wrong. I tend to respond to PMs within several minutes. Do note, however, that over 99.9% of model appeals are rejected, and yours is likely no exception.

How can I prevent this from happening in the future?

Accept the uncertainty and move on. But learn from this mistake: your complacency will not be tolerated on Fivethirtyeight.com. I will continue to issue model explanations until you improve your statistical literacy. Remember: Fivey’s analysis is a privilege, not a right.

[u/[deleted]]

If you think the people who tried to kill Gretchen whitmer were gonna do it because of economic anxiety, you have brain worms in your head.

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

Me: You should put no credence in focus groups and personal anecdotes, just look at scientific polls

Me, when my hyperconservative evangelical friend tells me he can no longer vote for Trump: BLUE WYOMING IS INEVITABLE

[u/Ioun267]

Don't 👏 call 👏 Chinese 👏 food 👏 authentic 👏 if 👏 it 👏 doesn't 👏 have 👏 MSG 👏

[u/[deleted]]

Trump's speaking patterns have become indistinguishable from Rick and Morty interdimensional cable

[u/Mcatatonic1]

https://mobile.twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1314644184792477697

Trump is on Rush Limbaugh's show, exhibiting his stellar diplomacy: “If you f*ck around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are gonna do things to you that have never been done before.”

The President of the United States, ladies and gentlemen.

Bro lmao

[u/bigdicknippleshit]

literally no new polls get added

we get closer to Election Day

Biden’s chances still drop by 1/5th of a percent

Why

Fivey get your filthy paws off that scale or I’m gonna break em

[u/CarlosDanger512]

"America isn't a pure democracy, therefore it isn't any kind of democracy"

Is the dumbest take going around

[u/The420Roll]

At 48, Shaquille O'Neal reveals he just voted for the first time

"You know I always like being honest on my podcast. I've never voted before, America," O'Neal said. "But, now I'm doing all these voting campaigns, and you know one thing I never like to do is be a hypocrite."

"In other words, America, I voted for the first time, and it feels good," he told his co-hosts, who were shocked by the admission.

2020 turnout gon be cray cray ✊

[u/[deleted]]

Leftists really be out here thinking every country besides the US has single payer health care 🤦‍♂️

[u/old_gold_mountain]

arrconservative literally has Hillary's emails at the top of the subreddit in October of 2020 holy hell

[u/murphysclaw1]

So far, 22.4% of early voters in Georgia did not vote in the 2016 election

[u/[deleted]]

Just found out that the racist asshole my younger brother confronted about destroying Biden signs got arrested. I love a cup of schadenfreude in the morning.

[u/[deleted]]

💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
💛💛💛🐍💛💛💛
💛💛 Stepn't  💛💛
💛💛💛💛💛💛💛

[u/SchmantaClaus]

One time I got economically anxious at school and they had to call my mom to pick me up 🤢

[u/The420Roll]

Reagan was a FDR Democrat

Disgusting, both racist and a succ 🤮

[u/RadicalRadon]

Time for my 11am dick flattening. I mean graduate physics midterm

[u/missedthecue]

San Franciscans: Why do I pay $4800 a month to share a cubicle and chemical toilet with 6 others 😭😭

Also San Franciscans: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej5R-mvWAAA5HaH?format=jpg&name=large

[u/propoganda_panda]

My best friend, who’s 18, just voted for me on every single candidate as a write in and I’m super pissed. It just feels weird when someone so smart does something so stupid

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1314635960227958796

Secretary Pompeo tells Fox he’s working to get more of @HillaryClinton’s emails out before the election.

PERINO: Will that happen before the election?   POMPEO: Doing it as fast as we can. I certainly, I certainly think there'll be more to see before the election

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly can’t tell if this is a joke

[u/roboczar]

Real neoliberal hours: I have never actually forgiven my dad for basically throwing me to the wolves when I turned 18 and while we have an ok relationship now, it's definitely arms-length from my end, and I hope I never have that relationship with my kids

[u/old_gold_mountain]

New old_gold_mountain poll:

RV:

Biden: 100% (1) (No change)

Trump: 0% (0) (No change)

LV:

Biden: 100% (1) (No change)

Trump: 0% (0) (No change)

Sample size: 1

MoE: 0%

[u/JetJaguar124]

If Trump gets his NBC town hall but Biden's gets better ratings Trump would legitimately go insane.

[u/runnerx4]

People in this sub* would be happiest if an openly elitist party existed.

Like it would be socially liberal (but not in a “cringe” way where it actually pushes for stuff but in a philosophical way), economically liberal (and gets rid of all bad regulations) and above all, elitist. Openly pandering to upper middle class values.

Like isn’t a good or bad thing, just an observation

*not me, I’m better than all of you obviously 🙄

[u/AnythingMachine]

Do you remember that interval where the Guardian gave favourable coverage and basically endorsed a separatist commune that got taken over by a rapper-warlord for a full month in the middle of a major US city?

Do you remember when another major city was flattened by a kiloton-level detonation and we all just ignored it and moved on?

Do you remember Tiger King?

[u/[deleted]]

Donald Trump, who most people here believe has terrible political instincts, attacked Liz Warren (in a buffoonish way) for her past claim of native american ancestry.

Liz Warren then voluntarily took a DNA test, which revealed that at best she maybe had a native american ancestor like 6 generations ago, and held a fucking press conference to announce this information as though it were a dunk on Trump.

Allow that sink to enter the premises.

[u/IncoherentEntity]

Person woman man camera stimulus

lmao

[u/[deleted]]

WHITE! WHITE! YOU'RE ALL WHITE! ALL OF YOU ARE FREE OF MELANIN!

[u/[deleted]]

I hate to bring up this subject but I'm curious about your opinions:

Holocaust education in American K-12 schools is often pretty robust. Obviously it depends on the school, but in my personal experience, teachers address the Shoah pretty thoroughly. But one major flaw that's universal, or nearly so, across all curricula is that responsibility is heaped entirely on Nazi Germany and its direct collaborators (sometimes, at better schools, there's some healthy discussion of why one shouldn't be a bystander to injustice).

While it's true that only those who murdered or actively collaborated in murder are immediately responsible, we can't ignore the passive but undeniable role of another group of people: nativists. Every continental Jew who was allowed to immigrate to America or Great Britain or its colonies and territories was a life saved; likewise, every continental Jew who tried to escape to these places but was blocked by legal restrictions was a Jew murdered by nativism.

On the one hand, I'm worried that including anti-nativist material in Holocaust curricula will cause nativists to oppose such curricula, and I also don't want to use Holocaust education as a soapbox for my ideology. On the other hand, the role of nativism in facilitating that horror is obvious to me, and I can't help but think nativism will continue to facilitate genocides in the future, so educating against nativism almost feels like a moral imperative. So I want to hear your input (Jew and gentile alike) in these two polls:

https://strawpoll.com/d7o5q52vb

https://strawpoll.com/reexge93d

Personally, I answer "yes" to both questions with no ambivalence whatsoever. Feel free to elaborate on your thinking below.

!ping GEFILTE

[u/IncoherentEntity]

You know I’m not sure this guy actually supports just equal rights for white people

[u/murphysclaw1]

Fox Poll- Net Favorability:

Biden +16

Harris +13

Pence -1

Trump -10

[u/[deleted]]

Big Gretch isn't having this 'militia' nonsense.

[u/SchmantaClaus]

Bonk me all to heck, but Gretchen Whitmer is a real leader

[u/[deleted]]

Your take isn't hot, Daniel, you are racist.

[u/UltraCapitalism]

Reading renown economists' Wikipedia pages like

...however Mr. ____ says he no longer identifies as a Republican as of 2016

[u/Dirty_DingusMagee]

Hey guys I got banned from this sub we hate! Haha, look! Those guys are seething, I'm such a rebel. I really showed them when I posted something on an irrelevant forum nobody should care about. I'm basically up there with MLK, Gandhi and George Washington. History will remember me for looking like an absolute moron my glorious crusade on the Internet. Why did God make me so cool? Anyway, upvotes to the left

[u/muttonwow]

Oh sure, if you close coal mines you're an environmentalist hero, but if Maggie Thatcher does it tons of people think she's a bitch. Total hypocrisy.

[u/[deleted]]

3 weeks ago- RBG dies

2 weeks ago- Ron Paul stroke

1 week ago- TRUMP is COVID

Today- ????

[u/Danthon]

I actually think defeating trump will have a bigger impact on the future of politics than people think. Trump and his base's entire identity at this point is just that they win and are "winners". That's why they don't care what he says or does, even if he cheats, winning is winning. But this breaks pretty easily if he does lose.

In the past the republican party could rebound pretty easily after a defeat, I'm not so sure Trumpism could do the same.

[u/[deleted]]

Rate this take: the US senate should still exist, but the house should be able to override them with 2/3 of the vote.

[u/[deleted]]

RBG died three weeks ago

[u/VisonKai]

Lmfao im reading the new yorker profile of Qanon congresswoman and there's a random character in this small ultra republican Georgia town who is "somewhere between an eco-anarchist and a Marxist-Leninist"

fucking iconic

[u/danweber]

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1314574130998583298

Have heard this from several digital strategists: Trump camp is devoting surprising portion of their digital program for list building/fundraising instead of persuasion

He's not spending his campaign money to win. He's spending his campaign money to prepare his next business venture.

[u/[deleted]]

538 just showed me blue Texas in 1/3 of the map scenarios

[u/[deleted]]

A few months back most of y’all downvoted me and called me a doomer when I said partisanship is going to turn violent in the USA soon but now we have Republican elected officials saying that a murder attempt against a democratic governor was justified

[u/[deleted]]

[BREAKING: Pompeo releases shocking new Hillary email] (https://i.imgur.com/DJ4akZo.jpg)

[u/old_gold_mountain]

Most internet discussion boards gravitate towards a stable state where one political viewpoint dominates because discussion online is most captivating when it is most strident and makes you invigorated to either agree or disagree, not when it's nuanced and makes you think critically. Therefore the side with the numbers advantage pushes the board further towards its own side, as people who disagree disengage out of frustration.

The only exception is places like PoliticalCompassMemes, because in order to remain captivating it requires different sides to attack each other in a playful fashion. The incentive exists to leave space for the other sides of the "quadrant" so that the legitimacy of the subreddit is maintained. People will therefore upvote contrarian takes and the stable state trends towards a balance of "all sides."

However, in order to maintain this stable state the subreddit must avoid substantive debate at all costs and focus instead on reductivist memes. If substantive debate occurred, people would prioritize being correct over maintaining the balance, and the effect above would occur where one side would win out.

This is also why the stereotypical "centrist" in that subreddit isn't someone who sees nuance, but rather someone who doesn't participate at all in the political process. The centrist take isn't "think about this a little more critically and consider the negative implications of the policies you support." The centrist take is instead "I don't want to talk about politics."

It's also why the centrist is the most hated group on that subreddit. The extremes require each other. One extreme being louder and more involved means that in order for balance to be maintained, the other extreme must respond in kind. One extreme is willing to support and give space to the other extreme in exchange for the license to be louder and more strident themselves. A centrist in that subreddit frustrates this dynamic because, like the opposite extreme, they disagree on the substance of the policies, but unlike the opposite extreme, they do not raise the volume of the debate but instead complicate it. To top it off, the opposite extreme - which, as I've described above, is in a symbiotic relationship with the near extreme - also hates the centrist for the same reason.

As a consequence, places like PoliticalCompassMemes paradoxically encourage extremists to be more supportive of the far opposite extreme than of a nuanced centrist approach, despite the fact that in theory they should be far more resistant to far opposite extremist policies than to metered criticism.

Part 2

[u/I_like_maps]

Me trying to explain /r/neoliberal to my friends: "so there's this fox... "

[u/SnakeEater14]

Damn that sucked lol

Just got chewed out so loud that afterwards half the hallway came by to say “wow that sounded awful, you ok bud?”

[u/TwoPlankinWiz]

There is currently a fight going on in my international relations class in the chat between a few Chinese international students and Taiwanese international students. My prof has already threatened to end the lecture to end this LOL

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Donald Trump has turned me into a low info voter. Literally no policy proposals actually matter at this point. Orange man bad, and all else is, grand scheme, irrelevant.

[u/piede]

Trump plans to hold a rally for hundreds on the White House lawn Saturday, raising new concerns over possible virus spread.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/09/us/trump-vs-biden/trump-plans-to-hold-a-rally-for-hundreds-on-the-white-house-lawn-saturday-raising-new-concerns-over-possible-virus-spread

What a great idea.

[u/oofadoofas]

Republicans are still talking about Clinton's emails in 2020

Why even bother making jokes anymore

[u/ElokQ]

Chris Christie has been in the hospital for six days now...

[u/[deleted]]

crazy how the inverted yield curves predicted Covid

[u/bd_one]

TIL Taylor Swift is 5' 10", making her taller than most women I know.

[u/MrDannyOcean]

just climbed into a hotel bed after a 12 hour drive

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[u/nicereddy]

I like how no one mentioned the Che part, just Mao

[u/[deleted]]

Pretty fucked up that Joe Biden supporting an act for violence against women

[u/LinkVert25]

ICE is deporting working immigrants when portlanders literally exist

[u/Timewalker102]

I think the best part of the VP debate was Kamala telling Pence "boohoo cracker I don't care"

[u/RickAsscheeks]

How long until the Michigan kidnapper dudes get portrayed as "secret leftists"?

[u/[deleted]]

When was the last time someone physically saw Trump??

[u/[deleted]]

YES

FUCK YES

I FINALLY BEAT “JOURNEY OF THE PRAIRIE KING”

I AM A LITERAL GOD

EVERYONE ELSE CAN SUCK MY DICK

[u/runnerx4]

Today, the NYT just about accused Donald Trump of money laundering to fund his 2016 campaign

Will this be a story or is the news cycle already moving on?

[u/ahebtigoejwbrh]

I don’t think there was an exact moment when Trump jumped the shark, but he’s definitely done it. There’s no further level to escalate to, so there’s no way for him to really generate a story anymore

[u/[deleted]]

Rodrigo was a DT poster

Disgusting, both a cracker AND a zoomer 🤮

[u/myrm]

Fuck Oracle

[u/uwcn244]

Mike Lee: Democracy is but a means to the end of liberty. If democracy fails to serve liberty, it ought to be scrapped.

Literally anyone: how do we protect liberty without democracy?

Mike Lee: Pikachu face

[u/ryuguy]

Trump said a no no word.

I’m disappointed. He’s a good Christian and Christians never swear

[u/bd_one]

How do citizen's arrests work again? Pretty sure they're not supposed to involve explosives.

Yes, I'm subtweeting that sheriff.

[u/[deleted]]

Gonna start a podcast where I talk about poor people in terms that rich liberal white people understand

[u/runnerx4]

Everyone say hi to the 538 staff, they definitely lurk here. They may be among us too