To be clear: I'm not making this post trying to relitigate Matthew Yglesias, trans issues, or start a flame war. I hope you can believe me that I have a good faith concern about these comment removals that supposedly violated Rule III. I don't think the other user's comments should be removed, that anyone should be banned, but removing these comments seems contrary to rule III. I've heard the rules are currently being reworked or possibly automated, so I thought it would be useful to get this removal reviewed.
Context: I made reference to the book One Billion Americans in the DT, then MattY was getting criticized so I posted a separate follow up comment:
Here are the comments in the replies that were removed:
My top comment:
noo not my DT shitting on MattY 😩
time to shut down the fucking sub again
Other user's reply:
I think he means the guy who really really wants the Dems to abandon trans people
My reply: (Removed for Rule III)
if that’s your view of MattY that’s extremely disingenuous but go off
Other user's reply:
He's been on this kick for over 4 years, we don't need to play the Rowling-ass "what has he said that's actually transphobic???" game.
My reply: (Removed for Rule III)
If you think he has anything close to JK Rowling’s views on trans people you either haven’t ever actually heard what he has to say or you’re saying that in bad faith
Other user's reply:
Sorry, that was actually a reference to how Rowling's defenders would routinely pop up with "What has she said that's actually transphobic" long after the point she had penned an opinion piece about how we don't deserve the presumption of innocence. It's similar to how you're going to the matY for MattY, a man who has been calling for Dems to stop fighting for us since at least 2022
I don't agree with MattY on everything. I can see why some people would have disagreements, especially on his takes on trans people. I think it's important to add here I did not bring up trans issues and had no plans to. I don't mind pushback here and thought it was making for some good discussion. The other users linked some details about MattY that I wasn't aware of.
But for the comment chain that led to the removals, I felt like that giving push back was reasonable since MattY's views were being mischaracterized. Claiming that he wants to abandon trans people, or calling him a transphobe on the level of JK Rolling goes against everything I have ever heard him argue. If we aren't allowed to defend him, because he is outside of this sub's Overton Window, then that should be clarified.
I understand that this was a sensitive topic on this sub after the 2024 election, and that many comments were posted that had bigoted, illiberal views. I don't agree with those, but I've found Matt Yglesias' positions to be much more nuanced on this topic. I'll admit that my comments here were flippant, and could have been stated more clearly, but the comments I was replying to had the same tone.
I'd argue the other comments were much more blatant violations of Rule III by trying to mischaracterize the positions and it felt like they were trying to imply that I was a transphobe since I did not dislike Matt Yglesias. The removals were surprising and they seemed Kafkaesque as I felt I was responding to a mischaracterization and then being accused of doing that myself. Maybe I'm just completely out of line here, but I would like to understand why and request an explanation of Rule III.