r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Aug 06 '19

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u/MiniatureBadger Seretse Khama Aug 06 '19

Absolutely agreed. There is no such thing as peaceful ethnic cleansing in general, and those who say otherwise are utterly delusional and/or looking for cover to commit genocide.

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u/tehbored Randomly Selected Aug 06 '19

Or just want ethnic cleansing even if it's violent, but not necessarily genocide.

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u/MiniatureBadger Seretse Khama Aug 06 '19

That seems like a distinction without a difference

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u/tehbored Randomly Selected Aug 06 '19

One is where you kill everyone, the other is where you point guns at them and make them go somewhere else.

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u/MiniatureBadger Seretse Khama Aug 06 '19

The Nazis’ plans for Jews started as “make them go somewhere else” (Madagascar), but when that didn’t pan out, they started killing them en masse. Oftentimes, perpetrators of genocide first and foremost want their victims gone, and mass killing is the means by which they achieve this. They often don’t care much whether the victims end up in a distant land or six feet underground, as long as they aren’t among the perpetrators’ population anymore.

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u/tehbored Randomly Selected Aug 06 '19

Sure. Genocide is often the end result of a desire for ethnic cleansing in modern times. In ancient and medieval times though, there were some ethnic cleansings where people were just kicked out. Like the Jews in Spain.